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[00:32:42] xa4a: про шифрование встроенное: In [1]: 'asd'.encode('base64')
Out[1]: 'YXNk\n'

In [2]: 'asd'.encode('rot13')
Out[2]: 'nfq'

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[06:09:27] _lorien: mr,oduvan, используй опцию touch-reload в конфиге сайта
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[07:24:44] _lorien: The script is self-documented being the simple shell script. можно так сказать?
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[10:17:42] wiz_: не, sounds unusual and broken
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[11:42:49] wiz_: http://svn.colorstudy.com/home/ianb/recipes/
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[11:50:29] _lorien: wiz_: then please could you suggest something better
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[11:59:10] wiz_: а как сама мысля звучит по-русски?
[11:59:36] wiz_: алсо, could you please suggest something better then
[12:00:12] wiz_: может и нет, но от такого построения у меня GN-триггер не срабатывает (ж
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[13:34:58] Makc: посоветуйте IDE с возможностью создания UI в нем
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[13:41:04] cutwater: Makc: как бы тебе объяснить всю глупость твоего вопроса
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[13:41:13] cutwater: Makc: ступайте на Delphi, сер.
[13:41:29] Makc: хех
[13:42:04] Makc: значит придется работать в связке текстовой редактор + редакто форм?
[13:42:17] xa4a: да
[13:42:25] Makc: ясненько
[13:42:53] xa4a: к сожалению, не придумали ещё полноценного UI конструктора
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[13:43:05] xa4a: интегрированного с питоном
[13:43:14] Makc: я видел Visual Python IDE, но то ужас
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[13:43:42] Makc: вы наверное сами знаете о нем
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[13:45:02] cutwater: да и вряд ли придумают
[13:45:07] cutwater: ибо тулкитов великое множество
[13:45:10] cutwater: да и незачем
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[13:46:59] Makc: хм... значит для редактора я, пожалуй, буду использовать свой любимый SciTE.
а вот в чем создавать формы - пойду читать википедию... какие у меня варианты?
[13:47:12] Makc: Qt, tk я знаю, что еще посмотреть?
[13:47:32] cutwater: Qt тебе хватит
[13:47:40] cutwater: Gtk, wxWidgets есть еще
[13:48:06] Makc: ок, спасибо
[13:48:36] Makc: ого, и правда, мне его хватит
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[13:49:15] xa4a: qt designer/ qt creator
[13:49:30] Makc: разница?
[13:51:04] cutwater: эм... Qt Creator то зачем
[13:51:13] cutwater: Makc: никакой
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[13:51:24] cutwater: Qt Creator это IDE для С++ с интегрированным designer
[13:51:49] Makc: ясненько
[13:52:44] Makc: интересно, поищу-ка я qt для простого С т.к. в отличии от питона, я его более-мение знаю
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[13:54:08] cutwater: Makc: для С++ ты хотел сказать
[13:54:15] cutwater: Qt это С++ библиотека, не С
[13:55:49] Makc: эм... как бы сказать. я пару лет назад ходил на занятия по сишке. писал на Borland C 3.1
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[13:56:15] Makc: было бы неплохо если бы можно было связать C с qt
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[13:58:09] Makc: The primary application is written in C. I'd like to extend the application by adding a graphical window (with Qt) to simulate a VGA/Keboard/Mouse console, but leaving the core C program intact.

I would need to abe able to create a Qt window from my C code, and display the graphics to it from the C code, and have it deliver events (keyboard, mouse) back to the C code.
[13:58:14] Makc: я вот это хотел сказать)
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[13:58:49] cutwater: Borland C 3.1.... вопросов больше не имеют
[13:59:23] Makc: в школе обучали, чего ты хотел
[14:00:28] Makc: в общем, оно и верно. c++ компилятор спокойно обрабатывает сишный код
[14:00:43] cutwater: не всегда
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[14:01:19] xa4a: Makc: ты хочешь чего-то не то, что тебе надо, а наоборот. тебе надо программа на С++/Python с интерфейсом на QT, которая будет дёргать твою программу на С
[14:01:26] xa4a: или библиотеку лучше
[14:01:33] Makc: нет-нет
[14:01:38] xa4a: нет, да
[14:01:41] cutwater: таки да
[14:01:53] Makc: C+Qt или Python+Qt
[14:01:59] Makc: но никак не C+Python
[14:02:05] xa4a: С+Qt не бывает
[14:02:21] xa4a: (я надеюсь)
[14:02:26] xa4a: !g c qt -c++
[14:02:35] Makc: эм... я тут на форуме одном читаю, не повертшь что там пишут
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[14:03:00] xa4a: что?
[14:03:19] xa4a: (это интернет. даже на заборах не пишут такое, как на форумах)
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[14:04:04] cutwater: xD
[14:04:21] cutwater: товарищ просто сам не знает чего хочет
[14:04:30] Makc: угу)
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[15:12:41] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st is now dnd
[15:12:54] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Привет вам, паrни!
[15:13:36] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Кто знает, как проверить, является ли переменная экземпляром класса?
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[15:13:58] Typhon: !pydoc isinstance
[15:14:04] Typhon: чаще всего, это плохая идея, btw
[15:15:26] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Хм...
[15:16:26] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Жаль, что нельзя сделать что-то вроде
if type(var) == 'int':
делать то-то
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[15:16:40] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Тогда проблем было бы гораздо меня.
[15:16:43] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: меньше *
[15:17:35] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Typhon: Я что-то не понял, что нужно в аргумент classinfo класть?
[15:17:47] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: isinstance(object, classinfo)
[15:18:33] Typhon: isinstance(3, int). ещё есть issubclass. type(3) is int тоже можно, но ты же хочешь проверить ещё и подклассы? ;-)
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[15:18:57] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Нет, подклассы проверять не нужно.
[15:20:37] Typhon: class myint(int):
pass
--- он что, по-твоему, не должен пройти проверку?
[15:20:42] Typhon: по какой такой причине?
[15:20:47] Typhon: олсо, duck-typing.
[15:20:54] Typhon: олсо, Лисков.
[15:20:59] Typhon: олсо, eafp
[15:21:02] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: Typhon: Спасибо, я понял, как использовать isinstance.
[15:21:23] AgentPomidorka 2.1.3st: До скорого и удачи.
[15:21:24] Typhon: да, правильно использовать isinstance -- это не использовать isinstance %)
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[15:59:36] xa4a: Typhon: правильно ловить AttributeError в самых непредсказуемых местах?
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[16:03:58] Typhon: юниттесты это выловят. а если ты изинстансом проверишь, то что ты будешь делать? ошибка то уже есть где-то раньше, где тебе передали не то, что надо. трейс в атррибутеррор / typeerror покажет, кто не прав.
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[20:21:46] denplis: class TestModel(models.Model):
test_id = models.IntegerField(primary_key=True)
date = models.DateField(primary_key=True)

такое вообще может работать?
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[20:33:21] gigimon: джанга умеет несколько pk?
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[20:40:21] xa4a: но зачем?
[20:41:26] denplis: это не мой код
[20:41:35] denplis: вот я и хочу узнать, что это такое
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[21:19:11] Tony: denplis, сделай manage.py sql да посмотри как оно схему сделает
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[21:26:53] xa4a: denplis: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/373
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[21:27:11] xa4a: и собсно https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/MultipleColumnPrimaryKeys
[21:27:25] xa4a: хотя в схему пишет двум колонкам primary key
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[21:31:19] denplis: то есть, автоматическая генерация таблиц не работает но джанга понимает, как с такой моделью работать?
[21:31:47] denplis: а, вижу
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[21:32:32] xa4a: похоже, наоборот
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[21:34:14] denplis: CREATE TABLE `test_table` (
`test_id` integer NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY,
`date` date NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY,

а должно
PRIMARY KEY (`test_id`,`date`)
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[21:34:39] xa4a: а такое как выдало - база не схавает?
[21:36:32] denplis: первое нет, второе да
[21:37:00] denplis: первое, это просто multiple pk
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[21:37:13] denplis: ну mysql точно такое не поддерживает
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[21:39:09] Tony: denplis, по-моему поддерживал как раз mysql такое
[21:39:24] Tony: denplis, REPLACE INTO по-моему как раз только с primary keys и работает.
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[21:39:57] denplis: error: Multiple primary key defined
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