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[13:32:34] john_16: сеня случилсоь интересное явление, в процессе разработки на Джанге заставил спикер системника кричать истерично о_О причем так как я никогда еще не слышал, не периодично, хаотично даже как то.
вроде как на сделал print HttpRequest с mimetype='image/png'
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[13:35:19] xa4a: это особенность шела, думаю
[13:35:28] xa4a: аэ.
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[13:39:12] nott: john запрети загрузку модулей писиспикера и забудь про эту проблему.
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[13:44:42] webninja: добрый день, джентльмены
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[13:45:33] webninja: обдумываю одну штуку, возник вопрос. реально ли запрашивая страницу получить в ответ n килобайт, заместо всего документа?
[13:46:48] mishok13: эм, на стороне сервера что-ли?
[13:46:54] webninja: нет клиента
[13:46:57] john_16: тxa4a наверянка шел получал бинарные данные и ругался
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[13:48:19] mishok13: webninja, клиент -- питон?
[13:48:24] webninja: да
[13:48:42] mishok13: httplib небось какой-нибудь?
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[13:48:54] webninja: канешно. мне нужно считать N страниц и проверить тайтл например, причем это N может быть достаточно большим
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[13:49:11] webninja: я еще не далал ) думаю чем это реализовать можно
[13:50:00] webninja: ну и это N нужно будет пробегать переодически еще. я так посчитал выходит многовато по траффику, а то что мне нужно находится в начале страницы.
[13:50:01] mishok13: HTTPResponse.read(bytes)
[13:50:10] mishok13: как бы, всё под рукой
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[13:50:20] webninja: ага, буду курить. спасиб
[13:50:27] webninja: а твистед тоже значит умеет так?
[13:50:59] Sevenov: о_О
[13:51:06] Sevenov: вебниндзя меня умиляет.
[13:52:17] webninja: хех
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[13:53:43] webninja: слезу пустишь от умиления?
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[13:54:30] webninja: я же не про-девелопер ) так хобби. пишу разные штуки for fun.
[13:55:02] mishok13: конечно умеет
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[13:55:21] mishok13: и гевент умеет, это ж не rocket science
[13:56:04] xa4a: только это не значит, что остальное качаться не будет
[13:56:10] xa4a: скачается себе кусок, отложится в буфер...
[13:56:15] webninja: вот как раз хотел спросить
[13:56:46] mishok13: ну, если очень хочется, можно взять сокет через fileno и дальше пилячить самостоятельно
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[13:58:08] mishok13: но на самом деле, судя по коду, там ничего в буфер не ложится напрямую
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[13:59:24] xa4a: ОС кладёт
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[13:59:36] mishok13: ну это ты никак не проконтролируешь же
[13:59:42] mishok13: попроще будь :)
[14:00:08] xa4a: теоретически, если продолжить идею с сокетовыми файлдескрипторами, то можно попробовать регулировать MSS или как оно там
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[14:00:23] xa4a: но в данном случае это не поможет)
[14:00:30] xa4a: *не рационально
[14:01:15] webninja: блин =(
[14:01:31] mishok13: webninja, чего?
[14:01:43] mishok13: пользуйся .read(bytes) и не еби себе мозг
[14:02:06] webninja: ну да наверное. посмотрю что как
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[14:04:26] webninja: на стэковерфлоу пишут using curl, there is -r, 0-499 specifies the first 500 bytes. Seems solve the problem.
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[14:05:30] webninja: Make a socket connection. Read the bytes you want. Close, and you're done. и вот так
[14:05:37] Sevenov: > [01:56:10 PM] mishok13: ну это ты никак не проконтролируешь же

Не, ну если http/1.1 и Transfer-Encoding: chunked, то вполне )
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[14:08:39] mishok13: как же вы любите усложнять
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[14:09:01] webninja: сокеты вроде не кажутся мне слишком сложными
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[14:11:13] Typhon: тебе нужны итераты
[14:11:17] Typhon: короче, пишешь монаду ИО
[14:11:21] Typhon: и поверх итераты
[14:11:28] Typhon: поверх итерата — енумератии
[14:11:41] Typhon: http://okmij.org/ftp/Streams.html
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[14:12:42] rahs: Привет всем
[14:13:31] rahs: есть теоретический вопрос. вот статистика нджинкса:
Active connections: 180
server accepts handled requests
754769 754769 1558022
Reading: 11 Writing: 2 Waiting: 167

Это нормально?
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[14:28:18] gigimon: rahs: что именно
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[14:29:03] rahs: gigimon: большое количество ожидающих запросов
[14:29:22] gigimon: бэкенд наверно стоит попинать
[14:30:23] rahs: пока хотелось бы понять, как правильно читать эту статистику
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[14:35:07] rahs: бэкенд - джанга, запущенная через django-cpserver
нджинкса 10 воркеров, cpserver - threads=10 request_queue_size=15
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[14:36:07] Trec: как проверить на True значение context['ххх'] ?
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[14:37:25] Trec: если оно пустое то выдаёт [], но ни с чем не получается сравнить '', None, False
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[14:39:49] Trec: if context['ххх']:
pass
else:
print "a-a-a-eeeee"
будет значениев в context['ххх'] или нет, всегад идёт на pass
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[15:15:35] Trec: выход нашолся bool(context['xxx']) даёт ответ пустое или нет значение. Всем спасибо за бурное обсуждение.
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[15:20:44] slav0nic: кто с формсетами работал? как-то можно прокинуть error_class для форм в формсете?
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[17:43:07] cutwater: у меня есть небольшой глупый вопрос
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[17:43:26] cutwater: есть ли готовое решение для того чтобы конвертануть format string в регулярку
[17:43:54] Darth Лис: cutwater: интерполяция
[17:44:14] cutwater: чочо?
[17:44:21] cutwater: Darth Лис: нет ну я как бы знаю что это такое.
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[17:44:51] cutwater: свой велосипед уже написан
[17:45:17] Darth Лис: r'<?Pfuckingshit>\d-%s' % 'part of regex'
вот те и рега
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[20:33:57] _lorien: сегодня дорвался до adobe lightroom и пару фоточек оформил :) http://vk.com/album19528505_136461440
[20:34:11] _lorien: на кит снимал 18-55
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[20:35:15] Darth Лис: _lorien: выложил бы ты их на нормальном сервисе предназначенном для фото
[20:35:51] denplis: у кого-нибудь есть примеры, как замокать urllib2.urlopen респонс
[20:35:53] _lorien: Darth Лис: да я не особо по фоткам фанатею, я потом удаляю всё, так просто, удовольствие сиюминутное
[20:36:24] _lorien: на фотосервисе люди незнакомые, мне нравится, что во вконтакте видят мои знакомые
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[20:43:03] denplis: уже не нужно
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[20:44:35] _lorien: denplis: поделись :)
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[20:45:28] denplis: просто я не понимал, как оно работает. Теперь вроде понял
[20:46:19] _lorien: ты просто заманкипатчил urlopen функцию?
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[20:47:10] denplis: пока еще нет, но все идет к этому
[20:47:20] denplis: @patch('urllib2.urlopen', urlopen_mock)

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[20:48:05] _lorien: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/295438/how-can-one-mock-stub-python-module-like-urllib
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[20:48:38] _lorien: там какая-то хитрая либа упоминается: http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/mock/
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[20:57:55] amevol: Добрый вечер всем! Помогите, пожалуйста, с такой проблемкой:

import feedparser
feed = feedparser.parse('http://www.fcdnipro.ua/ru/news/rss/')
print feed.entries[0].encode('iso-8859-2')

на локальной машине с python2.7 выдает все как нужно: строку «Вижу потенциальных игроков основы»
на vps с 2.6.4 такое:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "/usr/lib64/python2.6/encodings/iso8859_2.py", line 12, in encode
return codecs.charmap_encode(input,errors,encoding_table)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character u'\u2019' in position 3: character maps to <undefined>
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[21:00:02] amevol: feed.entries[0].title отличаются:

u'\xc2\u0164\u0110\x92\u0110\xb8\u0110\u015b\u0143\x83 \u0110\u017c\u0110\u017e\u0143\x82\u0110\u013e\u0110\u02dd\u0143\x86\u0110\xb8\u0110\xb0\u0110\u0165\u0143\x8c\u0110\u02dd\u0143\x8b\u0143\x85 \u0110\xb8\u0110\u0142\u0143\x80\u0110\u017e\u0110\u015f\u0110\u017e\u0110\u02db \u0110\u017e\u0143\x81\u0110\u02dd\u0110\u017e\u0110\u02db\u0143\x8b\xc2\u0165'

u'\xc2\u0164\u0110\u2019\u0110\xb8\u0110\u015b\u0143\u0192 \u0110\u017c\u0110\u017e\u0143\u201a\u0110\u013e\u0110\u02dd\u0143\u2020\u0110\xb8\u0110\xb0\u0110\u0165\u0143\u0152\u0110\u02dd\u0143\u2039\u0143\u2026 \u0110\xb8\u0110\u0142\u0143\u20ac\u0110\u017e\u0110\u015f\u0110\u017e\u0110\u02db \u0110\u017e\u0143\x81\u0110\u02dd\u0110\u017e\u0110\u02db\u0143\u2039\xc2\u0165'

соответственно
[21:00:28] amevol: выше там тоже print feed.entries[0].title.encode('iso-8859-2') , а не print feed.entries[0].encode('iso-8859-2')
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[21:06:31] _lorien: amevol: у нас не принято тонны говн вывалить в конференцию
[21:06:33] _lorien: клади код на dumpz.org
[21:06:43] _lorien: или любой пастбин любимый
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[21:08:23] amevol: дык, 3 строчки которые вначале привел, это и есть код
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[21:08:56] _lorien: ага, я понял, что то что заполнило весь экран моего жабер клиента это и есть код )
[21:09:04] _lorien: вот я и говорю, такой объём лучше класть на пастбин
[21:09:10] _lorien: а по проблеме твоей хз что сказать
[21:09:13] amevol: ясно, хорошо ;)
[21:09:28] _lorien: может на vps не стоит нужной либы
[21:09:34] _lorien: chardet стоит там?
[21:09:38] amevol: да
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[21:09:52] amevol: и определяет одинаково, что там, что там - iso-8859-2
[21:10:35] amevol: почему в одном случае x92, а во втором это \u2019 ?
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[21:11:23] _lorien: кстати в коде вроде надо feed.entries[0]['title'].encode... ['title'] забыл ты
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[21:12:01] amevol: да, я же написал ниже, что забыл
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[21:17:39] _lorien: print(feedparser.parse(data.decode('utf-8', 'ignore').encode('utf-8')).entries[0]['title'])
«Вижу потенциальных игроков основы»
вот через такую жопу у меня заработало )
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[21:18:11] _lorien: т.е. я сначла перевожу в unicode игнорируя ошибки, потом опять в utf-8 и скармливаю валидный utf-8 фидпарсеру
[21:18:28] _lorien: data - это то, что urllib загрузил с твоего урла
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[21:25:59] amevol: да, и у меня получилось; а какова логическая цепочка приведшая к подобным выводам?)
[21:26:38] _lorien: цепочка что хрен знает что там feedparser думает по поводу определения кодировки и для начала надо установить что он работает с корретным документом
[21:26:59] _lorien: ну и как бы есть теория, что урл выдаёт битый документ т.е. там он вроде как в utf-8 но есть какие-то невалидные символы
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[21:28:22] amevol: угу
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[21:28:56] _lorien: http://dumpz.org/59332/ вообще вот история моего исследования в ipython :)
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[21:32:01] amevol: ясно; благодарю!
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[21:38:59] wiz_: url.decode('utf-8', 'ignore') спасёт мир
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[21:39:42] wiz_: сделали бы его по дефолту, а то задолбали уже ошибки из-за чужого гамна в текстах
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