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[00:10:12] xa4a: никто ещё в ицфпц не решился вступить??
[00:10:16] xa4a: *?
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[00:12:03] Typhon: задание, судя по всему, прикольное
[00:12:19] Typhon: но я не решился ещё, ага %)
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[00:27:38] xa4a: я вот только начал
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[00:28:15] xa4a: собрал какой-то простенький комбинатор, который нужную константу накручивает. самому как-то лениво вообще
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[01:24:28] cutwater: xa4a: что еще за ипфц
[01:24:55] Typhon: о!
[01:25:06] Typhon: http://www.icfpcontest.org/
[01:25:18] Typhon: icfp@c.j.r. тусовочка решателей
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[02:00:26] bobry: _lorien: дай мине мембера? а то он капчу просит
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[09:49:50] wiz_: Remark: In mathematics and programming languages (as well as in our rules), one applies a function to an argument, not vice versa; that is, "applying f to x" means "f(x)", not "x(f)".
[09:49:53] wiz_: o'rly?
[09:50:13] wiz_: интересно кому эта remark могла быть адресована на сайте icfp?
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[20:58:36] cutwater: скажите мне каким наркоманом надо быть чтобы писать стилевые пакеты для LaTeX ?
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[22:33:57] bobry: cutwater: я вообще не представляю кто эти люди
[22:34:06] bobry: пока диплом делал сто раз все проклял
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[22:36:54] cutwater: bobry: я просто захотел сверстать резюме
[22:37:06] cutwater: moderncv оказался гуано из-за поддержки русского в частности
[22:37:17] cutwater: параллельно я осилил xelatex и понял какое это чудо
[22:37:57] cutwater: осталось поправить curvvita и будет можно пользовать
[22:38:30] cutwater: bobry: нет я просто не понимаю что надо читать, чтобы понимать что там написано
[22:38:50] cutwater: стилевые файлы латеха хуже лиспа
[22:39:17] bobry: я тоже не нашле адекватной документации
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[22:39:21] bobry: может не там искал
[22:39:48] cutwater: bobry: ну я понял надо для начала впитать в себя книжку кнута
[22:40:06] cutwater: а так да нормальной доки не существует в принципе
[22:40:10] bobry: про тех? попахивает тратой времени :)
[22:40:27] bobry: тех должен умереть
[22:40:30] cutwater: не... на самом деле большая часть команд таки базируется на техе, макросы и etc.
[22:40:47] cutwater: bobry: поэтому как раз таки в этой книжке описываются весьма фундаментальные вещи
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[22:40:54] cutwater: LaTeX это всего лишь макрорасширения
[22:41:01] bobry: ну да, я в курсе
[22:41:08] bobry: ты действтельно хочешь с этим познакомиться?
[22:41:17] bobry: только чтобы сверстать cv
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[22:41:32] cutwater: ну диплом я уже написал
[22:41:42] bobry: лол :)
[22:41:48] cutwater: не в латехе
[22:41:52] cutwater: так что не актуально
[22:41:59] cutwater: а так доклады / презентации
[22:42:06] cutwater: хочу познать от чего ж я отказался
[22:42:07] bobry: для презентаций там все по божески
[22:42:11] bobry: и документация даже адекватная
[22:42:29] cutwater: это да согласен
[22:43:06] bobry: только щас заметил -- куда все подевались, 11 человек?
[22:43:29] cutwater: даже не знаю
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[22:47:09] siarogak: всем доброго вечера, при попоытке записать в файл кидает ошибку код http://dumpz.org/61541/
[22:47:29] bobry: siarogak: какую?
[22:47:49] siarogak: открывает файл cp1251.py
[22:48:02] cutwater: што?
[22:48:03] bobry: на винде запускаешь?
[22:48:09] siarogak: да
[22:48:12] bobry: cutwater: да ошибка кодировки вестимо
[22:48:24] cutwater: ну я догадался. его описание настолько внятное
[22:48:55] siarogak: если не использовать decode("utf-8)" то все нормально
[22:49:06] bobry: siarogak: во первых не .decode() а .encode()
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[22:50:25] siarogak: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3964747/python-3-urlopen-vs-urlretreive
[22:50:35] siarogak: вот тут ответ был
[22:50:37] bobry: так, еще и py3?
[22:50:39] siarogak: оттуда брал
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[22:51:19] siarogak: просто я только нечал изучать еще много не знаю)
[22:51:24] cutwater: siarogak: версия питона?
[22:51:29] siarogak: 3.2
[22:51:39] bobry: cutwater: в 3.2 urlopen bytes возвращает?
[22:51:48] cutwater: я с 3.2 не работал хз
[22:51:57] bobry: я чета думал что оно unicode отдает
[22:52:04] siarogak: возвращает bytes
[22:52:26] bobry: ок, так ты и пиши bytes в файл
[22:52:33] bobry: зачем тебе их в utf то декодировать
[22:53:05] bobry: ан нет, он хочет unicode
[22:53:26] cutwater: ну так сделай decode и все
[22:53:27] bobry: тогда тебе надо делать .decode("cp1251") перед записью
[22:53:46] bobry: ну или просто .decode() ага, оно по умолчанию cp1251 на винде, надо думать
[22:53:53] siarogak: дело в том, что когда пишешь в файл , там в начале строки символ b'
[22:54:04] cutwater: и?
[22:54:06] bobry: res2=str(res)
[22:54:09] bobry: вот этого не надо
[22:54:10] cutwater: омг
[22:54:14] cutwater: действительно не надо
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[22:54:21] cutwater: siarogak: почитай про различие str и repr
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[22:54:26] bobry: .decode() возвращает строку
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[22:54:32] bobry: т.е. str
[22:54:56] bobry: все таки какая путаница в питоне с кодировками, мой бог, особенно во втором
[22:55:12] cutwater: ну не знаю... никогда во втором не мучался с кодировками
[22:55:16] cutwater: хотя нет вру
[22:55:21] siarogak: если делать print(res2)
[22:55:29] siarogak: то все нормально выводит
[22:55:43] siarogak: проблема только при записи в файл
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[22:59:14] bobry: siarogak: выложи текст ошибки то
[22:59:16] siarogak: просто хочется , чтобы при сохранении файла в итоге получался файл, аналогичны тому, как если бы в браузере открыть и нажать сохранить как
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[23:00:53] siarogak: http://dumpz.org/61543/
[23:01:30] cutwater: siarogak: укажи при открытии файла кодировку utf-8
[23:01:54] siarogak: сча попробую
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[23:04:30] siarogak: о
[23:04:33] siarogak: помогло
[23:04:37] bobry: congrats :)
[23:04:44] siarogak: спс огромное)
[23:04:59] cutwater: учитесь читать ошибки же
[23:05:13] siarogak: это да)
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