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[02:55:02] pythonics: вот, не местный, а нью-йоркский...
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[16:55:13] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[16:56:22] slav0nic: !wtf regroup
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[17:01:00] webninja: как в хг коммит отменить?
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[17:01:33] nmk: rollback
[17:01:39] nmk: webninja: ^
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[17:07:51] nmk: с roundrobin можно сделать довольно нудный рассказ для собеседования. рассказать как он работает. строчка за строчкой..
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[17:19:56] webninja: бля случайно заметил адсенс жаваскрипт и нгинкс жми сюда. стало интересно - нажал
[17:19:59] webninja: а там такие чуваки
[17:20:02] webninja: http://www.inshaker.ru/job/programmer-javascript.html
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[17:21:17] webninja: У нас все что можно сделано как MVC <http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/MVC>. Мы начали использовать этот паттерн задолго до того, как поняли, как его правильно готовить. Поэтому, на Иншейкере можно встретить множество различных способов «сделать MVC». Любая страничка на Иншейкере — это виджет, который занимает всю эту страничку и — в некоторых случаях — контролирует location.hash. Внутри этого главного виджета могут быть другие виджеты, и так далее. Большие виджеты с явным разделением данных и представления мы делаем как MVC. Остальные — как попало.
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[17:22:40] webninja: пипец какой-то гавносайт а пишут так как будто у них там целая комманда над ним работает ))
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[18:25:21] bobry: _lorien: у нас тут теперь капча permanent?
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[18:26:28] bobry: да, про inshaker я тоже читал -- эта работа явно не для меня :)
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[18:26:48] bobry: тут нужен настоящий js-джедай, который считает js "красивым" языком
[18:26:51] bobry: _lorien: ping?
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[18:27:11] _lorien: js красивый язык
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[18:27:14] _lorien: на питон похож
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[18:28:01] _lorien: bobry: я не знаю, у меня в pidgin нету интерфейса для управления правами
[18:28:35] bobry: _lorien: красивый? ты это серьезно?
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[18:29:34] _lorien: да
[18:29:40] bobry: > 1 + "2" ==> 3 -- в гробу я такие красоты видал
[18:29:55] bobry: или всякие псевдомассивы, типа arguments, которые на самом деле не массивы
[18:29:58] _lorien: ну я не настаиваю на том, чтобы ты считал его красивым )
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[18:30:14] bobry: ну, мне интересно было бы услышать аргументацию
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[18:30:24] _lorien: увы )
[18:30:33] bobry: ну хотя бы парочку :)
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[18:31:01] xa4a: !voice superbobry@gmail.com
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[18:31:03] xa4a: !voice bobry
[18:31:10] _lorien: Аргументацию чего? Как можно аргументировать красоту? Это субъективное чувство.
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[18:31:33] bobry: _lorien: в случае языка программирования его вполне можно конкретизировать
[18:31:40] bobry: спасибо xa4a :)
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[18:32:09] _lorien: bobry: это в твоё определение красоты, у меня оно видимо другое
[18:32:14] _lorien: и много других определений
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[18:32:31] bobry: ну как хочешь :)
[18:32:57] bobry: кстати, кто нибудь с ast упражнялся? хочется написать такую штуку, чтобы она по import хуку заменяла super() на super(<class_name>, self)
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[18:36:51] xa4a: bobry: это в 3 есть
[18:37:03] bobry: я знаю
[18:37:06] bobry: хочется такое же для 2
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[18:47:25] Typhon: не хочется же %)
[18:47:33] Typhon: сомнительное нововведение ^_^
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[18:51:40] xa4a: Typhon: почему? встречаются случаи, когда ты хочешь вызвать super() не как (<class_name>, self) ?
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[18:52:40] Typhon: x = super
x() -> что должно быть?
у тебя так вызов super зависит от местоположения — не нравится такое
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[18:57:15] xa4a: но зачем?
[18:57:21] xa4a: ты встречал такой код когда-то?
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[18:59:08] bobry: Typhon: ну скажем x = super в принципе можно отлавливать :)
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[19:00:54] Typhon: xa4a: не исключено, но не помню. по мне шорткат super(self) ==> super(self.class, self) — вполне ок. или методом self.super()
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[20:31:48] Tony: я не знаю почему но go этот мне чем-то напоминает php
[20:31:52] Tony: по синтаксису
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[22:40:55] NTAngel is now I'm reasearching.. cstdio library and std::iostream library...
[22:41:15] NTAngel: Всем привет, нужна помощь по Питон версии 3.2
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[22:41:33] NTAngel: Есть кто желающий поломать голову немного ? )
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[22:45:45] NTAngel: Надеюсь найдутся кто не спит ) Вобщем, есть версия питона 3.2. мне нужно работать с массивом байт, создавать его динамически в зависимости от результата предварительного расчет размера, также нужно иметь рандомный доступ, т.е. возможность data [index] = че нить и изменять его. В документации нашел mutable тип bytearray() , но я не могу его динамически менять т.к. нету метода resize() и не вижу его аналога. Что можете посоветовать?
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[23:11:16] NTAngel: Пока придумал такой изврат:
data = bytearray().zfill( myBufferLen )
for i in range( len( data ) ):
data [ i ] = 0x0
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[23:11:48] NTAngel: не нравитться потому что приходится самому занулять
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