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[13:02:44] _lorien: нашёл сайтик http://www.python-excel.org/
[13:04:13] gf: _lorien: чтоб один excell документ сформировать - надо неделю кодить..
[13:04:14] wiz_: генери шаблонами xml
[13:04:28] gf: да, это в десятки раз быстрее..
[13:04:39] gf: но "некрасиво"..
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[13:10:29] _lorien: да просто надо поговорить с работодателем о моих знаниях pyExcelerator и reportlab, вот я их и освежаю
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[13:12:29] _lorien: А зачем сразу неделю кодить? Простейший excel можно сделать за час, почитать доки, посмотреть какой там API. Если он сложный со всякими рюшечками, тогда - да.
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[13:16:06] Sevenov: Excel 97-2005 - бинарный и закрытый формат.
[13:16:12] Sevenov: xls
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[13:16:32] _lorien: спасибо, кэп
[13:16:33] Sevenov: xlsx или как там - иксемелька со спеками в тыщщу страниц.
[13:16:41] _lorien: в 4тыщи )
[13:16:45] Sevenov: Так шо юзай ком =)
[13:16:56] Sevenov: или ваще вижл бейсик
[13:17:03] Sevenov: или .нет
[13:17:03] dicos: Через опенофис попробуй генерировать
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[13:18:01] _lorien: ещё раз, я буду с заказчком говорить о моём знании pyExcelerator :) при чём тут опенфоис, .net и т.д.
[13:18:15] _lorien: Вы езё забыли про яву, там тоже есть прожект, чтобы M$ говнофайлы генерить
[13:18:31] _lorien: apache poi
[13:19:10] _lorien: к тому же, если эксель простые, то не надо никаких опенофисов, их сможет и pyExcelerator/xlwt сгенерить.
[13:19:46] wiz_: pip talkabout pyExcelerator (=
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[13:20:58] bobry-: _lorien: xlwt ничего еще
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[13:23:06] _lorien: я для примера парсю одеск людей по запросу django и щас хочу сгенерить excel и pdf
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[13:24:27] _lorien: ща ещё фоточки попробую вставить :o)
[13:25:29] _lorien: какой-то антон к из ирландии дерёт 125 баков в час
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[13:25:35] bobry: крутой пацан
[13:25:50] bobry: _lorien: ты чего будешь на djangodash ковать? или это секрет?
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[13:25:52] Sevenov: ирландский бакс как белорусский рубль.
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[13:28:52] _lorien: гавно какое-нить, как всегда
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[14:29:48] _lorien: аа, панека, bash откуда то знает, что для okular по tab надо подставлять только *.pdf файл, а для oocalc только *.xls
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[17:39:40] fiskus: поцоны, история такая
делаю POST-запрос джаваскриптом http://dumpz.org/63933/
обрабатываю фласком http://dumpz.org/63932/
почему мне возвращается 400 BAD REQUEST?
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[17:41:43] fiskus: т.е. в каком-то конкретном POST-запросе я не передаю некий параметр, и хотел бы проверить, передал я его или нет
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[17:44:38] Tony: кто может посоветовать годных забугорных регистраторов?
[17:44:40] Tony: (доменов)
[17:45:17] огыешсук: я moniker юзаю, но он недавно лежал несколько часов, теперь уже и не знаю на сколько оно годное
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[17:52:05] levsha: я godaddy использую
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[17:55:04] Tony: luckyregister.com кто юзал?
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[17:56:32] огыешсук: название несерьёзное :o)
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[17:56:53] огыешсук: Вообще, в топе сейчас вроде дедди, нсолюшенсы и моникер.
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[17:57:34] fiskus: ололо, сеошники, лучше бы с питоном мне помогли
[17:57:53] fiskus: :)
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[17:58:09] gigimon: разве у фласка просто return надо делать?
[17:58:30] gigimon: хм, да)
[17:58:46] fiskus: не надо, можно темплейты сразу отдавать, но я свел пример к самому минимальному
[17:59:46] Typhon: fiskus: не достаточно информации же
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[18:00:07] Typhon: что уходит из браузера, что приходит на сервер, что в логах фласка, что в логах фронтенд сервера, если есть
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[18:00:17] Typhon: кто отвечает бэдреквестом
[18:00:19] Typhon: где трейсбек
[18:00:25] Typhon: и т.д.
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[18:02:13] fiskus: в логах фласка:
127.0.0.1 - - [28/Jun/2011 13:49:58] "POST /upsert HTTP/1.1" 400
из браузера уходит пост-запрос, созданный джаваскриптом (а ля аякс), ответ смотрю в консоли фаербага
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[18:02:18] fiskus: трейсбека нет
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[18:04:46] fiskus: мне просто показалось, что это простой вопрос, если кто-то знаком именно с фласком
[18:04:57] fiskus: если нет, то значит буду переделывать по другому
[18:06:21] Typhon: есть мнение, что там жс бляцво какое-то, например, разные домены
[18:06:30] Typhon: или просто реквест отстойный
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[18:06:57] Typhon: если у фласка нет режима "падай, а не возвращай ошибки", то можно обмазаться кодом и брейкпойнтами
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[18:07:14] Typhon: олсо, тебе в методе if не нужен же — туда только POST итак придти может
[18:07:53] fiskus: да, наверное это в джаваскрипте проблема
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[18:08:16] fiskus: ага
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[18:08:44] fiskus: но если кто-то откроет страницу по этому адресу я бы хотел вернуть что-то, так что я потом и GET туда допишу
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[18:09:38] fiskus: фласк обычно хорошо возвращает ошибки, если сейчас я ошибку вижу только в консоли фаербага, то значит фласк нормально отработал
[18:09:40] fiskus: навере)
[18:09:45] fiskus: *наверное)
[18:09:48] fiskus: ок
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[18:11:35] Tony: огыешсук, чето у них на com домены цены пиздец
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[18:11:47] fiskus: в общем, суть такова
если отдавать аяксом ("id", "")
то request.form["id"] -- FALSE
если отдавать аяксом ("id", "FGSFDS")
то request.form["id"] -- TRUE
[18:11:55] fiskus: отсюда и буду плясать
[18:12:05] fiskus: у меня все равно пока нет задачи НЕ писать говнокод
[18:12:06] fiskus: :)
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[18:12:31] огыешсук: Tony: вроде обычные такие цены
[18:12:41] Typhon: бгг, она ж сразу должна быть, такая задача то!
[18:12:57] Tony: огыешсук, 30$ в год. даже у рюсских регистраторов по $15
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[18:13:46] огыешсук: Tony: чего-то ты не то смотришь, я там где-то 9$/y плачу.
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[18:14:08] Tony: http://www.networksolutions.com они?
[18:14:31] fiskus: Typhon: пока первый блин, потом почищу, по мере изучения)
[18:14:32] огыешсук: Tony: я про моникер. NS -- да, дорогая контора.
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[18:18:15] Tony: огыешсук, с ними договора надо заключать?
[18:18:22] Tony: огыешсук, с моникером
[18:18:26] огыешсук: нет
[18:18:39] Tony: огыешсук, а не переносил к ним никогда домен?
[18:18:43] огыешсук: переносил
[18:18:51] Tony: огыешсук, проблем не возникло?
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[18:18:58] огыешсук: не возникло
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[18:19:05] Tony: круто. спасибо.
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[18:23:29] Tony: не могу у них найти transfer pricing.
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[18:27:37] Tony: огыешсук, у них трансфер просто платный или ты продляешь автоматически на сумму трансфера?
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[18:28:32] огыешсук: продляешь
[18:29:04] огыешсук: стоит как продление на год, ну и домен обновляется как оплаченный на год
[18:29:16] Tony: годная конторка должна быть
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[18:42:27] Treq: как-нибудь можно проверить, активен/есть ли вообще pid в системе?
[18:43:13] Tony: ps ax | grep pid
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[18:43:16] slav0nic: авжеж
[18:43:26] Tony: pgrep
[18:43:29] slav0nic: в дебиан есть для баша плюшки
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[18:44:50] _lorien: at least on linux you can test this:
os.path.exists("/proc/%d" % mypid)
If you want to be sure that the pid is not reused, you
can look at: /proc/PID/cmdline
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[18:46:03] slav0nic: . /lib/lsb/init-functions
pidofproc
думаю кошерней) правда это для init скриптов в дебиане юзается
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[18:47:57] slav0nic: тамже есть status_of_proc
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[18:49:08] slav0nic: в debian sid таки добавили uwsgi
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[18:53:02] Treq: а в freebsd тоже есть /proc?
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[18:57:37] Tony: можно сделать. но зачем?
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[19:04:38] fiskus: сурс код странички ок http://diveinto.python.ru
[19:05:31] Treq: http://pastebin.com/nZxjneBu так лучше?
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[19:41:11] Tony: moniker - охуительная вещь. особенно учитывая что prepay можно сделать минимум на сумму $50
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[19:45:44] огыешсук: Tony: только зачем? Я сделал на 100$ и думаю, что как-нибудь надо сделать на 200 или того больше.
[19:46:54] Tony: у меня домены: .net .com еще хочу .fm заказать
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[19:47:17] Tony: получается что надо закинуть $150 минимум. хотя 40 пусть на продление болтаются.
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[20:02:04] огыешсук: Можно вообще ничего не закидывать. Он умеет с карточки чаржить по необходимости.
[20:02:17] огыешсук: Просто с закидыванием спокойнее.
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[20:03:48] levsha: /me никуда ничего не закидывает. godaddy и hetzner прямо с карточки чаржат, всякие интернет магазины идут в paypal и он тоже сразу с карточки чаржит
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[20:12:52] огыешсук: levsha: у тебя банк автоматически пополняет счет карточки если там вдруг мало денег осталось?
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[20:14:57] levsha: огыешсук: нет, надо самому закидывать. А moniker автоматически тебе деньги зачисляет, или их всё-таки надо откуда-то взять?
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[20:16:10] огыешсук: levsha: у меня просто напоминалка в гуглокалендаре. Раз в год закинуть очередную сотню-другую на счет моникера и не париться.
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[20:17:00] levsha: что мешате раз в год закинуть сотню-другую на карточку?
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[20:17:51] Typhon: что вообще за беспредел, без спроса ходить и снимать С МОЕЙ КАРТОЧКИ бабло? а как же 3d secure и прочее? %)
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[20:18:45] levsha: paypal и godaddy не ходят без просу, ходят когда я нажимаю checkout
[20:19:20] Typhon: а смс?
[20:19:31] levsha: но вообще с какого-то там moniker можно ходить и без просу снимать деньги, а с карточки нельзя?
[20:19:34] огыешсук: levsha: карточка юзается постоянно. Сумма на оной постоянно же и скачет с околонуля до нескольких сотен или тысяч. Неприятно будет если моникер или ещё кто захотят почаржить рекуррентный платёж и обломаются потому, что я только что купил ноутбук за пару тысяч и на карточке нема денег.
[20:19:34] levsha: что смс?
[20:19:42] Typhon: ну смс тебе приходит, от твоего банка?
[20:19:52] levsha: да, приходит
[20:21:17] Typhon: и куда ты вбиваешь одноразовый пароль
[20:21:20] Typhon: который в этом смс ?
[20:21:36] огыешсук: вы о разных SMS говорите
[20:21:45] levsha: огыешсук: ну сдерживай себя и держи всегда плюс сотню на карточки. В чём счастье бесплатно кредитовать кого-то, даже на сотню?
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[20:22:01] levsha: Typhon: какой одноразовый пароль в этом смс и зачем он мне?
[20:22:10] _lorien: а, теперь ясно почему какая-то заблудшая душа зашла на форум pep8.ru и вопрос задали, видимо, из-за того, что python.su в дауне
[20:22:25] огыешсук: levsha: счастье в спокойствии, не нужно себя сдерживать -- это хорошо
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[20:22:56] огыешсук: levsha: Typhon вы sms-нотификации с 3d-secure запутали
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[20:23:24] levsha: /me не видел еще ни разу 3d-secure в действии
[20:23:38] levsha: у меня просто через интернет-банкинг лимит крутится и все дела
[20:24:03] Typhon: нет, я не про смс нотификации
[20:24:13] Typhon: нормальные мерчанты редиректят тебя на сайт твоего банка
[20:24:16] Typhon: который отправляет тебе смс
[20:24:21] Typhon: который ты вводишь
[20:24:25] Typhon: и авторизуешь платёж
[20:24:29] огыешсук: Typhon: 3d-secure разве что в первую транзакцию будет. Остальные платежи просто тыкают пальцем в Первую и говорят банку "видишь, меня уже авторизовывали раз, занафига нам заморачиваться с этой фигнёю повторно?". И банк пускает его без дополнительной верификации.
[20:24:29] levsha: вот вот. Говорю же, ниразу не видел такого в действии
[20:24:41] Typhon: очень зря
[20:24:58] Typhon: у меня альфа и я без 3д секуре я помню только одного говнюка, кажется %)
[20:25:04] levsha: ну так я то при чем зря или не зря? Что я могу сделать если на практике этого никто не реализовывает?
[20:25:14] Typhon: реализовывают
[20:25:15] огыешсук: Typhon: у меня альфа и я ни одного 3d-secure пока не видал
[20:25:34] Typhon: огыешсук: ржд, например, из того, что недавно оплачивал
[20:25:50] levsha: у меня крутилки на интернет-банкинге, и генератор одноразоывых паролей на брелке. Работает всюду и устраивает полностью
[20:25:50] огыешсук: а с карточки я покупаю очень много всякого на амазонах, хостингах, доменах и прочих пайпалах
[20:26:10] altego is now --
[20:26:15] огыешсук: а вот русскими сервисами не пользовался, да
[20:26:25] Typhon: значит они геи, что ещё сказать, для таких приходится одноразовые карточки выпускать ^_^
[20:26:27] огыешсук: Typhon: а ты простокартой платишь, или специальной виртуальной?
[20:26:55] levsha: да да, весь мир геи, одна ржд хорошие
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[20:27:02] Typhon: не только ржд же
[20:27:10] Typhon: но и в этом смысле они лучше, да, чем те геи
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[20:27:18] Typhon: огыешсук: когда как
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[20:27:45] огыешсук: есть подозрение, что эта ваша 3d-secure для полноценной виртуальной карты отключена банком дабы не морочить головы клиентам
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[20:28:09] Typhon: огыешсук: в принципе, у меня итак два счёта, активный и типасейфовый, так что ничо страшного, если что, на активном немного лежит %)
[20:28:25] Typhon: возможно, я виртуальными платил, но не помню, был ли там тридэ
[20:28:31] Typhon: надо будет проверить
[20:28:58] огыешсук: Typhon: это понятно, а альфы ж есть "юбилейный" счет, где на деньги ещё 4 с чем-то процента годовых капает.
[20:29:15] огыешсук: И который быстро доступен если надо.
[20:29:37] огыешсук: Нет смысла держать большие деньги на "текущем" счету.
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[21:18:18] Tony: огыешсук, слухай. еще вопрос. у moniker свои dns серверы есть?
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[21:25:58] огыешсук: есть
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[21:33:29] b2amper: Всем привет!
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[22:30:36] Tony: http://www.hobius.com/s/1/096/bae/4e096baeb91c1b2e3f000000_org.jpg
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[23:45:54] Tony: http://ru.warnet.ws/img5/218/graf/24.png
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