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[04:38:46] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[07:37:46] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[14:35:01] Trec: Очень нестандартный вопрос:
Не встречали такого лого только большого? Чем больше тем лучше http://habrahabr.ru/pictures/00/00/04/54/45/picture_1.png
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[14:35:35] Typhon: там вектора есть
[14:35:50] Trec: Typhon: большое спасибо
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[16:23:44] kostafey: Кто-нибудь ropemacs пользует?
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[16:26:40] kostafey: ping
[16:27:02] kostafey: Странно, предыдущее сообщение не появилось.
[16:27:18] mishok13: про роупмакс?
[16:27:18] kostafey: Кто-нибудь использует ropemacs?
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[16:27:25] kostafey: Ага.
[16:27:25] mishok13: появилось-появилось
[16:27:28] Trec: всё появилось
[16:27:39] mishok13: я когда-то пользовался, сейчас убрал полностью
[16:27:40] kostafey: Значит только у меня не появилось. Ок.
[16:27:44] mishok13: не вижу надобности
[16:27:44] Trec: а теперь это спам ))
[16:27:58] kostafey: А чего так?
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[16:29:18] kostafey: mishok13: А получалось выполнить rope-run-module или ограничивались py-execute-buffer?
[16:29:22] mishok13: ну вот как-то так получилось
[16:29:58] kostafey: Не, юмор в том, что певрый вылетает с ошибкой.
[16:30:08] mishok13: rope-run-module даже не знаю что это
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[16:30:31] kostafey: А второй... ну это же только выполнить буфер.
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[16:31:29] kostafey: Вообще, можно и с ним нормально работать, но он должен-таки выполняться как импорт модуля.
[16:32:22] bobry-: товарищи, вопрос на засыпку -- есть iterable, хочется проитерировать по нему без создания списка и без цикла for; как?
[16:32:26] bobry-: т.е. чисто ради side-effectов
[16:33:05] kostafey: Генератор списка?
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[16:34:10] mishok13: iterable = iter(iterable)
while 1:
next(iterable)
[16:34:21] wiz: ну это не сильно от for отличается
[16:34:23] bobry-: хотелось бы без while тоже
[16:35:21] wiz: filter(lambda _: False, x)
[16:35:24] bobry-: mishok13: а нафига его в iter() njто оборачивать?
[16:35:46] mishok13: на всякий случай
[16:35:53] bobry-: wiz: лишний вызов функции, тоже не очень кошерно
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[16:35:56] mishok13: вон xrange ругнется в третьем питоне
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[16:36:10] mishok13: ты задачу какую-то решаешь или просто онанируешь активно?
[16:36:17] bobry-: онанирую
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[16:36:21] wiz: [_ for _ in x if 0]
[16:36:22] mishok13: а
[16:36:43] bobry-: wiz: создается лишний список
[16:36:47] wiz: пустой
[16:37:20] bobry-: хмм, ну кстати это ближе к тому что надо
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[16:38:15] mishok13: в itertools дохрена всего для процессинга
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[16:39:23] wiz: ну там только если dropwhile поможет
[16:40:35] bobry-: ну dropwhile фактически эквивалентен filter(), только он же возвращает генератор
[16:40:46] wiz: ну не совсем
[16:40:50] mishok13: чо это он эквивалентен?
[16:40:52] wiz: вернее даже совсем не
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[16:41:07] bobry-: ну йома, filter наоброт :)
[16:41:13] bobry-: неправильно я выразился
[16:41:16] mishok13: нет
[16:41:20] bobry-: почему?
[16:42:36] mishok13: фильтр -- выбросить все неподходящие элементы
дропвайл -- выбросить ведущие (первые) неподходящие элементы
[16:42:56] bobry-: да, дропвайл останавливается -- я не прав
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[16:43:15] mishok13: а просто создать пустой итератор не судьба?
[16:43:15] wiz: я бы даже сказал он не начинает
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[16:43:37] bobry-: mishok13: как это поможет?
[16:43:52] Typhon: while 1: next — самый ок вариант, всё остальное — от лукавого %)
[16:43:54] mishok13: что ты вообще пытаешься сделать?
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[16:44:22] bobry-: хочу форсировать вычисление iterable
[16:45:44] mishok13: def exhaust(iterable): for _ in iterable: pass
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[16:46:05] wiz: *flush
[16:47:12] bobry-: mishok13: ну я хотел самый извращенный способ :)
[16:47:23] bobry-: видимо стоило добавить это к формулировке
[16:47:28] mishok13: reduce!
[16:47:34] bobry-: лол
[16:47:51] mishok13: чо лол-то
[16:47:58] mishok13: самый извращенный indeed
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[16:48:37] wiz: reduce - вызов функции. не труъ
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[16:49:29] bobry-: да, пустой список наверное самый привлекательный
[16:49:31] wiz: к тому же там внутри будет лямбда
[16:49:36] mishok13: о ужас
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[16:50:51] bobry-: fabric -- клевая библиотека, convention over configuration -- научились у джанги плохому блин
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[16:51:00] bobry-: теперь им подавай fabfile.py
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[16:53:53] kostafey: Как бы по моему вопросу py-execute-import-or-reload похоже решает :)
[16:54:05] kostafey: Черт, я уже начал его руками писать :))
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[16:54:56] bobry-: kostafey: это ты ropemacs настраиваешь?
[16:55:02] kostafey: Точно!
[16:55:22] kostafey: Доводилось пользовать?
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[16:55:46] bobry-: доводилось, правда как то неудачно все
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[16:55:58] kostafey: А в чем быда загвоздка?
[16:56:22] bobry-: pymacs мистическим образом отваливался через раз
[16:56:40] kostafey: Вообще, если бы это были не единичные попытки, а хотябы комьюнити человека 3 - было бы проще.
[16:56:57] kostafey: А, да. Это бывает. Я пока не понл почему.
[16:57:34] kostafey: Перезапуск emacs решает. Но раздражает, да.
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[16:59:19] kostafey: Вообще, я прихожу к пониманию, что выполнять скрипты в емаксе - только через python-mode.
[16:59:35] kostafey: За rope остается рефакторинг и автокомплит.
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[17:24:20] nmk: Joes: я помоему уже спрашивал и не помню что ты отвечал, вы Tornadio под нагрузкой гоняете?
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[17:26:19] Joes: отвечал что не гонял
[17:26:22] Joes: :-)
[17:26:28] Joes: у меня нагрузка очень маленькая
[17:26:42] Joes: плюс, я его оптимизировать собрался: и по памяти и по количеству создаваемых объектов
[17:27:35] Joes: ну и поддержку 0.7 делать.
[17:28:01] nmk: 0.7?
[17:28:07] Joes: socket.io 0.7
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[17:28:10] Joes: там очень много изменений.
[17:28:18] nmk: а.
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[20:45:55] daemon666: вечер добрый, есть кто работал с django?
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[20:51:13] bobry-: daemon666: спрашивай сразу
[20:51:39] daemon666: ок, счас сформирую мысль
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[20:55:19] daemon666: не пойму одну простую вещь: есть главная страница в которую нужно интегрировать другие приложения, точнее вставить в нее html-код выдаваемый приложением (вызываем view-функцию приложения которая возвращает html-код).
очевидно, что при обработке урла ^$ создаем главную страницу вызовом одной функции основного приложения (или вида, в зависимости как делать) получаем готовую страничку которую отдаем браузеру
тогда у меня возникает вопрос: при обработке остальных урлов ^....$ будет вызываться уже функция приложения, которая ничего не знает про то как делать целую страницу, она умеет только свой кусок кода и на выхлопе получается только html-код приложения.
Так вот как увязать все чтобы при обработке различных урлов, у меня рисовалась целая страница, но с учетом различных урлов... надеюсь ясно выразился
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[21:04:50] bobry-: daemon666: вьюшки не возвращают html код, который нужно "вставить", ты с какой то странной стороны заходишь
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[21:06:40] daemon666: bobry-: да, это понятно что их задача работать с шаблонами и рендеринг
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[21:08:13] guljaca: Привет всем, есть у меня файлы "script.rpy" и "script2.rpy". В общем, как можно перейти из "script.rpy" в "script2.rpy" или воспользоваться ресурсами "script2.rpy" для "script.rpy"?
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[21:11:30] guljaca: Или они параллельно исопользуются?
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[21:19:26] guljaca: Или вопрос не првильный, хотя как должен выглядеть правильный вопрос... К слову, шапкой воспользовался.
[21:19:56] Tony: http://vk.com/vefire
[21:20:03] Tony: бля. окошком ошибся
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[21:30:38] Tony: guljaca, что за rpy?
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[21:39:00] Tony: пиздец. если бы я знал раньше как на деле проседает gae
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[21:48:22] guljaca: Tony: расширение файла с скриптами
[21:48:39] Tony: guljaca, что за интерпретатор питона у тебя?
[21:49:06] guljaca: Ren'Py
[21:49:38] Tony: впервые слышу про такой. import там не работает?
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[21:52:54] Tony: посмотрел. интересная штука.
[21:52:57] Tony: но это не питон
[21:53:01] Tony: python-like разве что
[21:54:10] guljaca: Среда программирования схожа с notepad++. Python в программе в качестве расширения присутствует.
[21:54:36] Tony: ну я загшел первый экзампл посмотрел могу точно сказать это не python
[21:54:43] Tony: похоже но никак не он
[21:55:04] guljaca: Сейчас часть кода кину
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[21:57:21] guljaca: http://dumpz.org/66635/
[21:58:00] Tony: import там не работает чтоли?
[21:58:33] guljaca: import чего?
[21:58:43] Tony: ну import
[21:58:47] Tony: diveintopython ?
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[22:06:15] guljaca: Tony: кстати, можешь ли ты рассказать мне, как примерно работает код, который я прислал? Там что-то про открытие редактируемых окон. Я половину скрипта понять не могу.
[22:06:34] Tony: diveintopython
[22:06:38] Tony: половина вопросов отпадут
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[22:08:08] guljaca: Tony: ок, спасибо.
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