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[02:57:52] Miatar is now О кодинге: Программирование сегодня — это гонка разработчиков программ, стремящихся писать программы больше и с лучшей идиотоустойчивостью, и вселенной, которая пытается создавать больших и лучших идиотов. Пока вселенная побеждает.
— Rick Cook
[02:58:12] Miatar: народ есть вопрос про связку PySide и чужое приложение
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[05:54:52] neoascetic: добрый день. массивы изображений в джанго (чтобы не писать ручками и строго не определять их количество для сущности) - возможно ли это и как?
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[11:56:07] wiz: как правильно в nginx взять /my/url/(http://some.other/url/whatever) и сделать на него proxy_pass http://service.tld/?more=args&and=stuff&url=http://some.other/url/whatever ?
[11:56:54] wiz: так чтобы при этом юзеру редиректов не показывалось, а сразу отдалось с патченого урла
[11:58:22] unkier: скажите други. можно както поправить локаль силами только питончика? а то стоит локаль en_EN.UTF-8 и с ней не воспринимает русские имена в файлах, если сделать export LC_ALL=ru_RU.UTF-8 то пашет. но хотелось бы без смены системной локали это сделать както.
[11:59:00] mishok13: locale.setlocale ?
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[11:59:46] _lorien: а при чём тут русские имена? они должны в любой utf-8 локали работать
[12:00:19] _lorien: wiz location ~ /my/url(.*) { ....proxy_pass... $1 } может как-то так
[12:00:26] unkier: ну вот os.path.exists(u'\u0440\u0430\u0441\u043f\u0438\u0441\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0435_\u0432\u0435\u0447\u0435\u0440\u043d\u0438\u043a\u0438_13_\u043d\u0435\u0434\u0435\u043b\u044f.xlsx') не канает хоть убей
[12:00:39] unkier: пака ru_RU.UTF-8 не ставлю
[12:00:53] _lorien: что значит не каанает?
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[12:00:59] _lorien: False возвращает?
[12:01:10] unkier: Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/posixpath.py", line 171, in exists
st = os.stat(path)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-9: ordinal not in range(128)

[12:01:27] _lorien: так ты передавай не unicode, а utf-8
[12:01:38] _lorien: т.е. os.path.exists(u'....'.encode('utf-8'))
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[12:02:55] unkier: это внутри джанги валится на проверке файла. изначально проблема с тем что с русскими именами файлы не загружает. на локальной машине всё пашет, а залил на хостинг где en_EN.UTF-8 и там не пашет...
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[12:09:36] unkier: на setlocale реакции тоже нет
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[12:36:27] _lorien: Выставление локали это как-то криво, а если у меня мультиязычное приложение. Как сменить локаль, тебе выше мишок ответил
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[12:37:21] unkier: проверил толькочто.
[12:37:31] unkier: >>> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL,'ru_RU.UTF-8')
'ru_RU.UTF-8'
>>> locale.getlocale()
('ru_RU', 'UTF8')

[12:37:51] unkier: всёравно
os.path.exists(u'\u0440\u0430\u0441\u043f\u0438\u0441\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0435_\u0432\u0435\u0447\u0435\u0440\u043d\u0438\u043a\u0438_13_\u043d\u0435\u0434\u0435\u043b\u044f.xlsx')
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/posixpath.py", line 171, in exists
st = os.stat(path)
UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-9: ordinal not in range(128)

[12:38:57] unkier: если питона запускать уже с руской локалю то пашет...
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[12:39:43] _lorien: ну ты спросил выше как подправить локаль, тебе ответили )
[12:39:47] _lorien: вопрос исчерпан )
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[12:41:08] unkier: ок. тогда следующий вопрос. как заставить питона воспринимать русские имена файлов когда системная локаль en_EN.UTF-8 ?
[12:42:42] _lorien: Слишком абстрактный вопрос, мы не телепаты. Как ещё написать то?
[12:44:11] unkier: вот конкретно os.path.exists и файл с русским именем вываливается в ошибку. понятно обьяснил ?
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[12:44:21] _lorien: нет
[12:44:26] _lorien: http://dumpz.org/68584/ у меня ничо не вываливает
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[12:54:59] unkier: да. чото я намутил. в консоли пашет. осталось понять почему в джанге не пашет...
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[13:08:04] _lorien: может path не просто строка, а какой-то хитрый объект и он генерит ошибку в методе __unicode или __str__ или что там у него вызывается
[13:08:30] _lorien: а как по кошерному проверить, что квадратный корень числа - это целое число?
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[13:14:25] _lorien: я тут просто задачки решаю из project euler
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[13:14:56] _lorien: вот для 9-й наговнокодил http://dumpz.org/68585/
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[13:18:47] nmk: _lorien: а я erlang exercises делаю :)
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[13:42:47] _lorien: прочитал в решениях про формулу евклида для пифагоровых троек, с её помощью брутфорс в 17000 раз быстрее заработал :o)
[13:43:21] _lorien: https://bitbucket.org/lorien/euler/src/ac77866e34b0/problem9.py
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[16:12:26] kazaff: кодировкопроблемы и тут :(
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[16:16:11] kazaff: может у кого есть простенький пример открытия файлов cp1251 перекодировки utf-8 и записи всего этого в другой файл?
[16:16:19] bobry-: codecs.open?
[16:17:02] kazaff: codecs.open != open()
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[16:17:22] kazaff: ?
[16:17:46] bobry-: ну там можно указать в какой кодировке файл и прозрачно читать и писать в ней
[16:18:13] kazaff: хм, щас переговнокодим тогда
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[16:31:07] gigimon: а никто не подскажет по прокси классам в питоне?
[16:31:12] gigimon: как реализовать property proxy?
[16:31:46] cutwater: эээ в смысле?
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[16:34:53] cutwater: gigimon: почитай про дескрипторы
[16:35:03] gigimon: ну, такое ж сделать можно?)
[16:35:06] cutwater: ну да
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[16:35:09] wiz: а чем обычный property не подходит?..
[16:35:14] cutwater: я и говорю почитай про дескрипторы
[16:35:16] gigimon: wiz: задание надо сделать прокси
[16:35:19] gigimon: cutwater: ок
[16:35:27] wiz: и чем обычный не подходит?
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[16:35:47] cutwater: ну у них в универе очевидно надо написать прокси.
[16:35:47] wiz: /me не понимает задание
[16:35:58] Typhon: июль же
[16:36:00] cutwater: wiz: задания в универах - бессмысленные и беспощадные.
[16:36:09] cutwater: Typhon: черт... правда
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[16:37:30] gigimon: ну это не в универе… а задание вполне логичное, т.к. проще напистаь так, чем на сотню параметров property()
[16:38:20] cutwater: да ну
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[16:39:48] cutwater: gigimon:

self.contents = property(self.func)
[16:39:53] cutwater: ну как бы и все
[16:40:06] gigimon: ну блин
[16:40:09] gigimon: не ко мне вопрос =\
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[16:40:13] gigimon: сказали так надо
[16:40:20] cutwater: кто сказал?
[16:40:30] gigimon: начальство)
[16:40:45] cutwater: о_О
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[16:45:59] gigimon: хм, почитал на хабре 2 статьи по дескрипторам, сказано, что для классов вызываются как __getattribute__, вставил, всеравно возвращает класс, а не какое-то значение
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[16:46:26] gigimon: тип такого http://dpaste.com/572274/
[16:46:28] cutwater: gigimon: что-то ты не то читал
[16:46:40] cutwater: gigimon: __get__, __set__
[16:47:08] cutwater: http://docs.python.org/reference/datamodel.html#descriptors
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[16:48:15] gigimon: ну тоже пробовал
[16:48:21] cutwater: и?
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[16:49:11] gigimon: http://dpaste.com/572276/
[16:49:34] cutwater: gigimon: щас накидаю пример
[16:49:38] gigimon: сп
[16:49:39] gigimon: спс
[16:49:41] cutwater: блё
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[16:52:29] cutwater: ну да есть одна проблема, я гоню
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[16:54:57] bobry-: gigimon: это где на хабрах такое писали?
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[16:55:18] gigimon: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/122082/
[16:55:27] gigimon: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/python/123216/
[16:55:32] gigimon: bobry-: ^^
[16:55:39] gigimon: cutwater: такое нельзя сделать?
[16:56:09] bobry-: gigimon: ну так це про реализацию, тебе шо надо?
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[16:57:48] bobry-: так какая проблема
[16:58:00] bobry-: сделай дескриптор в __get__ которого будет вызываться testf
[16:58:48] bobry-: и self не надо будет передавать
[16:58:56] bobry-: потому что дескриптору и так передается ссылка на инстанс
[16:58:58] gigimon: в __get__ где?
[16:59:01] gigimon: в Proxy?
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[16:59:12] gigimon: или у класса A?
[16:59:30] bobry-: у Proxy
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[17:00:45] cutwater: тут штука такая что __get__ вызывается только если это проперти класса
[17:00:54] gigimon: bobry-: http://dpaste.com/572302/
[17:00:59] gigimon: угу
[17:01:08] gigimon: при A.contents он не вызывается
[17:01:49] bobry-: потому что contents надо объявлять на уровне класса
[17:02:05] bobry-: и инстанс ему не надо передавать -- выпили obj
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[17:04:14] gigimon: bobry-: а что пр оcontents?
[17:04:15] gigimon: не понял
[17:04:33] bobry-: секунду
[17:04:35] cutwater: gigimon:

class A:
contents = PropertyProxy()
[17:04:56] bobry-: ну точнее PropertyProxy(testf)
[17:05:02] cutwater: ну да
[17:05:07] gigimon: а почему так?
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[17:05:30] gigimon: ну всмысле почему тогда не выполнится PropertyProxy.__get__ если в init?
[17:06:32] bobry-: что то я непомню почему уже
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[17:07:19] cutwater: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1004168/why-does-declaring-a-descriptor-class-in-the-init-function-break-the-descript
[17:07:35] gigimon: bobry: http://dpaste.com/572309/
[17:07:57] cutwater: покажи имплементацию properyproxy же
[17:08:49] gigimon: http://dpaste.com/572311/
[17:09:07] gigimon: хотя тут я дурак
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[17:09:51] gigimon: http://dpaste.com/572313/
[17:09:52] gigimon: вот так
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[17:14:11] gigimon: нет идей? :(
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[17:20:15] bobry-: gigimon: http://paste.in.ua/2779/
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[17:20:52] gigimon: кхм...
[17:20:54] gigimon: ща попробую
[17:20:57] gigimon: bobry: спасиб
[17:21:08] bobry-: может ты чего нибудь в суперклассе делаешь не то?
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[17:22:32] gigimon: http://dpaste.com/
[17:22:36] gigimon: это весь родительский
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[17:25:27] bobry-: gigimon: промахнулся похоже
[17:26:49] gigimon: bobry-: не пашет, даже твое)
[17:26:51] gigimon: http://dpaste.com/572324/
[17:27:07] gigimon: а какой у тебя питон?
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[17:28:21] gigimon: 2.5 и 2.7 так ведут себя
[17:28:40] bobry-: 2.7 у меня
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[17:29:50] gigimon: что за фигня тогда у меня? :)
[17:30:01] bobry-: проверил на 2.6 -- работает
[17:30:02] gigimon: почему оно ведет себя так, кхм
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[17:31:25] gigimon: на 2.6 на линуксе - тоже
[17:31:38] Darth Лис: ValueError: dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required
[17:31:40] Darth Лис: шойта за хрень?!
[17:32:01] gigimon: хочет 1, получил 2
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[17:37:48] cutwater: ребят
[17:37:49] Darth Лис: gigimon: ты даже капитанишь неправильно
[17:37:55] cutwater: где найти доклад Валидация произвольных структур данных
Виктор Коцеруба
[17:37:59] cutwater: с этого DevCONF
[17:38:03] Darth Лис: хочет 2 получил 1
[17:38:24] gigimon: ну епт, ошибка ж бля понятная
[17:38:28] MAVr is now Да, я здесь.
[17:38:40] Darth Лис: gigimon: можешь её в коде воспроизвести?
[17:39:14] mishok13: >>> d = {}
>>> d.update([(1, )])
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<input>", line 1, in <module>
ValueError: dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required
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[17:39:44] gigimon: о, mishok13 есть минутка? :)
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[17:40:36] Darth Лис: да но я другим словарём апдейтил...
[17:40:54] Darth Лис: как там мог оказаться [(1, )] вообще не понимаю
[17:41:42] mishok13: вот это хороший вопрос
[17:41:49] mishok13: может тебе вовсе и не словарь попался
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[17:43:21] Darth Лис: :( судя по exception-у, да, опалась какая-то хрень
[17:43:32] Darth Лис: но как это так получилось, аще не понимаю
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[17:47:33] Typhon: cutwater: спросить у барбузы в твиттере, например
[17:47:44] cutwater: у меня нет твиттера
[17:48:26] cutwater: можно в скайпе =)
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[17:49:11] Typhon: https://github.com/barbuza/contract
[17:49:14] kazaff: если мы делаем b'\xf5\xf3\xe9'.decode('cp1251') оно из кодировки цп1251 в текущую локальную переводится?
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[17:49:41] cutwater: о круто
[17:49:44] cutwater: Typhon: гратс
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[17:51:44] slav0nic: cutwater, могу у него спросить, он вроде в сети
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[17:52:05] bobry-: cutwater: если найдешь скинешь ссылочку?
[17:52:09] cutwater: slav0nic: спасибо. Typhon уже ссылку на гитхаб дал
[17:52:19] cutwater: в принципе этого достаточно
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[17:52:44] bobry-: пропустил, сори
[17:52:48] cutwater: правда как оказалось оно не сильно отличается от того что я у себя в проекте писал
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[17:52:58] Typhon: почему не жсонсхема? %)
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[17:56:08] cutwater: как один из вариантов, не помню уже почему не понравился
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[19:23:37] Miatar is now О кодинге: Программирование сегодня — это гонка разработчиков программ, стремящихся писать программы больше и с лучшей идиотоустойчивостью, и вселенной, которая пытается создавать больших и лучших идиотов. Пока вселенная побеждает.
— Rick Cook
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[19:25:00] Miatar: народ такой вопрос - счас вставляю PySide в чужое python приложение - и работает он как то.... загадочно
[19:25:54] Miatar: в нормальному после установки всех переменных и классов нужно запускать обработчик событий(exec) или в цикле processEvent делать
[19:26:23] Miatar: но такой прикол - что даже без обоих этих вещей приложение работает, кнопки реагируют на нажатия и все остальное
[19:26:38] Miatar: посмотрел через потоки - понял что Куте поднимает отдельный поток под себя
[19:26:52] Miatar: тем не менее все действия происходят в основном потоке
[19:27:33] ds.tihonov is now дома! :)
[19:27:36] Miatar: собсно - даже незнаю чего думать....
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[23:20:45] Crabster: Нужно написать небольшой скрипт и добавить его в меню райтклика в проводнике на определенные типы файлов. Можете подсказать, какими библиотеками для этого воспользоваться?
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[23:23:24] bobry: Crabster: виндовз чтоли? не думаю что это как то оносится к питону
[23:23:41] Crabster: да
[23:24:04] Crabster: т. е. на питоне это никак не написать?
[23:24:23] Crabster: так, чтобы при райтклике по файлу там был пункт с моим скриптом
[23:24:25] bobry: ну, я так подозреваю что тебе в любом случае придется что нибудь в реестре химичить
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[23:24:51] bobry: т.е. скрипт то ты на питоне напишешь, но вот чтобы засунуть его в меню надо гуглить на тему виндовза а не питона
[23:24:57] Crabster: ок понятно
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[23:45:07] denplis: вопрос по джанге. Для дебагинга я использую ipdb, и когда что-либо меняю в коде, перегружаю ipdb. Может можно как-то подгружать измененные модули не выходя из ipdb?
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[23:59:23] bobry: denplis: без боли никак