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[00:47:59] denplis: setattr(cls, fmt.title, property(fmt.export_set, fmt.import_set)) - как такое работает?
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[00:48:45] bobry: вроде ничего такого
[00:48:54] denplis: классу будет установлен property, который будет выполнять что?
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[00:49:21] bobry: ну fmt.{export,import}_set
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[00:49:37] bobry: property же геттер и сеттер принимает
[00:50:13] denplis: это будет как class_name.property_name.{export,import}_set ?
[00:50:30] gigimon: ты читал про проперти?
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[01:13:21] denplis: теперь все стало ясно)
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[11:42:02] clicker: Здраствуйте, есть страница в кторый есть примерно такой текст
<div align="center"><!--TBegin--><a href="http://google-androids.ru/uploads/posts/2011-07/1311072817_prikreplennoe-izobrazhenie.jpg" onclick="return hs.expand(this)" ><img src="/uploads/posts/2011-07/thumbs/1311072817_prikreplennoe-izobrazhenie.jpg" /></a><!--TEnd--></div>Шутер, основанный на консольном бестселлере DICE.<br />
Позвольте гневу сражения вылиться в джунглях, на снегу и пустыне, в бою ближайшего квартала и в воздухе. Используйте для этого интуитивно понятные средства управления. Пользуйтесь всеми средствами в режиме для нескольких игроков онлайн, используя моделирование современной войны для Android.<br />
Ваше Android-устройство становится основой для игры Battlefield: BC2. Пройдите 14 миссий для одного игрока через 5 хорошо детализированных зон сражений. Собирайте данные в высокой температуре джунглей, арктическом снегу и пыли пустыни. Почувствуйте, что интенсивность близкого места сражения качает адреналин.<br />
Нанесите ущерб вражеским силам своим множеством мощного оружия и транспортных средств, таких как танк и вертолет. Обратитесь к арсеналу из 14 типов оружия - от простого ножа и гранаты до ракетного двигателя.<br />
Обратитесь к 3 различным схемам управления. Выберите схему, которая удовлетворяет вашему стилю борьбы!<br />
Примите бой с 4 игроками на специальных картах, ведь игра поддерживает мультиплеер. Пригласите друзей, чтобы они присоединились к вам в сражениях. <br>
Мне нужно собственно всё что от </div> и до <br>. Подскажите пожалуйста шаблон регулярки, все мои варианты оказываются неверными
[11:43:12] slav0nic: clicker, ну ёб, не первый же день сидишь, топик про постинг кода на дампз прочти
[11:43:41] slav0nic: и парсить хтмл через регулярки моветон
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[11:44:32] clicker: в смысле "моветон" ?
[11:44:54] Typhon: в смысле "нехуй сюда здоровые куски кода совать"
[11:45:04] slav0nic: 1 в смышле плохо
2 да
[11:46:14] mishok13: очень плохо, отвратительно, хотя бы потому что HTML -- нерегулярная структура
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[11:51:27] clicker: mishok13, допустим. Так как мне выделить текст в котором есть \n ? ([.\n]+?) не работает
[11:52:03] mishok13: в каком теге?
[11:52:03] maxim.zemlyakov is now online
[11:52:21] mishok13: и вообще, html5lib
[11:53:13] _lorien: clicker: from lxml.html import fromstring
tree = fromstring(your_html)
и понеслась!
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[11:54:14] clicker: мне нужно от </div> и до <br>
[11:54:15] clicker: http://dumpz.org/70768/
[11:54:19] clicker: djn rjl
[11:54:24] clicker: вот код
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[11:54:55] clicker: P.S: этоn парсер не на python
[11:55:41] _lorien: <div.+?<br />
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[11:56:34] clicker: _lorien, мне нужно от </div> и до <br>
[11:56:47] _lorien: ну :)
[11:56:56] clicker: составил вот такое
<div align="center">.+?<\/div>([\n|.]+?)<br>
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[11:57:48] _lorien: открой для себя re.S флаг
[11:57:57] _lorien: не знаю, как он называется в твоём языке, который ты юзаешь
[11:58:19] _lorien: он включает режим поиска, когда . соответствует также \n символу
[11:58:29] clicker: _lorien, спасибо
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[12:00:39] _lorien: в намибии щас +6, тоже мне африка... хотя это у них зима наверное такая
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[12:01:30] Typhon: она ж почти на юге + там пустыня, емнип, а там по ночам холодно %)
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[12:15:12] пашка: всем привет
[12:15:34] пашка: есть кто?
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[12:17:25] _lorien: пашка: по крайней мере ты можешь быть уверен, что тут есть ты
[12:17:44] пашка: отлично
[12:18:12] пашка: а помочь минутка найдется?
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[12:19:00] bobry-: пашка: а ты спрашивай
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[12:20:12] пашка: вот тут проблему описал http://forum.lissyara.su/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=33573 может знаете решение
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[12:22:15] пашка: проверьте у себя если не сложно
[12:23:04] _lorien: почему в логе tets.py?
[12:23:11] _lorien: а не test.py?
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[12:24:02] _lorien: os.system('ls') вообще ничего не выводит в консоль
[12:24:15] _lorien: в шелле ты видишь, потому что он так работает, печатает в консоль то, что вернул вызов функции
[12:24:28] _lorien: при запске через интерпретатор такого поведения не будет
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[12:24:48] _lorien: так что у тебя в любом случае не попадёт ничего в вывод крона из команды os.system
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[12:26:08] _lorien: хотя нет, попадает
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[12:26:44] _lorien: эта функция, видимо, сама пишет в stdout
[12:27:06] _lorien: пашка: а в чём проблема? Проведи различные тесты, комбинируй разные команды, переставляй местами и т.д. Что ты сразу на форумы то бежишь?
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[12:28:01] _lorien: строчки в python-скрипте не могут иметь приоритета, как написано, в таком порядке они и исполняются
[12:28:23] пашка: вы пробывали мой пример у себя?
[12:28:33] _lorien: неа
[12:28:54] _lorien: у меня крон ничего на майл мне не шлёт, даже не знаю, где это настраивается )
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[12:29:16] пашка: root mail alias править надо
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[12:29:51] _lorien: спасибо, не имею желания
[12:29:58] пашка: /etc/mail/aliases
[12:30:27] пашка: как мою проблему решить нет решения?
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[12:32:31] _lorien: пашка: а в чём именно твоя проблема, я в топике не увидел, чтобы ты разные варианты пробовал
[12:32:42] _lorien: т.е. такое впечатление, что ты толком не понимаешь, что делаешь
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[12:34:39] Typhon: subprocess.Popen перенаправляй вывод укуда надо и печатай куда надо
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[12:34:44] _lorien: может быть вывод скрипта кэшируется io-системой, а вывод из os.system как-то сразу пробрасывается или отдельно кэшируется
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[12:35:06] _lorien: Зачем ты это у нас спрашиваешь, проведи серию тестов и будет самому всё понятно
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[12:40:16] пашка: что там тестировать? простейший пример из пары строк и ничего не работает гугл не вкурсе. думаю попробывать на другой ос
[12:40:43] пашка: пробывал по разному результат тотже
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[12:44:19] Typhon: "ничего не работает"
[12:44:20] Typhon: бля
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[12:44:53] пашка: так как мне надо "ничего не работает"
[12:45:31] Typhon: http://mtk.mskcollege.ru/
[12:45:35] Typhon: стране нужны слесари
[12:46:29] mishok13: http://serverfault.com/questions/293217/our-security-auditor-is-an-idiot-how-do-i-give-him-the-information-he-wants
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[12:58:53] _lorien: Кому подработка нужна? Надо возиться с магазином на базе сачмо. Внутри полный пиздец. Я договаривался работать за $35/hour, но потом решил, что ну его нахуй после работы над несколькими заданиями.
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[13:00:20] mishok13: проси 135 и продолжай работать
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[13:01:30] slav0nic: ) птздеца у самого хватает
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[13:05:42] gigimon: mishok13: хороший тред))
[13:05:55] mishok13: прекрасный, да
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[13:06:18] gigimon: где таких безопасников берут - непонятно
[13:06:35] gigimon: даже в моем отстойном вузе учили, что никогда нельзя хранить пароли
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[13:12:44] _lorien: Кто-нить в курсе какая средняя часовая ставка в US у python-девелопера с нормальным опытом?
[13:12:58] _lorien: до вычета налогов, они же сами вроде налоги платят
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[13:18:00] mishok13: зависит от места проживания
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[13:19:19] _lorien: А пару примеров можно, например в NY стока, а в los angeles стока
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[13:19:56] mishok13: NY и LA это для пяти лет опыта примерно 100к в год до налогово
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[13:20:07] mishok13: что примерно ~55 баксов в час
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[13:20:48] mishok13: но я так понимаю, что это только для длительных контрактов имеет смысл считать
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[13:21:40] mishok13: для краткосрочных или там где нужна четкая специализация (медицина, налоговое законодательство, всяческая специфичиская математика), там уже можно ценник от 100 баксов и выше
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[13:22:40] nmk: а сколько налоги то?
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[13:22:56] mishok13: налоги в США платятся в зависимости от того сколько зарабатывает household
[13:22:59] mishok13: то есть, семья
[13:23:09] mishok13: и количества членов семьи
[13:23:27] mishok13: если без жены получаешь 100к в год, то на налоги 35к уйдет
[13:23:33] mishok13: то есть, 65к чистыми
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[13:23:46] nmk: ну я смотрю 28% если одному жить
[13:23:56] nmk: и 100к в год
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[13:24:35] mishok13: это федеральный налог
[13:24:40] mishok13: а еще налог штата есть
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[13:25:03] mishok13: а еще аренда дорогая
[13:25:12] mishok13: и коммуналка невьебическая может быть
[13:25:21] mishok13: но это уже от штата и иногда даже города зависит
[13:25:22] nmk: короче смысла нету
[13:25:44] mishok13: смысл есть
[13:25:49] nmk: ну, если только ради денег ехать
[13:25:50] mishok13: если туда переезжать
[13:26:04] mishok13: ой, ну только ради денег надо работать фрилансером в Индии
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[13:26:26] nmk: :)
[13:26:40] mishok13: желательно при этом работая по ночам и представляясь американским именем
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[13:28:15] _lorien: да нет, я в другом контексте спрашивал :) Что раз они платят локально 50 за long-term, 100 за short-term, то можно от этого плясать при назначении ценника при удалённой работе
[13:28:17] Сволота: и через американскую проксю
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[13:28:34] mishok13: _lorien, примерно так
[13:28:44] mishok13: но конечно легкий демпинг никто не отменял
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[13:29:42] mishok13: но опять-таки 100 баксов за ковыряние сайтика на джанге тебе никто не даст
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[13:31:22] _lorien: Да мне бы и 50 хватило ) Я щас тока-тока начинаю искать 35-40 проекты.
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[13:33:07] mishok13: мне почему-то казалось что ты уже давно к этому уровню подошел
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[13:39:41] _lorien: Нет, потому что я реально мало работаю.
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[13:40:18] _lorien: Т.е. много кода пишу просто для себя, опыт приобретается, но как бы забесплатно :)
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[14:35:01] gigimon: кто-то держит сайт на джанге через uwsgi? как сделать, чтобы traceback показывался?
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[14:55:29] klollely: _lorien: расскажешь каким образом люди на джанге зарабатывают?
[14:56:28] _lorien: да, идёшь на одеск, получаешь работу. работаешь, получаешь деньги
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[14:58:43] _lorien: если на битбакете-гитхабе будет много наработал + валятся будет резюмешка в сети, то просто будут люди сами стучаться и работу предлагать
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[14:59:29] _lorien: * наработок
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[14:59:37] klollely: _lorien: а сколько это много?
[15:00:01] _lorien: не знаю, ну например как у меня: http://bitbucket.org/lorien :)
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[15:05:22] klollely: _lorien: англ у тебя на каком уровне?
[15:05:26] _lorien: хз
[15:05:32] _lorien: на ацтойном
[15:05:41] klollely: для переговоров по работе хватает?
[15:05:53] klollely: или переводчик юзаешь
[15:06:20] _lorien: ну не на таком ацтойном ))
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[15:07:25] klollely: питон тоже лет 5 юзаешь?
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[15:07:50] _lorien: I use English in all my conversations with foreign buyers. I think they understand all I am talking about, at least, I hope on that :)
[15:08:03] _lorien: Как меня заебали такие вопросы
[15:08:05] gigimon: _lorien: ты свою аппу для oauth/openid развиваешь?
[15:08:37] _lorien: Вчера какой-то чел в скайпе допытывался, какие у меня проекты и на чём работают. Дедик он, видите ли, хочет.
[15:08:38] klollely: _lorien: привыкай))) каждый разный и думает о своем.
[15:08:58] klollely: а че дедик хотеть) взял и купил
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[15:09:10] _lorien: ну вот я тоже думаю, чо он мне мозги ебал ))
[15:09:27] _lorien: gigimon: нет ( там надо много делать всего, а и так есть django-social-auth
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[15:09:36] gigimon: :)
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[15:10:01] klollely: мы вчера с челом спорили
[15:10:02] _lorien: надо было контрибутить в django-social-auth, может так и сделаю
[15:10:05] klollely: суть была такая
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[15:10:28] klollely: мол джанго - абстракция над питоном и можно сказать это уже не питон, что думаете?
[15:10:39] _lorien: но оно как бы social, а мой django-xauth задумывался как танк - всё в одном, включая классический способо регистрации по имени пользователя и паролю.
[15:10:56] _lorien: klollely: что такое "абстракция над питоном"?
[15:11:21] _lorien: вы скорее всего словами играли
[15:11:26] _lorien: и смысла не было в вашем разговоре :D
[15:11:30] klollely: ну к примеру как реализация программы. в нее вводится уже не на питоне все и разные плюшки есть
[15:11:56] _lorien: по-моему джанга это 100% питон, посмотри в сорцы, там ты найдёшь питон, но не найдёшь руби или там php :)
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[15:12:22] klollely: программы тоже могут писать на чем-то, но это не язык программирования
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[15:13:42] _lorien: и? Можно играть в слова, но суть не поменяется, джанга написана на питоне и ты как бы встраиваешься в неё и пишешь всякие вещи, на питоне.
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[15:14:11] gigimon: klollely: из ващего разговора тогда следует, чт любая библиотека это абстракция над питоном
[15:14:19] klollely: именно так
[15:14:34] _lorien: Ну ок, называй так, если хочешь, А что дальше то? :D
[15:14:36] gigimon: пишите на чистом питоне без использования сторонних библиотек тогда)
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[15:15:02] klollely: _lorien: ну как, это понимание для себя
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[15:15:18] klollely: просто определяться в сленге тож надо
[15:15:27] gigimon: джанга - фреймворк
[15:15:34] klollely: и что?
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[15:15:41] gigimon: вот и весь сленг :D
[15:15:51] _lorien: klollely: вот именно, понимание для себя, зачем ты навязываешь его на других? У всех своё понимание.
[15:15:58] klollely: ну так расшифруй что такое фреймворк своими словами
[15:16:06] _lorien: И оно правильное, просто при попытке его рассказатЬ. поймут тебя неправильно и начнётся игра в слова.
[15:16:15] klollely: я не навязываю, я докапывался через общение
[15:16:17] gigimon: фреймворк - набор библиотек связаных между собой для помощи в создании чего-либо
[15:16:30] klollely: вроде того
[15:16:44] _lorien: питон это тоже фреймворк
[15:16:48] _lorien: у него stdlib есть
[15:16:50] gigimon: ну дык, почему тогда это абстракция и ты пишешь не на питоне?
[15:16:55] gigimon: _lorien: :D
[15:16:58] _lorien: а если взять например urllib то это тоже фреймворк
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[15:17:25] _lorien: функция print('foo: %s', 2) это тоже мини-фреймворк
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[15:17:56] klollely: gigimon: как ты и сказал, в питоне фреймворке есть свои либы. это как развитие юникс до линукса, фри и прочего
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[15:19:41] klollely: а как обстоят дела с удаленной админкой, кто знает?
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[15:20:32] klollely: я про нужность ее
[15:21:16] _lorien: что за удалённая админка?
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[15:31:00] klollely: сисадмин
[15:31:07] klollely: линуксовый
[15:31:14] klollely: allintitle: для служебного пользования site:gov.ru
[15:31:26] klollely: хороший запрос в гугле)
[15:31:36] gigimon: klollely: что за админка удаленная?
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[15:36:15] klollely: gigimon: админ я, ищу работу)) админка по ssh
[15:36:57] gigimon: а
[15:37:04] klollely: xtk jlby ecnhjkcz gjvjoybrjv gjkmpjdfntktq dbyljds[ gj crfqge
[15:37:06] gigimon: администрирование
[15:37:11] gigimon: а не админка, не путай людей
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[15:37:28] klollely: чел один устроился админом пользователей по скайпу, вроде помощника удаленного
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[15:37:58] klollely: простите, тут двойственное название)
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[15:43:19] klollely: кто нибудь debian squeeze юзает?
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[15:43:52] Lispython: python-mode-6 ставил кто уже?
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[15:44:41] klollely: короче хз почему, но на сколько знаю в ленни было не так
[15:44:43] klollely: /usr/local/lib/python2.6# ls
dist-packages site-packages
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[15:46:14] klollely: теперь dist-packages стал главнее site-packages, но зачем последний нужен я так и не понял
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[17:06:08] nmk: что-то джанга меня пугает. делаю management commands, там handle оборачиваю в @transaction.commit_on_success, жму ctrl+c, оно приспокойно это коммитит. это как?
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[17:10:02] nmk: видно я один такой.
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[17:12:52] nmk: хотя мне уже понятно откуда ноги растут. думаю, как напатчить. :)
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[17:15:53] Tony: c beanstalk кто работал?
[17:16:08] nmk: /me
[17:16:25] Tony: nmk, кинь там эксепшн посмотри закомитится или нет
[17:16:30] Tony: nmk, работал?
[17:17:02] nmk: Tony: да понятно, что не закомитися. это они context manager так написали.
[17:17:04] nmk: работал и работаю
[17:17:26] nmk: там правда у меня не много. 40-100к в минуту
[17:17:37] Tony: nmk, во. ты нужный человек. смотри я делаю bs.put('mymsg', delay=600) как мне удалить конкретно этот таск?
[17:17:46] Tony: как я понял там bury есть. правда хз как выдернуть именно этот...
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[17:19:04] nmk: щас протокол посмотрю
[17:26:01] nmk: так put же id возвращает
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[17:26:01] nmk: и грохай по этому id
[17:26:01] Tony: гм. а этот id можно кастомный задать?
[17:26:01] nmk: нет
[17:26:01] Tony: вот это хреново (
[17:26:01] nmk: так задача то какая?
[17:26:01] Tony: вообще пока более мощной очереди чем в GAE я пока нигде не видел
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[17:26:01] Tony: nmk, паблишер кидает сообщение с определенным eta допустим 600 секунд. может такое произойти что надо этот таск отрубить до окончания eta. но дело в том, что отрубание происходит на консумере, а не на паблишере. т.е паблишер этот id никак не знает.
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[17:26:01] nmk: а как консумер определяет что этот таск надо отрубить? и "паблишер этот id никак не знает" это я не понял. имелось ввиду консумер ?
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[17:26:12] Tony: да. правильно
[17:26:19] Tony: клиент закинул таск и свалил навсегда
[17:26:27] Tony: *паблишер закинул таск и свалил навсегда
[17:26:38] Tony: в gae можно указать id таска
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[17:27:54] nmk: гм. ну если не понять, что свалил, то можно в консумере делать очередь к паблишеру, спрашивать, мол живой. если тот ответил, то процессить.
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[17:29:00] nmk: я правда всё равно не понимаю как тебе id поможет
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[17:31:08] Tony: ну скажем паблишер добавляет таск и уходит сразу же это всегда так.
[17:31:58] Tony: а потом админ посылает реквест "удалить этот job"
[17:32:52] nmk: так что мешает хранить идшники джобов где-то?
[17:33:01] Tony: кстати вариант
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[17:36:21] Tony: nmk, а ты не тестировал очередь beanstalk и redis?
[17:36:35] Tony: жаль кстати нет нормального клиента под ioloop из tornado
[17:36:36] Tony: (для beanstalkd)
[17:37:06] nmk: не тестировал на производительность? нет. в redis все же несколько иначе всё.
[17:37:29] Tony: на производительность, ага. сори я наркоман сегодня.
[17:38:13] nmk: а тебе на сколько производительность то нужна? бери что удобно. и то и то быстро. я сомневаюсь что ты упрешься в очередь. :)
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[17:38:41] Tony: nmk, да нет. у меня полностью реалтаймовая аппликуха
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[17:39:02] Tony: на gae сейчас висим. но вот вот сьебываем я уже в предвкушении гемороя поддержки своих серверов (
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[17:39:04] nmk: эээ. че-т я соменваюсь. :P
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[17:39:22] nmk: http это уже не rt :)
[17:39:32] Tony: вебсокеты :)
[17:39:35] nmk: да не важно
[17:39:42] nmk: но у нас разные понятия о rt просто :)
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[17:40:17] Tony: возможно. xmpp это rt?
[17:40:27] nmk: ну, добавление и в beanstalk и в redis моментальное (если редис никто не лочит)
[17:40:30] nmk: нет, xmpp это не rt
[17:40:37] Tony: а ну тогда не rt
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[20:34:55] klollely: _lorien: смори. что это означает? (20:20:46) kodx: удачи тебе на одеске, там у них есть очень жесткие правила по контролю за работником
[20:35:25] _lorien: значит, что у человека паранойя
[20:35:34] klollely: ясно)
[20:35:53] _lorien: одеск - это просто посредник - работники находят работодателей и наоборот и потом работают
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[20:36:13] klollely: ок
[20:36:22] klollely: я понял, как наши фриланс сайты
[20:36:31] _lorien: есть один нюанс, надо ставить прогу и нажимать кнопку, когда работаешь, время считается + делаются скриншоты каждые 10 минут
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[20:37:02] _lorien: Это не обязательно, т.е. ты можешь договориться с работодателем, что не будешь делать скриншоты, но кнопку ты нажимать обязан, так считается время, потом по нему начисляются деньги.
[20:37:21] _lorien: В принципе, можно даже не нажимать кнопку, а просто записывать потом время как offline часы. Просто вбиваешь сколько времени работал.
[20:37:34] _lorien: Но я не вижу в этом смысла, мне гораздо проще нажать кнопку, удобно время само считается.
[20:37:59] _lorien: Короче работника на самом деле никто не контролирует. Со мной никто ни разу не говорил по поводу того, что там у меня наскриншотоилось
[20:38:12] _lorien: Но вообще это дисциплинирует т.е. порно я точно не смотрю, когда таймер работает
[20:38:32] _lorien: Нет, наши фраланс сайты говно по сравнению с одеском
[20:38:49] _lorien: Т.к. они не дают карту на которую капают деньги, они не предоставляют инструмент для контроля времени
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[20:38:57] _lorien: В россии нет ничего похожего на одеск.
[20:39:35] _lorien: free-lance.ru вообще ебанулся, стал просить деньги за то, что я заказчикам шлю запросы о том, что могу работать над их проектом.
[20:39:38] _lorien: дебилы, имхо
[20:39:55] _lorien: Короче отжимают деньги через жопу, да ещё и с программеров.
[20:40:11] _lorien: Надо отжимать с заказчиков, у них денег больше :)
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[20:41:38] _lorien: Минус одеска - они забирают 10% с рабодателя. если он платит тебе 20 в час, то ещё 2 он платит одеску, с каждого часа
[20:41:54] _lorien: Так что если твой рейт на одеске 27 баков, то для заказчика он будет 30
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[20:42:49] _lorien: вообще там тебе никто не мешает написать работодателю и сказать, что ты хочешь работать напрямую, без одеска :)
[20:43:05] _lorien: Но не вижу смысла для тебя, для работадетля он может быть в том, что не платить extra 10%
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[20:48:51] klollely: _lorien: спасибо большое за разъяснения
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[20:49:42] _lorien: не за что, я просто люблю писать
[20:49:49] _lorien: буквы
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[20:59:08] deepwalker: ты еще забыл сказать главное - деньги с работодателя слупят 100%
[20:59:34] deepwalker: и если он не захочет их платить, тебе правда придется доказать, что работу ты выполнял
[20:59:54] deepwalker: но это всяко лучше, чем тебе просто денег не дадут
[21:00:19] deepwalker: и вот тогда скриншоты могут помочь
[21:01:29] _lorien: ну про это я не уверен :) т.е. я не понял, что будет если я отработаю неделю и у него не окажется нужной суммы на карте
[21:02:00] _lorien: вообще там стоит мониторинг, если работодатель блокирует карту, то контракт тут же ставится на паузу, другой вопрос, что происходит если карта валидная, но там нет нужного кол-ва бабла
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[21:02:18] _lorien: Короче в любом случае, потеряется только одна неделя работы и это надо быть очень невезучим, чтобы так лохануться :)
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[21:06:44] Tony: https://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2011/07/26/scaling-django-to-a-global-audience-with-playdoh/
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[21:23:03] огыешсук: _lorien: в одеске вроде какая то хвалёная страховка. То есть они сами тебе из своих средств заплатить могут в случае неоплаты заказчиком почасовой работы.
[21:23:29] огыешсук: /me никогда там не работал, хотя на всякий случай карту и к одеску привязал
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[21:29:46] _lorien: о, не знал
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[21:31:37] _lorien: Tony: шо это, пинакс 2? )
[21:32:11] Tony: _lorien, что-то менее монструозное чем пинакс )
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[21:32:29] _lorien: да щас заценю видео, он там вроде палит аппы
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[21:43:03] slav0nic: пинакс - это "ой"
[21:43:19] slav0nic: переходящий в "ой, бля!!"
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[21:48:02] _lorien: блин, там не хватает выжимки, он стока воды пиздит
[21:48:07] _lorien: мне бы тупо список тезисов :)
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[21:48:33] _lorien: http://playdoh.readthedocs.org/en/latest/libs.html а, нашёл :)
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[21:49:20] _lorien: schematic*: Simple database migration tool. - блин, велосипеды какие-то, есть же south
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[21:50:38] _lorien: hera: Client for Zeus Traffic Manager SOAP API. зачётное имя аппы
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[21:52:53] slav0nic: zeus у меня только с ботнетами ассоциируется)
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[21:54:28] slav0nic: _lorien, де ты раньше был) я примерно такой простой мигратор дня 2 назад искал)
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[21:55:02] _lorien: а чем он от south отличается, ято я не читал доки
[21:55:13] slav0nic: хотя нет, он на джангу завящан)
[21:55:24] _lorien: они там ещё жинжу юзают
[21:55:37] _lorien: так что готовые темплейт тэги идут по пизде :)
[21:55:39] slav0nic: ну там же бааальшие нагрузки)
[21:56:13] _lorien: будь у меня большие, может тоже бы на неё свалил
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[21:56:28] _lorien: а то реально иногда бывает чо-нить оптимизируешь и всё в тыщи раз ускоряется
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[22:24:13] slav0nic: c ep.io инвайт пришёл
[22:24:20] slav0nic: никто не тыкал?
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[22:32:39] _lorien: вроде на джангодаше заставляют туда заливать аппы
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[22:36:25] slav0nic: а джангодаш будет?
[22:36:32] slav0nic: там вроде ж у организатора чёт с сыном
[22:37:35] slav0nic: уже читнул на сайте
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