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[01:35:54] deepwalker: Кому там тест на собеседование? Вопрос, что выведет - http://paste.in.ua/2845/
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[01:40:49] gigimon: хы
[01:41:00] gigimon: deepwalker: а почему он two уже ищет локально, но не видит глобально?
[01:41:38] deepwalker: а он статически определяет что она локальная, так как есть присвоение в коде
[01:41:45] deepwalker: на этапе компиляции так сказать
[01:42:11] gigimon: понятно, странное поведение
[01:42:34] deepwalker: логика есть по идее
[01:42:38] deepwalker: explicit
[01:43:01] deepwalker: хочешь изменять глобальные переменные - скажи об этом явно
[01:43:36] gigimon: через global?
[01:43:38] gigimon: или как
[01:43:38] deepwalker: хуже, когда ты хочешь изменять переменные не глобальные, а чуть более вырхнего scope
[01:43:40] deepwalker: ага
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[01:44:16] deepwalker: но в общем может оно и не надо
[01:44:28] deepwalker: я практически не нарываюсь на такие вещи
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[01:51:23] deepwalker: http://paste.in.ua/2846/ еще один - что будет в b?
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[01:54:17] gigimon: хы
[01:54:22] gigimon: ничего, он a не видит (:
[01:54:50] Tony: deepwalker, экспрешны так нельзя делать NameError будет
[01:55:07] gigimon: хотя не пойму почему, он же в 1 области видимости и объявлено
[01:57:56] deepwalker: generator expression реализован с function scope
[01:58:11] deepwalker: потому функция в генереторе не видит class scope
[01:58:19] deepwalker: потому функция в генераторе не видит class scope
[01:58:36] gigimon: о как
[01:58:45] Tony: не знал таких тонкостей
[01:58:47] deepwalker: http://docs.python.org/reference/executionmodel.html это отсюда
[01:58:57] deepwalker: да тут разработчик у нас задал вопрос про scope
[01:59:07] deepwalker: и я решил углубить знание тонкостей :)
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[01:59:09] gigimon: надо будет прочитать
[01:59:44] deepwalker: кстати в 3,0 сделали nonlocal. А я все думал - ну я же помню, что есть nonlocal :)
[01:59:50] deepwalker: но забыл что оно в тройке
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[10:37:57] zxvenom: http://paste.in.ua/2848/
[10:38:33] zxvenom: чем нормальные люди пользуются, когда им надо отправить файл через форму? (не говорите браузером)
[10:38:55] Сволота: wget-ом
[10:39:43] zxvenom: он правда умеет, не пиз...обманываешь?
[10:40:43] Сволота: /me на самом деле не пробовал отправлять через wget POST запросы
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[10:42:06] zxvenom: "Вывод: WGET не умеет работать с multipart/form-data вообще. Выход: юзать CURL. С ним эта задача решается с полпинка и заняла 5 минут."
[10:42:08] zxvenom: http://forum.sources.ru/index.php?s=fcdb2751c76fb503c0268d0a9411cac0&showtopic=254085
[10:42:22] zxvenom: тут кто-то то же самое пытался сделать
[10:43:24] zxvenom: курл я кстати ниасилил, мне проще было тот говнокод написать...
[10:43:48] Сволота: вообщето wget намного удобней чем curl, потому в таких случаях сразу берусь за него
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[10:44:45] zxvenom: угу
[10:44:51] zxvenom: (универсальный ответ)
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[11:16:41] xa4a: !g python file form upload
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[11:19:54] xa4a: о, кстати, urllib3 умеет
[11:20:02] zxvenom: BOUNDARY = '----------ThIs_Is_tHe_bouNdaRY_$'
[11:20:06] zxvenom: что-то знакомое...
[11:20:48] enchantner: это из серии ПрИфФкИ ФсЕм в ЭтОм ЧаТиге!!
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[11:22:06] gigimon: xa4a: urllib3 из 3 питона?
[11:22:14] enchantner: http://code.google.com/p/urllib3/
[11:22:42] xa4a: нет, просто либа
[11:22:47] xa4a: хорошая
[11:22:53] enchantner: лучше pycurl?
[11:23:07] xa4a: там реализовано несколько фич, недостающих в urllib2
[11:23:17] xa4a: например http connection pool
[11:23:26] xa4a: или вот multipart upload
[11:23:31] xa4a: enchantner: лучше тем, что на питоне
[11:23:41] zxvenom: с третьим питоном работает?
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[11:23:57] zxvenom: или только 2
[11:24:48] enchantner: а прокси цепляет?
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[11:31:42] xa4a: посмотри код
[11:31:59] xa4a: там полтора кб мултипарт енкоде
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[11:32:16] xa4a: http://code.google.com/p/urllib3/source/browse/urllib3/filepost.py
[11:34:25] mishok13: может это, кахэм, Requests лучше?
[11:35:19] mishok13: http://docs.python-requests.org/en/latest/api/#requests.post например
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[11:37:38] zxvenom: няшные ссылки, спасибо :3
[11:38:08] xa4a: mishok13: дока красивая, угу
[11:38:37] mishok13: да там как бы API красивое
[11:41:03] xa4a: красиво, да. надо бы не забыть о нём впредь
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[11:44:57] Typhon: авторы — кто-то из pocoo? или просто фласковская вёрстка популярна для питон проектов ?
[11:45:05] Typhon: (хотя фласковская тоже откуда-то взята, емнип)
[11:45:33] xa4a: Brought to you by Read The Docs
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[11:49:25] xa4a: http://i.imgur.com/lh45G.png справа снизу же
[11:49:58] Typhon: хм, картинка, не обратил внимание, да
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[12:59:37] nmk: за скроллер на этотм python-requests убивать надо :)
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[13:02:54] deepwalker: http://docs.python.org/reference/expressions.html#string-conversions не понял этот момент, что за string conversions такой?
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[13:03:55] Typhon: `df` == repr(df)
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[13:06:34] deepwalker: а, в тройке не работает просто
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[13:14:09] Typhon: deepwalker: https://github.com/kennethreitz/redi — ты смотрел на это, бтв?
[13:14:16] Typhon: кажется, ты искал хайлвел редис клиент
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[16:13:05] mishok13: кто из местных в prom.ua работает/работал?
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[18:21:53] gigimon: 1,2 == True or 3,4 — что выведет? :)
[18:23:12] mishok13: экспериментируешь с порядком выполнения?
[18:23:19] mishok13: и приоритетностью операторов
[18:24:28] mishok13: http://docs.python.org/reference/expressions.html#summary
[18:24:52] mishok13: так что подозреваю что 1, 3, 4
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[18:26:40] gigimon: да это я так, нашел на просторах
[18:26:54] gigimon: почему не 3,4 ?
[18:27:05] gigimon: или не 1,2
[18:27:08] gigimon: а 1 но без 2
[18:27:34] mishok13: что тебе непонятно в приоритете операторов?
[18:28:18] gigimon: а стоп, въехал
[18:28:23] Typhon: у запятушечки типа выше
[18:28:29] gigimon: это получается мы тут типа тупл делаем
[18:28:56] mishok13: сделали тупл, вычислили 2 == True, вычислили False or 3, готово
[18:28:59] gigimon: значение 1,4 не вычисляются, а между 2 и 3 вывод
[18:29:01] gigimon: угу
[18:29:11] gigimon: так въехал
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[18:30:12] mishok13: но вообще так писать нельзя и вообще за такое надо в рожу бить
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[18:33:38] xa4a: скобками в рожу!
[18:34:21] Typhon: да, за туплы без скобок можно "practical common lisp"'ом бить %)
[18:34:28] xa4a: () —> ☻
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[21:23:38] Trec: Как понять какие должны быть данные в формах, чтобы прошли валидацию?
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[21:25:59] gigimon: всмысле?
[21:26:29] Trec: форма не проходит валидацию, я не пойму почему, данные вроде корректные
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[21:45:33] xa4a: def validate(): import pdb; pdb.set_trace()
[21:46:06] Trec: именно так только и отлаживаю
[21:46:26] Trec: но как понять какое поле не верно заполнено?
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[21:55:57] xa4a: посмотреть form.errors ?
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