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[10:19:19] Paradoxx: вопрос по django, есть модель, есть несколько своих методов для модели которые выводятся в админки в поле read_only, т.е. у меня readonly_fields = ('mask', 'size', 'host_min', 'host_max') и list_display = ('description', 'subnet', 'bits', 'mask', 'size', 'host_min', 'host_max',), как переименовать эти поля в русский?
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[11:57:25] kostafey: Подскажите какую конструкцию лучше использовать в качестве символов Python?
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[11:57:52] Typhon: symb = object()
[11:57:57] Typhon: if a is symb
[11:58:12] Typhon: например, так
[11:58:18] Typhon: или строки руками интернировать ^_^
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[11:59:16] kostafey: ну... нужно что-то типа enumeration в java
[11:59:31] mishok13: зачем?
[11:59:43] kostafey: типа UADATE = 1, DELETE = 2 и т.д.
[11:59:53] Typhon: ну, дикт
[12:00:07] Typhon: со строковыми ключами
[12:00:17] Typhon: фрозендикт даже
[12:00:26] kostafey: Да, я тоже про такое думаю.
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[12:01:17] kostafey: Вот в ruby есть конструкция :symbol
[12:01:31] Paradoxx: по моему вопросу никто не подскажет?
[12:01:45] kostafey: Думал мол может тут что-то подобное есть.
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[12:02:05] Typhon: kostafey: лучше бы этой конструкции не было ^_^
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[12:03:15] kostafey: Да в руби половина конструкций избыточна, но конкретно в этой что-то полезное есть.
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[12:03:16] Paradoxx: народ
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[12:03:53] enchantner: Paradoxx: вроде бы никак... я в свое время это копал
[12:04:06] Paradoxx: печально
[12:04:19] Typhon: kostafey: меня бесит, как только начинаешь работать с сериализацией — всё ломается. был у тебя хэш с символьными ключами — сериализуешь в джсон, например, потом обратно — у тебя уже строковые.
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[12:07:04] mishok13: но это же символы, это же круто, это же как лисп!!11
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[12:07:45] Typhon: ты ничего не поинмаешь они же БЫСТРЫЕ!
[12:07:55] mishok13: пыщь пыщь
[12:07:58] Typhon: рельсовая аппликуха сможет быстрее работать
[12:08:01] Typhon: !
[12:08:06] denplis: как узнать для класса треда MyThread(Thread): есть ли у него инстансы со статусом is_alive == True?
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[12:08:55] mishok13: denplis, держать например список всех тредов и пройтись по каждому из созданных обьектов?
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[12:09:56] denplis: mishok13: как получить список всех тредов? Мне это нужно на уровне view.
[12:10:07] mishok13: что такое view?
[12:10:14] mishok13: это опять джанга какая-нибудь?
[12:10:14] denplis: django view
[12:10:18] denplis: да-да(
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[12:10:28] mishok13: /me не знает джангу и радуется жизни
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[12:20:27] dicos: Добрый день. Работает "долгоиграющий" скрипт. Результаты своей работы он помещает в базу данных. В качестве ORM использую sqlalchemy. Проблема такая: из-за длительного простоя сервер сбрасывает соединение. Как этого избежать?
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[12:21:06] Typhon: бд?
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[12:21:22] dicos: Mysql
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[12:22:39] dicos: Есть вариант посылать тупые запросы каждую секунду а-ля "SELECT 1"
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[12:23:49] Typhon: http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/dialects/mysql.html#connection-timeouts
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[12:25:35] dicos: спасибо, Typhon
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[12:26:30] dicos: Глупый вопрос: значение pool_recycle задается в секундах?
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[12:26:58] Typhon: 3600
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[12:29:22] dicos: в секундах
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[13:25:44] Paradoxx: есть таблица IP сетей, типа сеть, маска, хочу сделать волшебную кнопку "Выделить сеть", чтобы выделялась не занятая сеть, в какую сторону копать?
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[13:28:58] Typhon: я бы куда-нибудь сюда смотрел; http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3144/
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[13:29:08] Typhon: там есть имплементация
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[13:46:28] xa4a: Paradoxx: селай db-таблицу всех сетей и отметь в ней занятые
[13:46:35] xa4a: неотмеченные будут свободными
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[13:47:43] Paradoxx: тоже решение, но не очень
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[13:49:08] Paradoxx: мне нужно расписать все потенциально свободные, как мне это сделать? ведь мало указать сеть, есть еще маска
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[14:07:13] Paradoxx: тайфун я понимаю что наглею, но можешь носом ткнуть, каков конкретно алгоритм?
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[14:07:34] Paradoxx: эту либу скачал, хелп читаю, не врубаюся
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[14:09:10] Typhon: "тифон" ^_^ , я хз, какой алгоритм, либа для облегчения работы с сетями и масками. если _совсем_ маршрутизацию не сечёшь, можно на интуите почитать брошюры их ;-)
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[14:10:54] Paradoxx: сорри, тифон ). маршрутизация ни причем, и я в ней секу, интересует каков алгоритм, предположим есть список сетей вида subnets = ('192.168.1.0/24', '192.168.2.0/24'), как на основе этого списка выделить любую не занятую сеть
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[14:11:46] Paradoxx: даже посложнее subnets = ('192.168.1.0/30', '192.168.4.0/30')
[14:12:04] Paradoxx: чтобы выделилась следующая, т.е. 192.168.1.8/30
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[14:12:58] levsha: все сети одного размера? Или могут быть разные?
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[14:13:09] Paradoxx: dct hfpyst
[14:13:12] Paradoxx: все разные
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[14:13:35] Paradoxx: нужно так, я говорю маску, а он на основе списка сетей выделяет мне незанятую
[14:13:41] levsha: тогда "первая свободная" будет не самым оптимальным алгоритмом с точки зрения использования адресов
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[14:14:48] Paradoxx: subnets = ('192.168.1.0/30', '192.168.4.0/30') я говорю нужна сеть с маской 24, он мне 192.168.2.0, я говорю нужна сеть с маской 30, а он мне 192.168.1.8
[14:14:51] Paradoxx: типа так )))
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[14:16:31] levsha: в сети 192.168.1.0/24 будет занята 192.168.1.128/30 . Ты попросишь новую /30 и получишь 192.168.1.0/30 , хотя экономнее было бы взять 192.168.1.132/30
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[14:17:43] Paradoxx: если 192.168.1.0/24 то в ней 192.168.1.132/30 занята тоже, в том то и дело что код должен чухать маски
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[14:18:17] Paradoxx: и понимать что из этой сети 192.168.1.0/24 уже выделить ничего нельзя
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[14:19:14] levsha: нет, я имею ввиду что есть пул 192.168.1.0/24, из которого выделяются сети
[14:19:16] Paradoxx: есть идеи как реализовать такое?
[14:19:23] Paradoxx: я понял
[14:19:44] levsha: ну вот при выдаче "первая подходящая" будет явно неэкономный расход ресурсов
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[14:20:32] levsha: вообще на pgsql, если немного подумать и воспользоваться его функциями проверки вхождения сети в сеть, можно нарисовать запросиком
[14:21:07] Paradoxx: т.е. нужна функция которая на основе списка сетей и их масок находила в ней пустоты
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[14:22:27] levsha: выстраиваем сети по порядку, вычисляем для каждой максимальный адрес, получаем "пустоты"
[14:22:56] levsha: дальше находим первую "пустоту", которая начинается с адресса, который делится без остатка на 2^masklen
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[14:24:04] levsha: даже так: для всех сетей берем адреса max_addr+1 , из них убираем min_addr, потом берем первый, который делится без остатка на 2^masklen
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[14:24:34] levsha: а, нет, проверки на деление на 2^masklen мало. Нужно еще верхнюю границу проверить
[14:24:43] Paradoxx: какая жесть
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[14:35:49] xa4a: думаю простой вариант: хранить список пустых областей
[14:35:55] xa4a: при выделении подсети - дробить его
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[14:36:19] xa4a: при поиске месте под новую - искать самую маленькую область, в которую влезет требуемая подсеть
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[14:37:22] xa4a: в ней выделять подсеть, а в списке пустых областей заменять её на остатки до/после выделенной
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[14:38:16] xa4a: тут сложнее всего может быть склеевать пустые места при отвыделении обратно подсетей. но в sql решилось бы просто join'ом
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[14:38:39] Paradoxx: да уж
[14:38:54] Paradoxx: остается развести руками
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[14:41:00] Paradoxx: у меня в таблице примерно 270 сетей, я щас вручную буду искать где свободное место есть а где нет )
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[14:41:39] Paradoxx: тогда проще при добавлении сети проверять не пересекается ли она с уже существующими )
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[14:49:18] levsha: ну не надо список свободных областей хранить. Он элементарно вычисляется из списка доступных сетей - я выше написал
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[14:50:55] levsha: а вообще да, это будет самый простой вариант: берём полный список сетей нужного размера и убираем все, который входят в уже выданные или содержат уже выданные. На правильном sql должно вполне рализовываться
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[15:38:49] Paradoxx: кто-нибудь по модулю ipaddr может помочь?
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[15:55:26] denplis: Paradoxx: проверка вхождения сети?
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[16:05:01] Paradoxx: разобрался
[16:05:13] Paradoxx: хотя не совсем
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[16:05:51] Paradoxx: там есть метод overlaps, одну сеть с другой сравнивает не пересекается ли, как интересно ей в качестве аргумента подсунуть список
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[16:10:35] Paradoxx: цикл йопт
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[16:18:07] xa4a: levsha: полный список /30 сетей? самый простой вариант?
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[16:22:16] Paradoxx: http://pastebin.com/AAiYQHu8 накропал код на проверку пересечения, глупый вопрос, ибо не знаю, как этот код повесить на обработку события при добавлении записи в админке?
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[16:23:28] levsha: xa4a: да.
[16:23:42] xa4a: Paradoxx: пастбин не открывается..
[16:23:51] xa4a: paste.in.ua
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[16:24:08] Paradoxx: http://paste.in.ua/2868/
[16:24:30] xa4a: аэ
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[16:35:26] denplis: ммм?
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[16:35:48] Paradoxx: http://paste.in.ua/2868/ накропал код на проверку пересечения, глупый вопрос, ибо не знаю, как этот код повесить на обработку события при добавлении записи в админке?
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[16:36:14] denplis: на валидацию данных
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[16:41:49] Paradoxx: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/ref/forms/validation/ это?
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[16:42:14] denplis: да
[16:43:02] denplis: тогда ты не сможешь добавить подсеть, которая пересекается с другими
[16:44:09] Paradoxx: спасибо, ща буду пробовать
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[16:55:19] guskuskudu: драсте все такой вопрос имеем словарь у которого в значениях мб что угодно: такой же словарь (значениями которого так же может быть что угодно) или список или строка так вот из этого всего надо сделать плоский словарь, как бы это получше сделать? чего нить простого нет?
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[16:56:02] guskuskudu: *плоский словарь = словарь без вложенных элементов
[16:56:33] mishok13: встроенного ничего нету, можешь написать свою функцию
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[16:57:05] guskuskudu: mishok13: да уже второй час пишу, какой то бред получается
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[16:58:13] Typhon: { "x" : [1,2,3,3] } — что тут должно быть в результате работы функции?
[16:58:26] guskuskudu: думал мб кто то, что то делал
[16:58:34] guskuskudu: сейчас
[16:59:33] mishok13: http://paste.in.ua/2870/
[16:59:38] guskuskudu: x:1
x:2
x:3
последний ключ
[16:59:46] guskuskudu: и значение
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[17:00:18] mishok13: ты как-то неправильно обьясняешь или я чего-то не понимаю
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[17:00:38] guskuskudu: погоди минуту на твой код гляну
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[17:01:08] rolan1986: привет
[17:01:13] xa4a: res = {}; for k, v in d.items(): if isinstance(d, dict): res.update(flatten(v)) else: res[k] = v
[17:01:16] xa4a: guskuskudu: ^
[17:01:24] rolan1986: ребят, в тему вклиниться можно со своими вопросами?
[17:01:37] xa4a: rolan1986: попробуй
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[17:01:43] rolan1986: qt-шники есть? )
[17:01:56] cutwater: в qt@ есть
[17:02:00] xa4a: это соц. опрос?
[17:02:05] cutwater: но ты лучше задавай вопрос
[17:02:08] cutwater: без прелюдий
[17:02:24] rolan1986: во время работы программы в виджете создаю кнопки и еще один виджет
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[17:02:43] rolan1986: устанавливаю им родителя setParent()
[17:02:46] rolan1986: тут все нормально
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[17:03:11] rolan1986: а вот как получить кнопки в этом виджете позже
[17:03:26] rolan1986: не понимаю
[17:03:38] cutwater: это печально
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[17:03:58] rolan1986: не поспоришь
[17:04:11] cutwater: запомнить ссылку не пробовал?
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[17:05:36] rolan1986: была мысль загнать кнопки в список, а его сделать доступным во всем классе
[17:05:39] rolan1986: потом отказался
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[17:06:34] rolan1986: думаю должны быть инструменты по типу jquery child()
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[17:06:45] rolan1986: но наверное нет
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[17:11:19] rolan1986: короче все ясно с вами, нах только ссылку на форуме повесили.
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[17:12:02] Typhon: ыыы
[17:12:19] nmk: печалька
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[17:12:58] levsha: человек выговориться хотел. Или самоутвердиться, мол "я не тупой - другие тоже не знают ответа"
[17:13:12] guskuskudu: видимо
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[17:13:31] guskuskudu: скорее всего второе
[17:14:06] disconnector: добрый день. что сделать что бы при входе капча каждый раз не запрашивалась?
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[17:14:34] mishok13: готово
[17:15:00] disconnector: это мне?
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[17:15:28] Paradoxx: читаю https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/ref/forms/validation/ и нихера не пойму
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[17:15:45] Paradoxx: есть примеры кода?
[17:15:51] disconnector: конкретный вопрос..
[17:16:00] Paradoxx: class table(models.Model):
description = models.CharField(u"Описание", max_length=200)
subnet = models.CharField(u"Сеть", max_length=20)
bits = models.IntegerField(u"Бит", max_length=4)
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[17:16:03] mishok13: disconnector, да, тебе, больше не должно выдавать капчу
[17:16:10] disconnector: mishok13: спасибо большое
[17:16:32] disconnector: Paradoxx: и что не понятно?
[17:16:42] Paradoxx: там class ContactForm(forms.Form):
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[17:16:48] Paradoxx: а у меня class table(models.Model):
[17:17:28] disconnector: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/modelforms/
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[17:18:40] disconnector: хм. работает )
[17:18:42] Paradoxx: а зачем модель в форму переделывать?
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[17:20:07] disconnector: так у тебя форма данные модели должна принимать наверное? модель не переделывается,- на ее основании генерится форма, для этого нужен django.forms.ModelForm
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[17:20:46] disconnector: почитай линк и попробуй. самому понятней станет
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[17:26:53] Paradoxx: попробую, а если не генерить форму то ведь данные и так добавляются
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[17:31:38] disconnector: ок, начнем с главного, для чего ты скинул доку по валидации форм?
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[17:34:17] disconnector: другими словами не понятно что ты хочешь сделать
[17:34:18] Paradoxx: при добавлении данныхв админке нужно проверять кое-что
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[17:36:29] Paradoxx: данные добавляются на основе модели, нужно проверить одно поле
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[17:39:04] disconnector: мб это https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.0/ref/contrib/admin/#adding-custom-validation-to-the-admin
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[17:45:03] Paradoxx: ну
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[17:47:04] Paradoxx: http://paste.in.ua/2868/ вот этот код проверяет
[17:47:49] Paradoxx: допустим пересечение есть, как вывести сообщение об этом? как код то должен выглядеть если все вместе это сделать
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[17:49:22] Paradoxx: есть пример какой, код позырить где проверка подобная есть
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[17:56:42] Paradoxx: не врубаюсь зачем нужно генерить форму из модели?
[17:56:46] gigimon: куда ты уведомление хочешь вывести
[17:56:53] gigimon: Paradoxx: чтобы ручками не создавать?
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[17:57:08] Paradoxx: прямо в админке при добавлении и хочу вывести
[17:57:35] Paradoxx: т.е. сейчас я могу добавлять все что угодно, как одно поле обработать в админке при вводе?
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[17:58:41] denplis: ну, так добавь, если валидация не прошла, ValidationError
[17:58:55] denplis: посмотри, как это в обычных валидаторах сделано
[17:59:06] Paradoxx: в админке нажимаю добавить сеть, он мне на основе fileds в admin.py выдает форму, как в ней провериьть то
[17:59:17] denplis: django.core.validators
[17:59:21] Paradoxx: я не врублюсь нах форму генерят
[17:59:33] denplis: Сети, это у тебя отдельная модель?
[17:59:39] Paradoxx: да
[17:59:46] Paradoxx: с 3 полями
[18:00:13] denplis: когда добавляешь/меняешь в админке, генерируется форма
[18:00:27] Paradoxx: ну
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[18:01:15] denplis: покажет ошибку, "Такая сеть уже есть" или что-то в этом роде
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[18:01:39] Paradoxx: т.е. функцию писать прямо в admin.py в классе?
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[18:02:02] Paradoxx: которая проверяет одно поле
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[18:02:29] Paradoxx: http://paste.in.ua/2868/ вот этот код проверяет
[18:02:34] denplis: наверное да, если ты там форму переопределяешь
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[18:02:51] Paradoxx: хз короче
[18:03:03] Paradoxx: я нихера не понял!!!!
[18:03:06] Paradoxx: )
[18:03:20] Paradoxx: пример есть?
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[18:05:12] gigimon: примеров куча
[18:05:18] gigimon: ты сначала разберись что такое формы и модели
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[18:22:30] nmk: а никто не встречал такую штуку, что бы json вывести в html красиво? с отступами там, ключики подсвтетить..
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[18:23:11] nmk: * не json, а просто dict ;)
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[18:23:32] Typhon: import pprint
[18:23:44] Typhon: но без подсветки
[18:23:53] Typhon: да и в хтмл не конвертнёт, да, отменяй ответ!
[18:23:55] Typhon: :-)
[18:24:09] nmk: :)
[18:24:19] nmk: ну в html там можно написать еще, вроде
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[19:43:25] огыешсук: nmk: djangorestframework умеет свои ответы выдавать как в JSON так и в красивом HTML в зависимости от клиента
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