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[00:18:32] Typhon: xa4a, а как называется плагин для гита для вима?
[00:18:35] Typhon: типа magit имаксового
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[00:19:07] Typhon: https://github.com/tpope/vim-fugitive это, кажется.
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[00:47:00] xa4a: ага
[00:47:04] xa4a: ещё есть Extradite
[00:47:08] xa4a: для дифа файла
[00:47:14] xa4a: по фугитиву есть скринкаст
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[13:30:04] Magister Yoda: Привет всем! где можно скачать собранный и готовый к инстралляции MySQLdb 1.2.3 для MySQL 5.5?
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[13:35:36] Magister Yoda: при сборке пишет
building '_mysql' extension
error: Unable to find vcvarsall.bat
и закрывается
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[14:07:25] Lispython: непонятный глюк вылез. есть JoinableQueue(50) один процесс наполняет ее с блоком
второй процесс читает с блоком
[14:07:37] Lispython: вот при считывании очередь заполнена полностью
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[14:08:33] Lispython: но взять не получается, возникает эксепшен таймаута
[14:09:01] Lispython: если таймаут убрать, то вообще ждет до бесконечности
[14:09:57] Lispython: причем на рабочей машине без проблем работает, а на сервере вот так
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[18:41:11] Александр: из-за чего может возникнуть ситуация, что очередь заполнена, а получить элемент из очереди не получается?
[18:41:51] bobry: Александр: какой то другой тред уже пытается получить оттуда элемент?
[18:42:14] Александр: да, очередь доступна для нескольких процессов
[18:42:44] bobry: ну это скорее ответ на вопрос был :)
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[18:43:42] Александр: bobry, ну, а в чем проблема тогда?
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[18:44:28] Александр: насколько я знаю, queue как раз и нужны, чтобы с локами не мучаться
[18:44:57] bobry: Александр: код в студию
[18:45:06] bobry: ну или кусочек кода
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[18:45:24] bobry: так сложно сказать, маловероятно что проблема в Queue
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[18:56:21] Александр: bobry, http://dumpz.org/75700/
[18:56:25] Александр: вот кусок кода
[18:56:35] Александр: http://dumpz.org/75701/
[18:56:43] Александр: а вот это записи лога
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[18:58:43] bobry: а `e` там Empty?
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[18:59:33] bobry: и еще, что с block=False происходит?
[19:00:11] Александр: http://dumpz.org/75704/ вот так наполняется
[19:01:08] Александр: bobry, ну если не блочить а очередь пуста он будет после sleep уходить на следующую итерацию
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[19:01:51] Александр: в e вообще никакого сообщения неу
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[19:02:23] Александр: можно в логе увидеть, что скобки [ ] пустые
[19:02:33] bobry: да, это меня и смутило
[19:02:37] bobry: должно быть что то
[19:02:53] denplis: а как добавить что-то в коммит, который не последний ( так бы был —amend) ?
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[19:03:05] bobry: denplis: hg чтоли?
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[19:03:10] denplis: git
[19:03:14] bobry: ааа, не последний
[19:03:19] bobry: ну можно rebase и там reword
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[19:03:42] denplis: спасибо
[19:04:07] jeiz: здраствуйте, а тут кто нибудь в vim пишет?
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[19:04:47] bobry: jeiz: спрашивай, думаю пишут :)
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[19:05:13] jeiz: как там сделать автодоплнение, у меня что-то никак не получается
[19:05:36] Александр: bobry, есть конечно подозрение, что это gevent может что-то химичит
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[19:06:07] Александр: но по идее он к queue из multiocessing не прикасается
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[19:06:44] bobry: Александр: стоп, ты пользуешь Queue из gevent'a?
[19:06:52] Александр: нет
[19:06:55] bobry: почему?
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[19:07:37] Александр: а в чем будет профит?
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[19:08:19] bobry: ну я не в курсе, пожет он Queue тоже патчит
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[19:08:34] bobry: вообще, стандартная Queue будет блокировать твои гринлеты
[19:08:46] Александр: https://bitbucket.org/denis/gevent/src/42292da5c42a/gevent/monkey.py
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[19:09:12] Александр: bobry, а у меня гринлеты запускаются после получения данных из очереди
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[19:09:24] Александр: отрабатывают и умирают
[19:09:48] bobry: не патчит, хм
[19:10:26] bobry: даже не знаю че посоветовать -- ни разу такого не видел, попробуй pdb воткнуть в except ... -- посмотреть что там в e
[19:11:07] Александр: pdb с процессами не умеет вроде работать
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[19:11:41] Александр: что странного, такая хрень получается только на сервере
[19:11:47] bobry: ну хотя бы print(repr(e)) :)
[19:11:58] bobry: локально все ок?
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[19:12:51] Александр: ну вроде как да
[19:13:08] Александр: ну щас попробую трэйсбэк воткнуть
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[19:14:36] Александр: я не знаю, а может быть связано с тем, что тот процесс который кладет данные в очередь тоже с блокировкой это делает?
[19:14:46] Александр: хотя по идее не должно
[19:16:27] bobry: ну если процесс, который пишет делает это очень часто то мб и есть такая возможность
[19:17:23] Александр: но там на размер очереди стоит лимит
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[19:21:23] Александр: bobry, т.е. процесс который получает данные из очереди не может вклиниться и получить свой лок?
[19:22:02] alecs is now I'm not here right now
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[19:22:12] alecs is now I'm not here right now
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[19:22:14] bobry: ну если writer прям совсем часто пишет, то такое может быть, там вроде как mutex
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[19:31:41] Александр: хм
[19:31:46] Александр: Empty
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[19:35:13] Александр: походу все таки дело в gevent
[19:35:18] Александр: он патчит threading
[19:35:42] Александр: а в multiprocessing.queue используется threading
[19:36:09] bobry: зачем тебе вообще multiprocessings?
[19:36:11] bobry: *-s
[19:37:20] Александр: несколько воркеров крутятся и ждут своего часа
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[19:37:37] Александр: bobry, в смысле почему не полностью gevent?
[19:37:58] alecs is now I'm not here right now
[19:38:27] bobry: ага
[19:38:31] bobry: зачем их смешивать?
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[19:39:09] Александр: ну вообще изначально был только мулитипроцессинг
[19:40:02] Александр: но есть один момент, где нужно либо делать последовательно несколько запросов для одних исходных данных, либо параллельно
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[19:40:41] Александр: решил попробовать gevent для этого момента, гринлеты вроде как не очень ресурсоемки
[19:41:14] Александр: ну и ощутимо прибавилась производителность
[19:41:21] Александр: если вот этот глюк не считать
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[19:49:06] Александр: а вообще смысл есть запускать гринлеты в цикле, чтобы они получали данные из очереди?
или прямо пачками их запускать: получил исходные данные, создал пул гринлетов, отработали - сохранил результат?
[19:52:21] bobry: думаю что особого смысла нет
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[19:58:40] Александр: ну во втором случае получится скачкообразная обработка
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[19:59:47] bobry: ну тогда лучше взять очередь, но уже гевентовскую
[20:01:47] Александр: ну вопрос в том, а гринлеты нормально ли будут обрабатывать данные в потоке
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[20:09:21] Tony: Александр, а нужен ли тебе вообще питон при таких жестких условиях на производительность?
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[20:14:01] Александр: познаниями в С и эрланге к сожалению не обладаю :-)
[20:14:28] Александр: ну если можно увеличить скорость раза в 4 без особых проблема, то почему бы нет
[20:14:37] Александр: при той же трате ресурсов
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