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[00:05:42] d1ffuz0r: с праздником всех)
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[00:07:20] Abyx: с каким?
[00:07:37] d1ffuz0r: День программиста
[00:08:13] Abyx: аааааа
это чтоли и есть 2^8 й день?
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[00:08:44] d1ffuz0r: да
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[00:16:38] Abyx: как получить кодировку консоли?
[00:18:10] levsha: перестань терминал называть консолью
[00:18:27] Abyx: у кого терминал а у кого консоль ))
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[00:19:18] levsha: и где ты нашел консоль и зачем она тебе?
[00:19:33] Abyx: итак, я делаю
subprocess.check_output(["cmd", "/c", "dir"])
и получаю байты в кодировке консоли
узнать какая у консоли кодировка?
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[00:21:03] levsha: locale.getlocale . Только это всё-равно не консоль
[00:21:28] levsha: правда под убогими операционками всё может быть
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[00:21:56] d1ffuz0r: http://storage6.static.itmages.ru/i/11/0912/h_1315856951_2081641_1aab472886.jpeg
[00:21:56] Abyx: не, не прокатило
[00:22:16] deepwalker: а кто нибудь в курсе, что за аск?
[00:22:28] deepwalker: я вот знаю grep и sr
[00:22:31] deepwalker: а аск не знаю
[00:22:31] d1ffuz0r: awk может всётаки?
[00:22:50] deepwalker: awk все таки обработка текста
[00:22:53] levsha: ack
[00:22:54] deepwalker: не поиск
[00:23:15] deepwalker: $ aptitude show ack
ACK — очень гибкая программа проверки и преобразования текста на японском, записанного китайскими иероглифами «Кандзи». ACK может выполнять
[00:23:56] Abyx: трехбуквенные имена такие неповторяемые
[00:24:08] levsha: от же ж. http://search.cpan.org/~petdance/ack-1.94/ack
[00:24:16] deepwalker: http://linux.die.net/man/1/ack
[00:25:13] deepwalker: ага, похоже на sr
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[00:25:42] deepwalker: только sr еще заменять умеет
[00:26:32] deepwalker: Abyx, я если честно не только тотал, я mc, который аналог FAR, не запускаю практически
[00:26:44] deepwalker: не нужен тотал в linux
[00:27:25] deepwalker: потому что F12, консоль, дополнение через tab, и все делается гораздо быстрее
[00:28:44] Abyx: deepwalker: консольный mc тоталу не аналог)
[00:28:51] levsha: да да, только убогим операционкам требуются какие-то тоталы чтобы сделать убогое дополнение через tab
[00:29:04] Abyx: а что делает ф12 ?
[00:29:14] Abyx: и какое еще дополнение?
[00:29:20] levsha: в смысле просто убогое дополнение :)
[00:29:24] deepwalker: да не важно, заканчиваем срач
[00:30:08] deepwalker: кто нибудь в курсе, можно для xmpp s2s как то несколько адресов использовать?
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[00:30:23] deepwalker: я вот тут думаю понимаешь над scalability :)
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[00:33:11] deepwalker: а никто с джакондой не игрался?
[00:33:30] deepwalker: http://jaconda.im/
[00:34:20] Abyx: заканчивай онтопик)))
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[00:37:13] vw: люди скажите почему может сбрасываться авторизация через аякс в джанго?
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[12:23:28] cutwater: утро господа
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[12:24:34] cutwater: господа
[12:24:37] Dishair: Всем привет
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[12:24:45] cutwater: кто-нибудь уже регался на pycon
[12:27:25] cutwater: вы знаете, ну и уродская система регистрации.
[12:27:34] Typhon: на квитках?
[12:27:46] cutwater: да
[12:27:48] cutwater: нет
[12:27:54] cutwater: на сайте пайкона
[12:27:54] Typhon: в прошлом году я вообще там с помощью организаторов зарегался %)
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[12:28:25] gigimon: все как обычно
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[12:28:56] cutwater: gigimon: ну мне не совсем понятно какой код туды вводить. при регистрации понятно, в профиле не очень. боюсь как бы я сделал чего не так с этой уродской системой
[12:29:09] gigimon: я хз
[12:29:11] gigimon: пкоа не регался
[12:29:15] cutwater: которая вообще никакой информации о том введен код или нет не предоставляет
[12:29:27] cutwater: авторов казнить
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[12:29:39] Dishair: Есть у кого ни будь свободная минута - помочь новичку с вопросом возникшим при изучении питона?
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[12:30:03] gigimon: да ты задавай тут
[12:31:10] Dishair: вот пример с использованием цикла for
[12:31:28] Dishair: spisok = [0,10,20,30,40,50,60]
i = 0
for element in spisok:
spisok[i] = element + 3
i = i +1
print(spisok)
[12:31:56] Dishair: выдает [3, 13, 23, 33, 43, 53, 63] - и тут всё понятно
[12:32:02] Typhon: ЭТО НЕ ПИТОН!
[12:32:07] Typhon: УБЕРИТЕ ПАСКАЛЬ ИЗ ЧЯТИКА!
[12:33:02] cutwater: поддерживаю
[12:33:02] Dishair: spisok = [0,10,20,30,40,50,60]
i = 0
for element in spisok:
spisok[i] = element + 3
i = i - 1
print(spisok)
если переделать вот так то выдает
[3, 16, 26, 36, 33, 23, 13]
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[12:33:10] Dishair: python 3.2
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[12:33:38] cutwater: Dishair: ты пишешь какую-то хуйню
[12:34:24] Dishair: cutwater: я задал вопрос, хочу разобраться в том как работает язык - прошу выражаться без матов
[12:34:29] cutwater: Dishair: и кстати код работает Just as planned
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[12:35:03] Dishair: в последнем случае - не понятно как работает программа - думаю мне здесь помогут разобраться
[12:35:12] cutwater: Dishair: ты проходишь список с начала до конца. то есть с 0 элемента по последний
[12:35:23] cutwater: а присваиваешь с индексом 0, -1, etc.
[12:35:33] cutwater: Dishair: дальше сам поймешь
[12:35:50] cutwater: и да выражаться буду когда вижу отборное паскалеговон, как считаю нужным
[12:36:50] Dishair: могу прислать скрин с этой программой в питоне - при чем тут паскаль, если нет желания помочь, не мешайте хотя бы
[12:36:59] cutwater: я тебе уже все сказал
[12:37:11] cutwater: Dishair: это не python-стиль.
[12:37:27] cutwater: и еще транслит в коде... кастрировать
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[12:38:24] Dishair: Есть более адекватные люди в чате, которые помогут разобраться без наездов и матов?
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[12:39:06] cutwater: Dishair: перечитай сообщение выше ну. тебе уже все объяснили.
[12:39:20] cutwater: и да проставь print на элемент и индекс и поймешь что не так
[12:39:29] Typhon: Dishair: cutwater в принципе уже ответил, про то, что ты итерируешься в прямом порядке, а индекс i уменьшаешь в обратном. в питоне индексация с отрицательном знаком означает отрицательное смещение
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[12:39:35] Typhon: а так — help(enumerate)
[12:39:41] Typhon: !wtf tutorial
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[12:40:04] Typhon: Dishair: ^^^ там гораздо лучше написано, чем в том месте, которое ты читашеь
[12:41:28] cutwater: Dishair: cutwater хоть и злой, но отвечает по делу. и как бы намекает, что сударь пишет говно.
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[12:43:36] Dishair: cutwater: изначально нужно подходить к вопросу рассудительно и с пониманием того что если человек пишет - значит не понимает, если я всё понимал то и не писал бы. Логично. Просто будьте адекватнее, если это сложно, то уже наверное психологические проблемы ваши.
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[12:44:18] cutwater: И каждый начинает за психологически проблемы... это прелестно =)
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