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[13:55:21] _troll: вопрос. при выполнении команды запуска проекта manage.py runserver - пишет ,что все нормально, смотрите стандартную страничку по адресу 127.0.0.1:8000. - браузер chrom, говорит - ничего там нет и отображает "страница не найдена" - это чтото с настройкой локального хоста?
[13:55:44] gigimon: консоль ченить говорит при этои?
[13:55:54] gigimon: попробуй другой браузер, проверь фаервол, выруби прокси
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[13:57:17] levsha: _troll: глупый вопрос: manage.py и chrom на одном компе?
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[13:57:57] _troll: на одном компе стоит все. изучаю только недавно.
[13:58:37] _troll: в терминале, где зеапускаю. пишет стандартные сообщение что все в порядке.validate- проходит без ошибок
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[13:59:32] _troll: делал проект для теста совсем пустой- тоже самое было. другого браузера нет. вечером поставлю дома
[14:00:03] Typhon: я думаю это прокси, отключи их для локальных адресов
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[14:01:53] levsha: _troll: операционка?
[14:02:18] _troll: debian
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[14:09:38] levsha: значит не слущает твой manage.py ничего
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[14:10:44] _troll: есть такое подозрение. таблетки есть ему?)
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[14:36:52] _troll: that IP adderss can`t be assigned-to теперь так стал
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[14:37:40] cutwater: утро господа
[14:37:47] cutwater: xa4a: ты в Киеве сейчас?
[14:40:20] xa4a: cutwater: нет
[14:41:03] xa4a: в дублине же
[14:41:11] cutwater: да читаю уже бложек
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[15:56:45] deepwalker: xa4a, а что тебя туда понесло?
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[16:18:53] xa4a: deepwalker: застрял вот
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[16:22:08] cutwater: а кто из здешних на pycon собирается
[16:22:25] Typhon: я + (1-3 коллеги), если ты про UA pycon
[16:22:33] cutwater: ну да
[16:22:36] cutwater: а ок круто
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[16:22:47] cutwater: надо будет как-нибудь идентифицировать друг друга
[16:22:55] cutwater: но я еще на Kyiv.py #4 приеду
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[17:16:38] deepwalker: я
[17:16:47] deepwalker: юрий юревич
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[17:17:02] deepwalker: в общем много там кого будет
[17:17:39] cutwater: пиранья вернулся?
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[17:17:55] deepwalker: вроде
[17:18:03] cutwater: круто, таки познакомимся лично
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[17:18:26] Typhon: пиранья ж доклад талкать будет %)
[17:18:38] deepwalker: что там в этом году?
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[17:20:42] xa4a: cutwater: он, вроде, только на pycon
[17:21:37] cutwater: xa4a: ясно. ну как раз на pycon и попадем-с
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[17:32:45] gigimon: Typhon: на какую тему пиранья толкать будет?
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[17:34:56] Typhon: gigimon: go и javascript ^_____^
[17:35:07] gigimon: хы
[17:35:08] gigimon: понятно
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[18:30:37] clicker: всем привет. Ребята, нужен лёгкий парсер html и wml. Есть такой? Использоватся будет на симбиан, программа будет включена практически всегда. Есть такой парсер?
[18:31:02] cutwater: OH SHI~ Symbian is RIP.
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[18:32:20] clicker: >cutwater
не очень понял. Что ты имееш в виду?
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[18:33:32] огыешсук: Это правда.
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[18:36:05] cutwater: clicker: что Symbian устаревшее говно и не нужен. Он должен покоиться на свалках истории.
[18:36:12] cutwater: развернутый ответ
[18:37:02] clicker: о, понятно, спасибо. Только я не о симбиан спрашиваю, а о том есть ли лёгкий парсер, который рассчитан на малое количество ОЗУ ?
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[18:37:49] xa4a: малое количество ОЗУ -> SAX парсеры
[18:38:14] cutwater: lxml точно не подойдет
[18:38:29] cutwater: BeautifulSoup... если он запустится на симбиане....
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[18:38:50] xa4a: !s python symbian sax parser
[18:38:53] clicker: BeautifulSoup это не то
[18:38:56] xa4a: !g python symbian sax parser
[18:39:16] clicker: спасибо
[18:39:20] xa4a: это не питон
[18:39:28] xa4a: !g python pys60 sax parser
[18:39:50] xa4a: а это не pys60
[18:40:14] xa4a: но я бы попробовал что-то стандартное
[18:40:18] cutwater: :-P
[18:40:48] clicker: htmllib ?
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[19:24:51] soulfallen: прошу прощения, господа, блок кода в питоне определяется отступами?
[19:25:19] soulfallen: к примеру как здесь
count = 0
while (count < 9):
print 'The count is:', count
count = count + 1

print "Good bye!"
[19:26:06] soulfallen: (источник на английском, изучаю в данный момент сам язык, трудно пока ориентироваться)
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[19:30:03] Tony: как же ты без английского то?
[19:30:31] xa4a: Tony: может он питон изучает сам?
[19:30:38] xa4a: soulfallen: да
[19:30:52] xa4a: скобки не обязательны там, кстати
[19:30:52] levsha: еще можно зайти на форум, посвященный ремонту автомобилей, и спросить "размер ключа определяется расстоянием между гранями?"
[19:31:34] soulfallen: нашел наиболее толковый по структуре источник http://www.tutorialspoint.com/python/python_while_loop.htm
[19:31:59] wiz: !wtf tutorial
[19:32:07] wiz: soulfallen, ^
[19:32:15] soulfallen: wiz, да да
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[19:40:20] ds.tihonov: Добрый вечер, я вновь с вопросом о skeleteonz, http://paste.org/pastebin/view/38452 вот что выдаёт в косоле если на сайт расместить кирилистичиский текст. Вопрос, куда копать? :)
[19:41:19] wiz: копать в сторону site.py и там править default encoding
[19:41:44] enchantner: в первых строчках файлов писать coding: utf-8
[19:42:09] ds.tihonov: хорошо, спасибо!
[19:42:21] wiz: enchantner, нет
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[19:42:32] enchantner: почему? :)
[19:42:40] wiz: это если файл с кодом не в аски
[19:42:52] enchantner: ну логично
[19:43:01] wiz: а у него данные, а не код
[19:43:14] enchantner: а что, существуют другие кодировки, кроме utf-8?
[19:43:22] enchantner: ну понятно, короче, разобрались :)
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[19:45:59] Typhon: !wtf unicode
[19:46:29] enchantner: это понятно
[19:46:54] enchantner: я про то, что хранить исходники в другой кодировке - плохо, и за такое надо бить по рукам
[19:47:07] enchantner: и да, я понял, что в данном случае разговор идет о данных
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[20:00:01] ds.tihonov: да, работает, подправил /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site.py в функции setencoding(): encoding = "utf8" # Default value set by _PyUnicode_Init()


[20:01:05] soulfallen: не совсем понятно где применяется pass питоне.
[20:02:03] soulfallen: The pass statement in Python is used when a statement is required syntactically but you do not want any command or code to execute.
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[20:02:33] soulfallen: перевел, но не понимаю к чему здесь but you do not want any command or code to execute.
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[20:02:49] огыешсук: Не стоит site.py на эту тему править. Это породит скрипты, которые на других машинах (с неправленным site) работать не будут. Может лучше в скрипте указать # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- ?
[20:02:51] wiz: soulfallen, try: something_awful()
except CheezyError: pass
[20:02:58] soulfallen: хотелось бы реальный пример посмотреть
[20:03:01] wiz: огыешсук, так не работает же
[20:03:24] wiz: soulfallen, у меня реальный
[20:03:37] wiz: поймал exception, но ничего делать не надо → pass
[20:03:46] soulfallen: угу
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[20:04:35] wiz: опять же, class CheezyError(Exception): pass
[20:04:39] ds.tihonov: огыешсук: вот в том-то и проблема, в каком конкретно скрипте втыкать # -*- coding: utf-8 -*-, обошёлся пока site.py но твоё замечание учту. Спасибо.
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[20:05:18] огыешсук: во всех где есть такие символы
[20:05:22] огыешсук: а лучше вообще во всех
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[20:06:01] soulfallen: хотя если посудить из примера
for letter in 'Python':
if letter == 'h':
pass
print 'This is pass block'
print 'Current Letter :', letter

print "Good bye!"
[20:06:07] ds.tihonov: огыешсук: хм, я тебя вполне понимаю и в следующий раз учту ;)
[20:06:09] soulfallen: это тот же continue
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[20:07:30] soulfallen: стоп, не читайте последнее... что то я слишком перебрал с выводами.
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[20:09:42] wiz: pass это просто do_nothing()
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[20:16:19] soulfallen: вот теперь полностью понял
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[22:48:53] Tony: существует ли в природе что-то вроде os.path.join только для урлов http(s)?
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[22:50:06] levsha: а там то он зачем?
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[22:54:10] d1ffuz0r: Tony: http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.html#examples urlencode оно?
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[22:54:59] Tony: не. маленько не то
[22:55:38] Tony: levsha, запарило делать 'http://%s/%s' % (host, '/'.join(path_tuple))
[22:57:02] Tony: хотел бы сделоть чтобы само следило скажем что не надо два / добавлять, не надо / в конце .jpg итд итп.
[22:57:06] levsha: Tony: ну оберни в свою функцию. Но тут всё-равно нету специфики как в os.path
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[22:57:22] Tony: так и сделаю наверное
[22:57:27] Tony: думал может готовое есть уже
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