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[11:38:35] RaD: камрады, че lxml не хочет парсить cp1251 файл
[11:38:54] RaD: я и так, и эдак .decode('cp1251'), не хочет мать его
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[12:47:01] DrShall: установлен модуль psycopg2 для работы с постгри, но ругается постоянно, что такого модуля нет, куда ковырять?
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[12:47:46] Typhon: как установлен? установлена ли сишная часть?
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[12:56:06] cutwater: Господа, а кто чем пользуется для юниттестов?
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[12:58:13] gigimon: питоновый модуль юниттестов
[12:58:32] cutwater: ну а всякие nose и т.п.?
[12:59:21] gigimon: я nose с freshen юзаю
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[12:59:51] cutwater: просто после Kyiv.py #4 звучало, что nose как бы устарел и не развивается
[12:59:59] cutwater: собственно может есть какие альтернативы
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[13:00:27] DrShall: ставил через easy_install
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[13:00:36] cutwater: DrShall: установился без ошибок?
[13:00:49] DrShall: никаких ошибок не выдавал
[13:00:52] gigimon: cutwater: а они не предложили?
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[13:01:15] cutwater: а у меня внезапно склероз, а вспомнить не могу.
[13:01:21] cutwater: ну кроме py.test
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[13:01:53] nmk: py.test? я его краем глаза смотрел, че-то там какой-то ад
[13:02:10] cutwater: ну вот говорили тоже там весьма сложная система
[13:02:58] DrShall: Searching for psycopg2
Best match: psycopg2 2.2.1
Adding psycopg2 2.2.1 to easy-install.pth file

Using /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
Processing dependencies for psycopg2
Finished processing dependencies for psycopg2
[13:03:17] gigimon: проверь пути и что он все же поставился
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[13:05:46] DrShall: ну по пути есть папка psycopg2, предполагаю что это означает, что стоит
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[13:10:00] Typhon: gcc есть? %)
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[13:10:36] DrShall: во, удалил лишние пути, теперь ругается Error: No module named staticfiles
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[13:10:45] gigimon: %)
[13:10:45] DrShall: но через изиинстал нет такого модуля
[13:10:51] cutwater: удалил лишние пути.... это оригинально
[13:10:59] cutwater: что именно ты сделал
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[13:11:26] DrShall: в эклипсе удалил вручную прописанные пути и дал ему самому определить пути
[13:11:43] DrShall: создал проект еще раз, стартую, теперь на это ругается
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[13:11:56] cutwater: запусти из консоли просто python
[13:12:00] cutwater: и сделай impoty
[13:12:03] cutwater: *import
[13:12:18] gigimon: запусти из консоли
[13:12:31] DrShall: импорт чего? или просто импорт?
[13:12:41] cutwater: импорт постгресного модуля
[13:12:58] cutwater: import psycopg2
[13:13:23] DrShall: >>> import psycopg2
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: No module named psycopg2
[13:13:40] gigimon: проверяй PATH и PYTHONPATH
[13:13:48] cutwater: DrShall: дистр какой?
[13:14:08] DrShall: cutwater, ОС?
[13:14:12] cutwater: дистр
[13:14:17] cutwater: дистрибутив
[13:14:20] cutwater: да ОС
[13:14:27] DrShall: убунта 11.04
[13:14:28] gigimon: убунта
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[13:14:50] cutwater: DrShall: а попробуй через пакетный менеджер поставить
[13:15:04] DrShall: тоже стоит
[13:15:05] cutwater: в данной ситуации это решит твою проблему без особых трудностей
[13:15:07] gigimon: apt-get install psycopg2
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[13:15:23] cutwater: что-то ты явно где-то крутил...
[13:15:23] gigimon: cutwater: ну может он удалил все пути...
[13:15:27] DrShall: только пакет postrgresql-psycopg2
[13:15:32] cutwater: gigimon: да хрен его знает.
[13:15:34] gigimon: ну его поставь
[13:15:39] DrShall: уже стоит
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[13:15:44] gigimon: знач пути
[13:15:50] gigimon: DrShall: сделай в консоли env
[13:15:51] cutwater: ты хотел сказать python-psycopg2
[13:15:54] gigimon: и выложи на dpaste.org
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[13:17:44] cutwater: DrShall: ты там ничего в путях куда установлен питон не крутил?
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[13:18:05] cutwater: и еще случайно ну мало ли ты может питон не той версии запускаешь для которого ты ставил пакет
[13:18:17] DrShall: http://dpaste.org/tDTVC/
[13:19:05] DrShall: да вроде тот питон
[13:19:20] deepwalker: переустановить виндоус
[13:19:26] cutwater: :-D
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[13:19:40] gigimon: cutwater: глянь его env, в путях нету к либам пути и нету pythonpath
[13:19:44] deepwalker: мне всегда помогало, гарантирую
[13:19:50] cutwater: gigimon: ну нету и что?
[13:20:05] gigimon: мож ставит куда не туда
[13:20:08] gigimon: не в питон
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[13:20:39] cutwater: как бы в env если ничего не трогать и не должно быть LD_LIBRARY_PATH и PYTHONPATH
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[13:20:53] DrShall: ну по python -V выдают ту версию, а больше кроме 2.6 питона и нету
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[13:21:41] deepwalker: а ты по which глянь еще
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[13:22:34] DrShall: а полностью как?
[13:24:02] cutwater: which python
[13:24:36] DrShall: опа.. а вот похоже и другой
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[13:25:02] deepwalker: расплодилось то питонов
[13:25:21] deepwalker: вообще я бы не стал использовать эклипс для питона
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[13:25:29] cutwater: почему?
[13:25:37] wiz: *вообще я бы не стал использовать эклипс
[13:25:37] cutwater: у нас на работе используют.
[13:25:40] deepwalker: да ну он сам по себе кривой
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[13:25:51] cutwater: deepwalker: ты просто не умеешь его готовить >_<
[13:25:59] cutwater: но таки да pycharm получше будет
[13:26:03] cutwater: а еще vim
[13:26:07] cutwater: vim тоже няшка
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[13:26:28] deepwalker: я даже никакого желания не испытываю его готовить, я его с явой смотрел, он меня и в этом режиме не восхитил
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[13:26:57] deepwalker: тогда точно пишарм
[13:27:08] deepwalker: он и шаблончики дебажить умеет
[13:27:09] DrShall: только пока не могу никак ее нормально запустить
[13:27:20] deepwalker: а зачем ты в эклипс то с ней полез?
[13:27:22] cutwater: DrShall: а ты бы для начала не пользовался IDE
[13:27:28] cutwater: а взял бы консольку, gedit
[13:27:52] cutwater: DrShall: а еще научился бы пользовать консоль, хотя бы на базовом уровне
[13:28:40] DrShall: я бы с удовольствием, если б где то сжато это было, а то по каждой мелочи пол инета приходится перекапывать
[13:29:24] cutwater: ну для начала все таки азы питона и консоли надо. срочно.
[13:29:32] cutwater: даже на хабре было. щас найду
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[13:29:58] cutwater: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/linux/28754/
ну хотя бы вот
[13:30:01] DrShall: азы питона как языка почитал
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[13:30:33] cutwater: http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/linux/18375/
[13:30:34] cutwater: ну или вот
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[13:32:34] cutwater: DrShall: eclipse наверно тоже из репозиториев ставил?
[13:32:48] cutwater: и openjdk у тебя стоит небось?
[13:33:02] DrShall: не помню, наверно из репы
[13:33:44] cutwater: вот из репов ставить эклипс действительно хреновая идея + если у тебя openjdk стоит
[13:33:45] DrShall: угу, опенждк стоит
[13:33:49] cutwater: срочно ставь sun
[13:34:31] cutwater: потому как с openjdk Eclipse точно а возможно и другие IDE не сильно дружат. возможны баги.
[13:34:34] Typhon: но зачем?! если можно удалить и то, и другое
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[13:34:57] cutwater: ну да сносить openjdk
[13:35:13] cutwater: и пока что осваивать gedit + консолько
[13:35:25] cutwater: DrShall: и еще сразу совет тебе будет проще для джанги сначала sqlite
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[13:36:29] DrShall: а опенджк че то полно
[13:36:39] DrShall: и 6-жре и 6-ждк
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[14:11:17] DrShall: буржуи говорят еще и джангу надо 1.2 юзать, а не 1.3, в новой как раз ругается на staticfiles
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[14:14:21] cutwater: DrShall: и у меня ничего не ругается
[14:14:25] cutwater: так что я не знаю что ты делаешь не так
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[14:45:27] nmk: а никто не в курсе, если в постгресе запустить cluster на таблицу, то как-то можно узнать в каком оно состоянии? а то 2 часа на 18гб таблицу как-то многовато
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[14:52:42] DrShall: хм..на чистой системе тоже самое сделал заработало
[14:52:49] DrShall: без эклипса
[14:53:10] DrShall: и джанга 1.3
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[14:59:18] DrShall: /me думает чего бы на своей системе выправить, чтоб так же заработало
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[15:32:25] levsha: nmk: если из системы посмотреть какие файлы читает и пишет в данный момент процесс, то можно оценить сколько процентов таблицы он прошел
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[15:32:46] nmk: levsha: еще бы узнать сколько всего этих файлов :)
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[15:35:26] DrShall: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/indexes/downloads/index.html че то не наблюдается там эклипса
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[15:36:41] DrShall: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ а это не то?
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[15:38:43] levsha: nmk: а это тоже не сложно. У всех файлов, относящихся к одной таблице, название состоит из oid и порядкового номера
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[15:39:54] gigimon: DrShall: ты же джаву искал
[15:39:57] gigimon: прчием тут эклипс
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[15:40:50] DrShall: сами же советовали сановский эклипс юзать, если вообще его юзать
[15:40:54] gigimon: JAVA
[15:40:57] gigimon: а не кэлипс
[15:41:00] gigimon: элипс*
[15:41:02] gigimon: та епт
[15:41:12] gigimon: джаву сановскую вместо openjdk
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[15:41:48] DrShall: лан, завтра секас продолжу
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[15:44:06] nmk: levsha: да что-то мало мне все равно этой инфы. сейчас он пишет в какие-то файлы, но если предположить, что это oidы, то найти их в pg_class я не могу
[15:44:35] nmk: ебучий zabbix
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[16:00:53] levsha: nmk: плохо ищешь значит
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[16:02:31] nmk: levsha: так понятно, что плохо. ну вот смотри. нашел я файлы. как понять профигачил он их или нет? по дате изменения?
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[16:03:23] levsha: nmk: еще раз: нужно смотреть какие именно файлы процес в данный момент читает. При кластеризации процесс линейно прочитает всю таблицу
[16:03:45] levsha: или смотреть какой файл пишет и сравнивать с общим размером таблицы
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[16:04:11] nmk: ох. как узнать читает он или пишет? lsof показывает файлы как u открытые.
[16:04:24] nmk: размер таблицы сильно уменьшится после кластеризации
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[16:04:30] nmk: там было много delete
[16:04:41] nmk: vacuum почему-то не почистил
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[16:08:35] levsha: просто vacuum всё не почистит. Надо как минимум vacuum full
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[16:11:30] nmk: ну конкретно на этом инстатнсе я full не делал. на другом делал. выглядит как: pg_relation_size показывает слишком большой размер, но он не растет. правда сейчас 9.0, а там был 8.3.7. но cluster то сейчас я не из-за размера делаю. там просто сейчас все реально в перемешку
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[16:13:45] zarg: а в какой базе хранить биллинговые логи?
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[16:14:03] nmk: zarg: да в любой ;)
[16:14:07] wiz: в pg
[16:14:17] zarg: там это
[16:14:21] zarg: много
[16:14:21] nmk: wiz: ха. а в mysql есть партицирование из коробки :)
[16:14:35] wiz: и чо?
[16:14:47] nmk: wiz: чо чо. для логов это плюс
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[16:15:02] nmk: бэкап правда через жопу будет
[16:15:05] zarg: в день до 1миллиона записей
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[16:15:14] wiz: mongodb гг
[16:15:18] nmk: гг
[16:15:28] zarg: за 12 дней 1.7гб
[16:15:39] wiz: zarg, а что с ними потом делают, с этими логами?
[16:15:40] nmk: zarg: тут дело не в том как хранить, а в том что тебе от них надо. если просто хранить, то можно и berkeley db хранить
[16:15:41] wiz: сколько надо хранить?
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[16:15:52] zarg: я думаю месяца два
[16:16:04] nmk: логи биллинга месяца два?
[16:16:08] zarg: да
[16:16:18] mishok13: как-то маловато
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[16:16:25] zarg: лучше больше
[16:16:29] zarg: ну там дамп трафика
[16:16:35] zarg: дамп то трафика можно бэкапить
[16:16:41] zarg: и удалять
[16:16:45] wiz: первый месяц в пг, потом в монгу, а потом в devnull
[16:16:50] zarg: ))
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[16:16:57] wiz: или на ленты
[16:16:57] nmk: wiz: нахуй в монгу то? :)
[16:16:58] zarg: а чем монга лучше пг
[16:17:02] zarg: )
[16:17:14] wiz: nmk, ну это какбы девнулл, только вроде как и хранит (8
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[16:17:32] zarg: :)
[16:17:44] nmk: wiz: в файлы дешевле и проще
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[16:20:06] zarg: на одну запись 93 байта
[16:20:08] zarg: дофига как-то
[16:20:22] wiz: zarg, это в чём?
[16:20:32] zarg: select pg_relation_size('statistics')/(select count(*) from statistics);
[16:20:33] Typhon: "месяца два" — если сертифицировали как-то штуковину свою, то должны быть чёткие сроки, емнип
[16:20:38] Typhon: в рф, по крайней мере
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[16:21:13] nmk: zarg: считай как pg_total_relation_size, индексы же есть?
[16:21:28] Typhon: ну вот к нам чувак приходил недавно, хвастал https://github.com/ivaxer/cbs — такой штуковиной, для хранения netflow использовали типа
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[16:22:24] nmk: Typhon: netflow помоему идеально в raik заливать, не? :)
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[16:22:45] zarg: ой
[16:22:48] zarg: 269 байт на запись
[16:22:50] zarg: адов ад
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[16:23:07] wiz: riak?
[16:23:11] zarg: pg
[16:23:27] nmk: wiz: riak, да. :)
[16:23:28] wiz: у нас тупо в файлах лежит
[16:23:32] Typhon: nmk: хз, у них вот такк, по рассказам
[16:23:39] zarg: http://dpaste.com/617692/
[16:23:42] nmk: да нетфлоу проебать не страшно
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[16:31:19] zarg: норм схема?
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[16:37:39] py_two: os.startfile("C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe"+" "+"/?")
[16:37:58] py_two: как бы так запустить cmd.exe с параметром ?:)
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[16:49:05] xa4a: Break your time! ВР скасувала перехід України на зимовий час
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[16:50:33] mishok13: ммм, ок
[16:50:47] mishok13: тебе-то какая разница, ирландец? ;)
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[16:55:54] RaD: камраден, а как на питоне слить два xml?
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[16:56:21] RaD: т.е. если таги совпадают, собрать атрибуты в один
[16:56:46] RaD: я могу конечно рекурсией пройтись по дереву, но есть подозрение, что существуют более эффективные методы
[16:56:54] py_two: wiz: нужно еще вот что: нужно определить путь до самого себя и перейти выше на одну директорию
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[16:58:28] xa4a: mishok13: интересно, как с этим в софте разбираются обычно?
[16:58:52] xa4a: py_two: посмотри функции в os
[16:59:03] py_two: все, уже нашел
[16:59:14] nmk: RaD: тындекс вакансия?
[16:59:17] mishok13: ну как-как, ставят новый tzdata и не парятся
[16:59:52] mishok13: а кто не пользуется tzdata тот сам себе злобный буратино
[17:00:14] RaD: nmk: угу
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[17:01:09] nmk: RaD: ну я просто шел вниз, насколько я помню
[17:01:22] RaD: т.е. тупо рекурсия?
[17:01:30] nmk: нет рекурсии
[17:01:33] xa4a: зачем рекурсия?
[17:01:33] nmk: зачем рекурсия?
[17:01:38] RaD: а там вложенные теги
[17:01:42] xa4a: два параллельных sax-парсера
[17:01:53] xa4a: например
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[17:02:42] RaD: я вот джангу каждый день колбашу, а xml по случаю...
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[17:02:57] RaD: от слова sax чета плохо становится :)
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[17:03:29] xa4a: ну… почитай про парсинг xml, что ли
[17:03:40] nmk: RaD: а дай линк на вакансию, что-то найти не могу
[17:03:45] xa4a: полезно для общего развития. я, вощем-та тоже особо не работал с xml
[17:03:54] xa4a: !g yandex два xml дерева
[17:04:01] RaD: http://company.yandex.ru/job/vacancies/engineer_testing_python.xml
[17:04:39] xa4a: Ъ - на xslt, кстати
[17:04:58] RaD: там чётко написано на скриптах написать
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[17:05:45] nmk: RaD: я вроде через elementtree iter() делал
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[17:06:36] RaD: кстати да!
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[17:08:29] mks: народ ктонить может помочь с django-й ? Пытаюсь подключить css файлы в шаблоны таким образом - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/static-files/#howto-static-files ничего не выходит
[17:08:47] nmk: RaD: расскажи потом как собеседование, если пригласят, конечно ;)
[17:08:55] mks: работаю с сервером разработки
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[17:09:34] RaD: а как узнавал текущее положение в дереве?
[17:09:47] RaD: ведь тег может быть в разных местах
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[17:09:54] RaD: или это я усложняю
[17:10:04] mks: RaD: ты мне говоришь ?
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[17:10:53] nmk: RaD: я помоему просто шел вниз. если добавить что-то во второй файл, то был фейл
[17:10:59] nmk: но я им ничего не посылал :)
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[17:11:32] nmk: RaD: аа. вспомнил. там условие задачи читал?
[17:11:38] nmk: "Даны два xml-файла, отличающиеся только атрибутами"
[17:11:42] nmk: хули мудрить
[17:12:09] огыешсук: Если файлы махонькие, то можно и DOM вместо SAXа. Это зело проще.
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[17:12:53] RaD: а, ок
[17:13:03] огыешсук: Если нет аттрибутов (только теги и их содержимое) то можно вообще XMLки в dict`ы превратить и слить обычным update
[17:13:16] RaD: я по привычке, сразу прикрыться по всем фронтам хочу (заказчики суки постоянно меняют требования)
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[17:13:45] nmk: огыешсук: там вложенные элементы
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[17:15:29] RaD: а чем в lxml получать список атрибутов у узла?
[17:16:01] RaD: keys()
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[17:18:38] огыешсук: скорее .attrib
[17:19:14] огыешсук: если интересны не только имена атрибутов
[17:19:50] RaD: не, только имена
[17:20:05] RaD: осталось понять, как изменять содержимое тагов
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[17:20:31] nmk: RaD: вообще как-то странно ты подходишь к собеседованию
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[17:21:11] огыешсук: а куда собеседуешься то? в яндекс или в гугль?
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[17:23:47] RaD: а как я должен подходить?
[17:24:14] Typhon: RaD: ну явно не в чате спрашивать всё %)
[17:24:16] Typhon: читать доки
[17:24:20] Typhon: писать код
[17:25:23] nmk: RaD: ну, хотя бы использовать ту библиотеку которую лучше всего знаешь. читать более досканально доки, что бы отвечать на околостоящие вопросы..
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[17:26:38] wiz: и не палиться в публичных логах канала, что ты спрашиваешь подсказки при собеседовании на работу в поисковике (;
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[17:28:11] Typhon: wiz: ^^ :D
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[17:29:45] RaD: гыгы
[17:29:57] RaD: просто мне пох :)
[17:30:20] nmk: RaD: только 120к в тындексе не дадут :)
[17:30:26] RaD: вот суки
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[17:30:39] RaD: там за еду работают?
[17:30:46] nmk: я не знаю.
[17:30:49] огыешсук: да
[17:30:50] nmk: но мне так кажется
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[17:31:06] огыешсук: дадут только 60, но промоют мозги как на 120
[17:31:15] RaD: мля, опять придётся идти пилить в госконторы...
[17:31:16] nmk: огыешсук: а ты пробовал ?
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[17:31:36] RaD: на шисят я не пойду, это можно и не выходя из дома поднять
[17:31:43] огыешсук: у меня бывший коворкер туда сманился, тут имел 50 там получил 60, радуется
[17:31:52] nmk: огыешсук: в мск?
[17:31:59] RaD: а ну да, ему ж бейджик дали, вот он и рад
[17:32:03] огыешсук: из провинции в москву, да
[17:32:16] RaD: я б из провинции за 20 процентов не рванул
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[17:32:36] nmk: огыешсук: ну если запросы небольшие, то чего б не радоваться. :)
[17:32:52] nmk: огыешсук: а с жильем как? не интересовался?
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[17:33:06] RaD: снял комнату в новогирееве, епт
[17:33:13] огыешсук: не интересовался, а что с жильём? вроде все знают что в москве с жильём жопа
[17:33:23] RaD: если не один, то 60 это ничто
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[17:34:00] RaD: чёта вы отговорили меня пробовать в яндекс, я то хотел прорваться как тестер, а потом развернуться на месте
[17:34:10] RaD: :)
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[17:35:32] nmk: огыешсук: да понятно что жопа. эти 10к в жилье и уйдут, не?
[17:35:41] RaD: 20 минимум
[17:35:43] огыешсук: да больше уйдёт
[17:35:50] nmk: RaD: зря. попробуй. времени много не потеряешь.
[17:35:56] огыешсук: но це ж яндыксъ
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[17:36:07] RaD: да мне пох на понты
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[17:36:19] огыешсук: это ж как гугл, только провинциальный немного
[17:36:23] nmk: огыешсук: я может не так выразился. я имел ввиду что он где-то в провинции жил, ну, скажем за 10к, в мск будет за 20к жить
[17:36:57] огыешсук: ну да, если за 20 чего приличного найти удастся
[17:37:18] nmk: огыешсук: комнату имхо
[17:37:27] RaD: даже за 30 сдавать будет или алканафт или бабка-задолбыш
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[17:38:03] огыешсук: ну и хрена ль тогда там делать в этой москве, не лучше за эти же 20/30 снять себе виллу в тайланде?
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[17:38:18] огыешсук: где и экология получше и тепло и вообще
[17:38:34] RaD: огыешсук: ты просёк тему
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[17:39:27] огыешсук: а чего ж из москвы ещё все программеры не поразбежались то ещё?
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[17:40:29] RaD: купили хаты, машины, у многих ипотеки, вросли так сказать
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[17:41:01] огыешсук: машину легко продать, хату сдать и улететь
[17:41:17] RaD: уже пробовал?
[17:41:18] огыешсук: даже работать при таких ценах сдачи не особо так надо будет
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[17:41:40] огыешсук: нет, не пробовал, у меня нет собственной квартиры в москве
[17:42:31] wiz: /me хочет понаехать в Мск, но лениво как-то.
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[17:43:13] огыешсук: wiz: а зачем? выше пишут дорого там жить, шумно, грязно, людей много очень
[17:43:36] wiz: в замкадье скучно
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[17:44:12] wiz: вообще я бы наверно даже в ебург или новосиб понаехал. там вроде и цивилизация и не такой срач, как в Мск.
[17:44:20] огыешсук: если куда понаехать, то лучше уж сразу в SF bay area. Снимать апартменты стоит стлько же как в москве, но климат помягше, апартменты поширше ну и IT движуха вокруг зашкаливает
[17:44:35] wiz: огыешсук, туда геморно
[17:44:39] wiz: проще в тай
[17:45:04] огыешсук: да, в тай проще всего, и дешевле, но там движухи нету
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[17:47:09] xa4a: а какая движуха нужна?
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[17:49:02] огыешсук: это у всех свои представления
[17:49:21] огыешсук: лично мне конкретно сейчас никакой не нужно, хочется отдохнуть от компа месяц-другой
[17:49:53] огыешсук: но вон же в мск люди зачем то едут же
[17:50:08] огыешсук: говорят, там весело
[17:51:00] wiz: в принципе, если будет тачка, то раз в неделю на движуху или там по магазам вполне можно прокатиться - и жить там необязательно.
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[17:51:53] RaD: поверь, задолбает быстро
[17:52:16] RaD: я в магаз раз в месяц езжу, холодильник затарить
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[18:05:46] wiz: ну, в новогиреево комнату снимать за пол зп задолбает ещё быстрее (=
[18:05:54] wiz: холодильник у нас и так есть тут где
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[18:07:11] огыешсук: wiz: а вы где?
[18:07:30] wiz: Дмитров - 60 км на север
[18:07:33] RaD: отправил
[18:07:40] RaD: а я 20 на запад
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[18:07:52] Typhon: дмитровка ад какой-то %)
[18:07:58] wiz: Зеленоград какой-нибудь?
[18:08:01] огыешсук: у, а я 400 на юго-восток
[18:08:06] RaD: дедовску
[18:08:12] wiz: аа
[18:08:12] Typhon: новая рига — ок
[18:08:16] RaD: ага
[18:08:16] wiz: у меня там знакомые живут
[18:08:21] wiz: дыра?
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[18:08:31] RaD: я не в самом дедовске, у меня нормально
[18:08:49] RaD: нарколыг нету, вокруг зюганов и прочие слуги народа
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[18:16:12] RaD: так, надо ещё вакансию приглядеть
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[18:36:08] Tony: * wiz хочет понаехать в Мск, но лениво как-то. # ты там был?
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[18:38:07] gigimon: есть знатоки sed?
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[18:38:49] deepwalker: а смысл есть туда понаезжать?
[18:38:50] nmk: gigimon: мне гугл отвечал на все вопросы по sed'у. без стеба, честно :)
[18:38:57] gigimon: есть выражение sed 's/\([\.\w\-]+\)/\1/'
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[18:39:27] gigimon: есть строка scalarizr (0.7.r1967-1) trunk
[18:39:33] gigimon: надо вывести то, что в скобках
[18:39:41] gigimon: он это делает, но выводит в скобках
[18:39:59] gigimon: т.е. (0.7.r1967-1)
а надо 0.7.r1967-1
[18:40:07] gigimon: чет я его регулярки вообще не пойму
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[18:46:21] xa4a: поменяй местами \( и (
[18:46:27] xa4a: а
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[18:47:09] Tony: может тебе типа через cut убрать потом начальные и конечные скобки?
[18:47:13] deepwalker: sed -r "s/.+\((.+)\).+/\1/"
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[18:47:39] gigimon: deepwalker: тоже скобки выводит
[18:47:47] xa4a: gigimon: нет, не выводит
[18:47:48] deepwalker: а у меня не выводит :)
[18:48:00] gigimon: а кхм
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[18:48:07] deepwalker: $ echo "scalarizr (0.7.r1967-1) trunk" | sed -r "s/.+\((.+)\).+/\1/"
0.7.r1967-1

[18:48:07] gigimon: у меня тут просто еред этим еще кусочек...
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[18:49:09] gigimon: чет я ниче не понимаю...
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[18:49:11] gigimon: ну да ладно)
[18:49:15] gigimon: спасибо
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[18:49:25] deepwalker: Фридл рулит :)
[18:49:49] deepwalker: мне одного раза хватило чтобы проникнуться
[18:50:02] RaD: http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/p/plugin-hsv-color-space/plugin-hsv-color-space.php - охренеть
[18:50:08] RaD: гляньте в авторы :)
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[18:50:14] RaD: я уж думал оно никому не нужно
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[18:50:31] xa4a: фридла даже можно меньше одного раза) чуть больше половины, обычно, хватает
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[18:50:52] deepwalker: и кто авторы?
[18:51:10] deepwalker: качать, распаковывать и тп, вместо того чтобы просто услышать - no way
[18:51:12] RaD: я
[18:51:18] deepwalker: черт, как я не догадался
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[18:51:51] RaD: ага, я тоже удивлён
[18:51:56] nmk: RaD: там дифа на 120кб Ж)
[18:52:19] deepwalker: есть неленивые
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[18:52:35] gigimon: что за фридл?
[18:52:43] deepwalker: книжка про регулярки
[18:52:46] gigimon: а
[18:52:53] deepwalker: очень крутая
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[18:53:12] RaD: ни одной правки кода, всё про упаковку
[18:53:15] gigimon: ну дык регулярки я вполне знаю, тут трабла в другом как оказалось была (перед awk кусок скрипта другое выводил)
[18:53:20] deepwalker: оттуда я узнал что за нафиг с грепом, и почему в нем не работают регулярки pcre
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[18:53:29] gigimon: я фридла читал ту книгу по регуляркам тогда)
[18:53:37] deepwalker: отмазывайся :P
[18:53:38] RaD: у меня на полочке такая стоит
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