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[00:07:03] NTAngel: Ура, FreeBSD RC1 )))
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[00:10:21] levsha: от же ж. Постоянно встречаются люди, которые зачем-то ждут релиза...
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[00:11:52] NTAngel: levsha: Ну для меня релиз, это значит ктото тестил и много раз и вот чего-то там более менее стабильное работающее на паблике. Да, я отчетливо понимаю что бага может вдруг и у меня какая-нить всплыть, но это же не значит что я не применно споткнусь и приостановлюсь )
[00:14:13] NTAngel: + хочется наконец-то за LLVM , CLang взяться, у себя в туду-листе держу запись "выйдет FreeBSD 9.0 REALESE начать работы по переходу на CLang и всякое новое )"
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[00:15:12] xa4a: NTAngel: ты какой-то старомодный.. писать на С про FreeBSD уже давно не модно.
[00:15:28] xa4a: s/про/под/
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[00:16:21] levsha: NTAngel: я тебя расстрою: всё то, что нужно именно тебе, не тестил никто
[00:16:35] NTAngel: xa4a: не ужто на С++ предлагаешь?
[00:16:49] xa4a: NTAngel: тут же pythonua@
[00:16:57] NTAngel: ой ну нахрен ((((
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[00:17:17] levsha: NTAngel: но если тебе нужен срез ветки, устаревший уже в момент появления, то релиз это твой выбор
[00:17:31] xa4a: (завтра, кстати по секрету, будет модно native client)
[00:18:06] NTAngel: Если бы я написал криптор на питоне, я бы матом изошелся пока мой криптор завиртуализовал бы x86-64 код )))
[00:18:32] xa4a: дело в том..
[00:18:41] xa4a: что крипторы тоже не модно писать :(
[00:18:46] xa4a: модно писать игрушки под ифон
[00:18:56] NTAngel: xa4a: ога ога )))
[00:19:19] levsha: /me не смог распарсить "криптор завиртуализовал бы x86-64 код". Наверное нихрена в этом не понимаю
[00:19:36] xa4a: /me тоже ваще-та. так, из контекста только догадаться можно
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[00:22:59] NTAngel: xa4a: крипторы не модно писать? Ну гляди 1) http://vmpsoft.com/purchase/buy-online/ , 2) http://www.enigmaprotector.com/ru/order.html а еще других решений шо пипец а-ля StarForce, Guardant . Это модно и будет модно еще хз скоко!
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[00:30:52] xa4a: http://www.coderanch.com/t/425037/Jobs-Offered/careers/COBOL-Programmers-wanted-Washington-Maryland
[00:30:57] xa4a: на коболе тоже модно?
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[00:32:11] levsha: NTAngel: пороть тебя надо ...
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[00:37:57] Typhon: всем zeromq, пацаны http://lists.zeromq.org/pipermail/zeromq-dev/2011-October/013818.html
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[00:42:41] Typhon: xa4a, а ты знаешь чоткие места в кiеве? (i нужен с двумя точками, да, но я забыл, как её ставить :-( )
[00:43:02] NTAngel: levsha: зашто? )))
[00:43:09] gigimon: Typhon: ошибся и не только в и с точками)
[00:43:21] gigimon: NTAngel: такие крипторы ток проблемы делают
[00:43:23] Typhon: gigimon, :-( а как правильно?
[00:43:26] gigimon: усложняют простым людям
[00:43:33] gigimon: Typhon: киЙИв
[00:43:42] gigimon: ЙИ = и с двумя точками
[00:43:59] gigimon: и = ы
[00:44:03] Typhon: :-( надо запомнить
[00:44:07] NTAngel: простым людям которым влом проекту бабла подкинуть на развитие? )
[00:44:28] NTAngel: Да и если честно как жрать то если не зарабатывать бабла? )
[00:44:47] gigimon: писать игрушки под айфон :)
[00:45:02] gigimon: старфорс - фуфуфу
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[00:45:12] gigimon: не видел ниодного его применения нормального для юзеров
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[00:45:30] NTAngel: айфон? да ну нах, я гуглфон лучше куплю и то на старость лет, когда скучно будет
[00:45:47] NTAngel: а пока итак есть куда потратить бабло
[00:45:48] xa4a: Typhon: gigimon: держите ї
[00:46:17] gigimon: )
[00:46:32] Typhon: а что надо нажать вместе с compose key, чтобы оно появилось? %)
[00:46:44] xa4a: хз. у меня раскладка специальная)
[00:46:49] xa4a: но подозреваю, что:
[00:46:54] xa4a: !google букви йи
[00:47:00] xa4a: !google буква йи
[00:47:05] xa4a: эгм
[00:47:12] xa4a: короче из первой ссылки можно копировать)
[00:47:43] xa4a: Typhon: четкие - это походить-посмотреть?
[00:48:51] Typhon: xa4a, не, посидеть для zeromq митапа
[00:48:58] Typhon: выше ссылка есть, будет в субботу, после конфы
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[00:50:54] xa4a: а. вроде, в окрестностях места проведения пикона много пабов разных
[00:50:58] NTAngel: ябать, в яфоны воткнули ГЛОНАСС ))) http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
[00:51:18] xa4a: но там, очевидно, надо бронировать уже сейчас. на вечер субботы-то
[00:51:32] xa4a: Typhon: кажется, прямо напротив есть портер паб
[00:52:05] xa4a: #3 тут http://www.porter.com.ua/places.php
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[01:15:55] xa4a: так эта.. кому-то подтвердили на сайте pycon билет?
[01:18:29] NTAngel: можно ли делать в питоне псевдонимы для импортированных модулей ?
[01:19:06] Typhon: xa4a, почти всем, вроде как. если у тебя проблемы -- пиши гоцюку
[01:19:11] NTAngel: а то я импортирую datetime из datetime и при попытке импортировать из верхнего datetime функцю timedelta получаю что такого не знают (
[01:19:44] Typhon: xa4a, ну вот, даже андрею поппу подтвердили :-) введи ещё раз баркод и напиши гоцюку
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[01:21:22] xa4a: а, там баркод вводить надо было?
[01:21:31] xa4a: /me вводил Номер е-квитка
[01:22:24] Typhon: баркод же, который сбоку
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[01:24:35] Trec: {{ objects.name }} получим значение лежащее в ячейке name, а как получить название поле таблицы, откуда выводяться значения?
[01:24:50] xa4a: ага, баркод помогло Your registration was confirmed. спасибо)
[01:25:04] xa4a: Trec: никак. ты этого не хочашь
[01:25:12] xa4a: NTAngel: да. это в туториале есть
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[01:26:11] NTAngel: from datetime import datetime, timedelta

порядок помоему пох ? )
[01:26:40] NTAngel: шо сначала датутайм, затем таймдельту, шо наоборот. Вроде результат один и тот же
[01:26:55] Trec: xa4a: как бы я этого хочу, но печально что никак, тлела надежда что можно имя поля вызвать как например имя класса можно получать
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[01:27:51] xa4a: если ты действительно хочешь, то может как-то у класса fields.name.db_column
[01:28:00] xa4a: NTAngel: тут ты прав. результат один и тот же
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[02:05:58] NTAngel: Кто на чем сидит? Кто на MBR-разбивке, кто на GPT ?
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[02:07:40] Typhon: "я на седле своего велосипеда, по шесть часов в день" ;-)
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[07:53:13] neoascetic: NTAngel, что тебя все интересует хто на чем сидит?
[07:53:44] neoascetic: NTAngel, по возможному jabber-клиенту определяй :)
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[15:19:16] john_16: Помогите кто может с Mercurial. Линукс, работа из консоли.
Ситуация такова. есть репозиторий, он него сделана копия. Когда для копии дотсупны новые коммиты делаю hg pull и затем hg update. Настает видимо ситуация merge , появляется окно vim с тремя вкладками, на первой оригинальный файл, на втором обновленный файл, третий как бы вроде тоже что и первый.
Собственно как разрулить ситуацию не понимаю, нужо что бы старый файл обновился в соответствии с новым коммитом.
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[15:25:05] mishok13: я меркуриалом давненько не пользовался, но советую поставить meld и в конфиге меркуриала прописать его как merge tool
[15:25:19] mishok13: вот тут подробнее http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MergeProgram
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[15:31:58] огыешсук: А GAE кто юзает?
[15:32:11] огыешсук: Там CACHE_BACKEND какой надо выставлять?
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[15:35:10] john_16: mishok13: ну можно конечно, спасибо за совет. Но пока что хотелось бы с текущей ситуацией справиться.
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[15:59:51] slav0nic: огыешсук, на гае 1 бекенд%)
[16:00:42] slav0nic: john_16,
[ui]
merge = meld
[16:01:04] огыешсук: slav0nic: и таки что в CACHE_BACKEND надо написать?
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[16:01:21] slav0nic: бля, этот параметр есть в ГАЕ? или мы всё же про джангу
[16:01:48] slav0nic: на гае кроме мемкешед вроде нчиего отродясь не было
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[16:02:00] slav0nic: если мы про джангу то там делается через обёртку
[16:02:14] огыешсук: и таки что в CACHE_BACKEND надо написать? я пробовал CACHE_BACKEND = 'memcached://?timeout=0' но оно не заработало
[16:02:26] огыешсук: да, мы про джангу
[16:03:23] slav0nic: а джанга уже из коробки без танцев на гае запускается? возьми всякие хелперы
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[16:03:34] slav0nic: толку от джанги на гае немного
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[16:03:49] john_16: slav0nic: есть такой момент что хотелось бы научиться и с вимом обращаться, так как он консольный и как то из коробки в общем то.
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[16:04:41] slav0nic: john_16, http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MergingWithVim
у меня не срослось)
[16:04:51] огыешсук: да, джанга уже запускается, гугл выкатил sql-нутый баеэнд
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[16:06:03] slav0nic: знаем) ну для бекенда надо мидлварь или свой бекенд сделать, убрав import memcached и заменить на гаешный http://code.google.com/p/google-app-engine-django/ вот было
[16:06:32] slav0nic: из проектов вроде только https://bitbucket.org/wkornewald/djangoappengine живое
[16:06:39] slav0nic: но там всё пытались запислить под датасторедж
[16:07:01] slav0nic: как бы автор себе вены не вскрыл после презентации облачных mysql Ж)
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[16:07:49] slav0nic: огыешсук, а например синкать базу как ты собираешься?)
[16:08:00] slav0nic: там много заковыристых мелочей
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[16:10:25] Trec: {% get_data "new" 4 section %}
"new" - строка
4 - число
section - переменная
два первых передалось, переменная передалась как строка, не отдало значение, что я делаю не так?
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[16:11:16] slav0nic: её надо выбрать из context
[16:11:21] slav0nic: по имени
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[16:12:21] Trec: section = self.section.resolve(context)
в section всё равно "section", значение не получил
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[16:16:08] slav0nic: это какой тег?
[16:16:38] Trec: slav0nic: не понял вопроса
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[16:16:57] slav0nic: ну simple tag , tag и тп
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[16:17:23] Trec: эээээ, temlpatetag
[16:17:27] Trec: оно?
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[16:19:58] slav0nic: @register.XXX ?
короче покажи код
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[16:20:11] john_16: slav0nic: Спасибо большое! ткнул ровно туда куда нужно было.
[16:20:24] slav0nic: пжлст
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[16:27:28] Trec: slav0nic: http://pastebin.com/wPxDCCUy
[16:28:37] slav0nic: гавно какое-то
[16:28:45] slav0nic: template.Variable(section)
[16:28:50] slav0nic: от него уже ресолв сонтекст
[16:28:53] slav0nic: ты доку читал?
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[16:29:05] slav0nic: и try except надо делать по VariableDoesNotExist
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[16:30:18] Trec: да по этому resolve вообще нихера найти не могу
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[17:45:23] Кивсяк: Добрый кагбэ вечер
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[17:46:01] Кивсяк: xmpp-бот на GAE в конфах сидеть не может?
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[18:06:10] Кивсяк: :3
[18:06:31] Кивсяк: Интересно же
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[18:15:21] Trec: почему когда в templatetags передаю параметры, он их принимает, а соотвецтвенно присваивает в другом порядке?
[18:16:06] Trec: неправильно выразился, принимает в другом порядке, соотвецтвенно присваевает не тем переменным
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[18:18:14] Trec: есть разница, передавать цифры, строки, переменные?
[18:18:31] Trec: в порядке следования имею в виду
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