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[10:17:01] Sofcom: xa4a: нихрена твой бот не слушается тебя
[10:19:54] metall1c: долепил таки на django-cms сайт :) http://uzrvrn.ru
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[13:07:55] xa4a: metall1c: http://i.imgur.com/oBrv2.png
[13:08:22] metall1c: xa4a: ага, но верстку не я делал, я вообще вестать не умею
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[13:09:03] xa4a: DEBUG = True. фуфу
[13:09:11] metall1c: сайт был уже раньше, но движок сломался, перестала админка работать, а прошлого кодера уже не найти, вот меня попросили накодить сайт с таким же дизайном, я тупо скопировал цсс и прочее
[13:09:28] metall1c: да, дебаг пока не отключил, не могу пока разобраться со статикой
[13:09:43] metall1c: дебаг отключаешь и ко всей статике в конце слеш добавляется
[13:09:53] metall1c: надо в урлах что-то прописать
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[13:10:00] metall1c: кстати может подскажите
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[13:11:01] xa4a: посмотри, что у тебя в сеттингах менятеся когда выключаешь дебаг
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[13:11:41] metall1c: http://dumpz.org/105269/
[13:11:46] metall1c: это у урлах
[13:11:53] metall1c: убирал условие if settings.DEBUG:
[13:11:57] metall1c: работает
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[13:11:59] metall1c: но кроме админки
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[13:12:27] metall1c: плюс в инете кто-то писал, что юзать django.views.static.serve не правильно, это так?
[13:12:36] xa4a: на продакшне - так
[13:12:46] xa4a: на продакшне статику отдавать самим веб-сервером
[13:13:18] metall1c: т.е. надо в вебсервере прописать эти пути, а в джанге ничего трогать не надо?
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[13:14:05] xa4a: lf
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[13:16:14] metall1c: понятно, погляжу
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[13:16:46] xa4a: а ещё, ссылки в центральном блоке выглядят как из конца 90-х. http://uzrvrn.ru/ru/faq/ тут можно было бы и без перезагрузки страницы подгружать ответы.
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[13:17:07] xa4a: и в подвале блок ваще стрёмный
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[13:18:41] xa4a: например в хтмл выплёвывать сразу вопросы с ответами, но ответы прятать и показывать только когда кликают по вопросу
[13:18:55] xa4a: или как обычно делают - сначала список вопросов, а ниже - вопросы с ответами
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[13:19:05] xa4a: чтобы можно было сразу все вопросы, прокручивая, просмотреть
[13:19:45] metall1c: ну в принципе можно и так, но это сложнее, тут просто было реализовать, тупо ссылки по страницам
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[15:12:23] metall1c: хм..
[15:12:27] metall1c: We strongly recommend using django.contrib.staticfiles to handle the admin files
[15:13:46] xa4a: ну.. это чтобы, если у тебя джанга переедет, не нужно было сервер перенастраивать
[15:13:58] xa4a: ок. админскую статику можешь раздавать джангой)
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[15:25:23] metall1c: :)
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[19:23:58] cutwater: Сволота: а это правда что JavaScript произошел от Lisp ?
[19:25:16] xa4a: скорее от Java
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[19:26:11] cutwater: xa4a: эм... нет просто у меня на собеседовании один ПХПшник заявлял что JavaScript таки произошел от Lisp. Нам смешно но вдруг правда :-D
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[19:27:03] nmk: а ты не спрашивал откуда у него эти знания?
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[19:28:17] Сволота: javascript много от кого произошел, в том числе и от scheme
[19:28:48] nmk: ну кстати
[19:28:55] nmk: Перед Бренданом Айхом, нанятым в компанию Netscape 4 апреля 1995 года[11], была поставлена задача внедрить язык программирования Scheme или что-то похожее в браузер Netscape.
[19:29:03] nmk: это я википедию читаю
[19:29:12] Сволота: cutwater: бери его, он может быть вменяемым
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[19:29:29] Сволота: или хотябы забавным :-D
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[19:29:45] cutwater: Сволота: не взяли он тупой. он на пхп не смог класс написать увы
[19:29:58] nmk: cutwater: а что делал класс?
[19:30:03] nmk: может вы как-то не так спрашиваете :)
[19:30:07] cutwater: хм... хранил два поля x и y
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[19:30:29] Сволота: он писал на бумажке или на ноуте?
[19:30:30] cutwater: nmk: эм... человек синтаксиса не знает ну и т.п.
с PHP 5 он вероятно вообще никогда не встречался.
[19:30:33] cutwater: Сволота: на бумажке
[19:30:38] gigimon: гы
[19:30:43] gigimon: даж я наверно напишу (:
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[19:30:54] nmk: cutwater: а скока денег даете? :)
[19:31:00] Сволота: на бумажке не показатель, на бумажке и я лажаю
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[19:31:15] nmk: Сволота: по бумажке зато видно как думает человек
[19:31:16] gigimon: Сволота: ну не настолько же простом задании
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[19:31:32] cutwater: nmk: ну достаточно даем
[19:31:41] Сволота: gigimon: ну это да
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[19:32:21] Сволота: cutwater: а дополнительные жабоскриптеры вам в штат не нужны?
[19:32:42] cutwater: Нет
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[19:32:53] cutwater: Сволота: только пхпшники со знанием JS
[19:33:48] Сволота: а где разделение труда?
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[19:34:00] nmk: cutwater: а следующее задание какое было бы?
[19:34:06] cutwater: перейти на Python
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[19:35:05] cutwater: nmk: на бумажке ну обычно простенькие задачки задаем. на знание синтаксиса, базовых конструкций и т.п. максимум реализовать простейший алгоритм.
[19:35:28] cutwater: ни один кандидат на бумажке реверс строки на пхп так и не реализовал без ошибок
[19:35:52] nmk: гм. надо как-то оптимально это сделать?
[19:35:58] nmk: или же просто один цикл?
[19:36:02] cutwater: Пофигу же
[19:36:08] nmk: ээээ.
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[19:36:30] nmk: я правильно все понимаю, что это один цикл, исходная строка и еще одна переменная?
[19:36:35] cutwater: Ну типа того
[19:36:48] nmk: эм
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[19:36:53] cutwater: Внезапно среднестатистический пхпшник не может ее реализовать без ошибок с первого раза.
[19:37:08] cutwater: 1 из 4х таки реализовал близко к правильному
[19:37:18] cutwater: 3 остальных написали феерический писец
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[19:38:32] nmk: ща я доку открыл. типа как-то так?
$out = ''; for ($i = strlen($s); $i >= 0; $i--) {$out += $s[$i]}
[19:39:08] cutwater: типа того.
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[19:39:35] cutwater: ну так как в PHP строки не константные можно обойтись еще циклом не по всей длинне а до половины и сделать swap
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[19:40:12] cutwater: Как один из вариантов решения.
[19:41:00] cutwater: nmk: вобщем нам нужны Python, PHP, C Linux программисты
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[19:42:04] cutwater: PHPшники нужны временно, потом пересадим их на питон
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[21:12:03] Tony: cutwater, сам то в это веришь?)
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[21:13:04] Tony: кстати грамотного пхпшника вычислить просто. грамотный это тот который знает как работает сессия в php изкоробки.
[21:13:15] Tony: ну либо вообще любая сессия
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