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[03:14:34] downshft: оке, celery это круто, но к нему тоже есть пару вопросов... мой приемник должен быть периодичным заданием, например? если да то как менять таймауты в случае чего... с другой стороны если запускать одно задание из другого (Ну типа зафетчили, поставили в очередь и т.п.) то это как-то все так связанно стает что в случае падения чего все и посыпется... короче тоже как-то не очень приятно выглядит, если чесно. для простого да, конечно супер, но такие вот структуры с эскалациями...
[03:15:17] downshft: с другой стороны я конечно могу эти таски и из тредов запускать, но это уже типа перебор помоему....
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[14:48:34] nmk: ты растение что-ли, что бы прижеваться? :P
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[14:53:42] xzenya: периодически превращаюсь в кактус
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[15:02:31] огыешсук: а какого вы пола?
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[15:04:13] xzenya: мужики, слово xenia писалось бы так. А то многие путают))
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[17:08:03] Jeiz: всем нян
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[17:08:24] xzenya: прювет
[17:08:24] Jeiz: у меня тут такой вопрос, что я даже не знаю как его задать гуглу
[17:08:55] Jeiz: как сделать, что-то вроде такого
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[17:09:08] Jeiz: for x in range(20):
[17:09:57] Typhon: примерно так:
for x in range(20): %)
[17:10:14] Jeiz: bx(x берётся из цикла)=x
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[17:15:15] Sevenov: ёу, тут чонить вообще меняется?
[17:15:18] Sevenov: Хм.
[17:15:22] Sevenov: django — говно.
[17:16:09] nott: Jeiz, thismodule = sys.modules[__name__]; setattr(thismodule, "b%d" % x, x)

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[17:48:15] xa4a: locals() / globals()
[17:48:17] xa4a: но ты этого не хочешь
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[18:02:17] Jeiz: thismodule = sys.modules[__name__];
setattr(thismodule, "b%d" % x, x)
так что-то я не понял, что делает этот код
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[18:03:25] xa4a: зачем ты хочешь это делать?
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[18:04:50] Jeiz: ну мне хочется странного
[18:04:59] Jeiz: что бы программа писала сама себя
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[18:07:06] gigimon: xa4a: ты ж целери крутил?
[18:07:20] Typhon: вертел ^_^
[18:07:40] xa4a: gigimon: нет. старался избегать всеми силами
[18:07:41] gigimon: я как понимаю, task.delay() не возвращает ничего, чтобы следить за статусом таска?
[18:07:46] gigimon: черт
[18:07:52] gigimon: ну думаю кто-то шарит
[18:08:03] gigimon: Typhon: крутил?
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[18:09:27] Typhon: не, "вертел" — это в смысле, на чём-либо вертел %)
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[18:10:33] gigimon: блин
[18:10:41] gigimon: все говорят, но никто не юзал
[18:10:43] gigimon: что ж такое
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[18:19:00] dpwiz: А оно разве вообще юзабельно?
[18:19:12] dpwiz: Хотя Ask в интернетах за неё всех готов порвать (=
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[18:29:21] nmk: gigimon: :returns celery.result.AsyncResult:
[18:29:30] nmk: но я уже про новый сельдерей ничего не знаю
[18:29:46] gigimon: да вот в доке тож нашел
[18:29:53] gigimon: но тогда не понимаю, почему не возвращает ничего
[18:29:55] gigimon: но задача идет
[18:30:00] gigimon: правда я юзаю subtask
[18:30:51] nmk: вот таких слов я уже не знаю ;)
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[18:48:43] timophey01 is now Плохо быть слепым сироткой. По возможности избегайте этого. (с)
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[18:57:43] Tony: gigimon, зачем тебе следить за статусом таска?
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[18:58:36] gigimon: да незачем
[18:58:40] gigimon: просто столкнулся, удивился
[18:58:45] gigimon: решил спросить)
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[18:59:10] Tony: как я понимаю delay() должно возвращать что-то вроде result
[18:59:35] Tony: только вроде надо что-то передавать вроде return_result или что-то вроде того
[18:59:41] Tony: чтобы таск не просто делей и ушел в фон
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[18:59:53] Tony: а именно знал что надо что-то выкинуть. я уже не помню как конкретно к сожалению
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[19:03:15] xa4a: >>> refresh_feed.delay("http://example.com/rss") # Async
<AsyncResult: 8998d0f4-da0b-4669-ba03-d5ab5ac6ad5d>

[19:03:20] xa4a: http://ask.github.com/celery/reference/celery.task.html
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[19:13:00] gigimon: та не
[19:13:02] gigimon: все правильно
[19:13:12] gigimon: я незнаю почему, но в моем случае не возвращает ничего
[19:13:17] gigimon: попробовал на тестовой задаче пустой
[19:13:18] gigimon: все ок вернул
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[19:17:34] xa4a: ты что-то делаешь не так
[19:17:46] xa4a: ты переопределил delay() и забыл вернуть результат
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[19:19:06] gigimon: да не переопределял я его)
[19:19:09] gigimon: да забудьте
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[19:19:16] gigimon: вроде поправилось
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[20:14:50] ad3w: доброго всем
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[20:19:10] ad3w: кто подскажет по валидации модели? нужно сделать проверку, что пользователь сам себе плюс не поставил. сделал вот так (в модели): https://gist.github.com/44c1a635c42064624a71 , но тогда работает
[20:19:27] ad3w: только эта валидация, а при срабатывании других - No exception supplied
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[20:20:14] xa4a: super
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[20:22:14] xa4a: не ясно, что за No exception supplied
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[20:22:43] ad3w: да, я пробовал как в save() сделать, не вышло)
[20:23:03] xa4a: если убираешь def clean(), то работает как надо?
[20:23:07] ad3w: да
[20:23:24] ad3w: если добавляю, то хавает только этот эксепшн, а на остальных эта ошибка
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[20:25:13] xa4a: тогда super
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[20:26:48] ad3w: если вместо кода метода поставить pass, то ок
[20:26:56] ad3w: проблема в строке, где сравнение
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[20:28:46] ad3w: заменить на 1 == 2 все ок
[20:29:16] xa4a: тогда опиши сначала свою проблему
[20:29:34] xa4a: с трейсбеами
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[20:36:16] ad3w: спасибо, понял в чем проблема была
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[21:19:02] Tony: вот нахуй в redis очередь?
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[21:49:12] downshft: поцаны немного перфекционизма. часто замечаю как серьезные люди пишут def __init__(self): ParentClass.__init__(self ... ; понимаю, что super тут грубо говоря не всегда применим, но почему я обычно пишу super(Class, self).__init ... я делаю правильно или что-то упускаю?
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[22:04:28] ad3w: вот что-то по теме http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Python/comp.lang.python/2006-02/msg01325.html
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[22:05:38] downshft: о, спасибо
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[22:06:29] downshft: ну короче все как я и думал
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[22:08:44] downshft: не понятно только почему супер рекомендуют в блилиантовом наследовании, кагбэ наоборот надо лол
[22:09:33] downshft: ну и инфа там чуток устаревшая, короче ладно
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[22:11:22] xa4a: надо писать super всегда
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[22:11:40] xa4a: def __init__(self): ParentClass.__init__(self ломает множественное наследование
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[22:12:23] xa4a: downshft: ^
[22:12:30] Jeiz: как узнать собственное имя функции?
[22:12:36] Jeiz: ну то есть имя неизвестно
[22:12:41] xa4a: Jeiz: никак. у функции может быть не одно имя
[22:12:41] Jeiz: но надо его узнать
[22:12:47] xa4a: def f(): pass
[22:12:50] xa4a: g = f
[22:12:51] xa4a: g()
[22:12:57] downshft: xa4a: это я и хотел услышать ^_^
[22:12:59] xa4a: если изнутри
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[22:13:11] Jeiz: мне изнутри надо
[22:13:18] ad3w: вот еще пару линков)
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/576169/understanding-python-super-and-init-methods
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/222877/how-to-use-super-in-python
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[22:13:27] Jeiz: я же могу сделать так
[22:13:38] xa4a: Jeiz: ты можешь поковырять стек, ага
[22:13:41] Jeiz: print(имя.___name___)
[22:13:45] downshft: Jeiz: но зачем, может просто ссылку на нее передашь?
[22:13:59] downshft: или так тоже нельзя? я хз короче :)
[22:14:10] Jeiz: нет мне надо будет её сравнить
[22:14:14] Jeiz: безумный план короче
[22:14:23] xa4a: Jeiz: def f(): pass; g=f; g() какое тут имя должно быть?
[22:14:24] downshft: ссылку и сравнишь...
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[22:14:47] Jeiz: со строкой?
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[22:15:01] downshft: ну а теперь хороший расскажи зачем тебе это нужно
[22:15:03] xa4a: короче, import inspect
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[22:15:43] Jeiz: ну я тут в цикле создал много разных функций
[22:15:45] xa4a: !pydoc inspect.stack
[22:15:49] Jeiz: мне бы их име получить
[22:16:09] xa4a: Jeiz: "в цикле создал функций" у тебя, с высокой вероятностью там баг
[22:16:20] downshft: зачем ты их создал в цикле и зачем тебе их имя
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[22:16:37] Jeiz: какой там баг?
[22:16:41] Jeiz: они простые
[22:16:53] Jeiz: делаю безумную программу же
[22:16:53] xa4a: баг с замыканием переменных из скоупа цикла
[22:17:24] downshft: я не понимат как ты их создал в цикле с разными и менами?
[22:17:34] Jeiz: exec же
[22:17:38] downshft: ебать
[22:17:40] xa4a: >_<
[22:17:46] xa4a: Jeiz: зачем ты это делаешь?
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[22:18:01] Jeiz: for fun
[22:18:01] xa4a: ты сначала соорудил костыль, а теперь хочешь второй костыль, чтобы первый обойти
[22:18:08] xa4a: это не питонично же
[22:18:09] Jeiz: да знаю я
[22:18:17] xa4a: тогда давай код
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[22:18:46] xa4a: (если inspect.stack() не достаточно)
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[22:21:29] Jeiz: http://dumpz.org/111152/
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[22:21:32] Jeiz: как-то так
[22:22:12] xa4a: креативненько
[22:22:59] Jeiz: вот теперь мне надо узнать имя функции и сравнивать её
[22:23:06] Jeiz: что бы дальше идти
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[22:24:02] xa4a: кстати, а пароль какой?
[22:24:35] Jeiz: а блин
[22:24:40] Jeiz: я думал это для удаления
[22:24:43] Jeiz: 29760a
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[22:25:31] xa4a: а почему ты не сделал список функций/кнопок?
[22:25:49] xa4a: замыкания - твои друзья
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[22:27:56] xa4a: http://dumpz.org/111157/
[22:28:02] xa4a: чем так не подходит?
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[22:30:36] Jeiz: ну почему не подходит
[22:30:51] Jeiz: просто так не интересно
[22:30:57] Jeiz: слишком просто
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