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[15:46:19] aries.ua: Народ кто нить делал загрузку картинок и термометр к нему?
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[16:12:16] gigimon: что значит термомерт
[16:12:19] gigimon: а загрузку делал каждый
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[16:18:22] aries.ua: Да надо при загрузке картинки POST аяксом показывать индикатор загрузки
[16:18:41] aries.ua: Все отправляется, а вот индикатор не получается :(
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[17:04:26] k_s: Всем привет
[17:05:08] k_s: посоветуйте - куда копать. хочу перехватывать все переходы по ссылкам в браузере
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[17:05:37] k_s: ну и ответы
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[17:20:01] gigimon: k_s: тебе нужен сниффер
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[17:24:37] k_s: gigimon: аэээ
я почему-то это себе представлял как WebView + копание в его методах и том из чего он состоит - нельзя так?
[17:25:19] gigimon: что есть webview?
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[17:25:40] gigimon: у возможно расширение для браузера написать можно такое
[17:25:41] gigimon: я хз
[17:25:49] gigimon: но если тебе все все, то только сниффер)
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[17:26:07] k_s: ну штука в PyQt, которая использует свободный движок(не помню, какой), который использует мозилла
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[17:26:32] gigimon: мозилла не юзает webkit
[17:26:36] k_s: не
[17:26:42] k_s: webkit юзает тот же движок
[17:26:45] k_s: на котором стоит мозилла
[17:26:53] k_s: поэтому из него мб как-то перхватывать что-то можно
[17:26:57] k_s: вопрос - что и как
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[17:29:10] gigimon: спорим?
[17:29:15] k_s: )
[17:29:16] gigimon: что вебкит мозилла не юзает
[17:29:22] k_s: да блин
[17:29:30] gigimon: перехватывать из 1 браузера другие запросы?
[17:29:31] gigimon: хаха
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[17:29:39] k_s: брр
[17:29:47] k_s: хочу перехватывать все переходы по ссылкам в браузере
[17:29:50] k_s: т.е. я кликнул на ссылку
[17:30:02] gigimon: по ссылкам в твоем браузере?
[17:30:07] gigimon: или любом другом
[17:30:07] k_s: да, конечно
[17:30:14] gigimon: ану тогда копай в qt
[17:30:20] gigimon: если ты его на qt-wenkit делашеь
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[17:32:11] gigimon: я незнаю
[17:32:14] gigimon: не делал никогда
[17:32:17] k_s: :[
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[23:06:13] ad3w: может кто ни будь объяснить по валидации в джанго? как следует правильно делать? всю валидацию через формы?
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[23:08:12] Tony: все что формы должно быть в формах
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[23:09:21] ad3w: а как сделать нормальную валидацию вне форм? т. е. чисто на уровне моделей
[23:09:45] cutwater: э?
[23:09:56] ad3w: допустим, блог, где есть +1. нужно проверить, что человек еще не жал ее
[23:10:08] cutwater: на уровне бизнес-логики
[23:10:17] cutwater: то есть *КОД ПИШИ КОД*
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[23:12:05] ad3w: я делал в методе clean модели, но что-то все валидации там игнорировались, если создавать объект напрямую
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[23:13:17] ad3w: получается только создать форму на основе модели и через нее сохранять. но форма то здесь не нужна
[23:13:48] cutwater: ad3w: тут форма вообще не нужна. напиши запрос в базу во вьюхе и передай параметр в шаблон
[23:13:49] cutwater: все
[23:14:00] cutwater: это уже к валидации относится слабо
[23:14:21] ad3w: да, я так и делал
[23:14:31] cutwater: ну и в чем проблема?
[23:14:49] ad3w: но прежде чем сохранить объект мне нужно убедиться, что этот пользователь до этого не плюсовал
[23:15:03] ad3w: я вынес это в метод clean модели
[23:15:25] cutwater: ты выедаешь мне мозг.
еще раз форма там не нужна.
[23:15:40] ad3w: где я сказал про форму?
[23:15:58] cutwater: выносить в метод clean pfxtv&
[23:16:01] cutwater: зачем?
[23:16:15] cutwater: написать просто if религия не позволяет7
[23:16:36] ad3w: ну это вроде как во view не нужно проверять?
[23:16:57] cutwater: хм... ну а почему бы и нет
[23:17:27] ad3w: а если захочу через админку сохранить?)
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[23:17:39] cutwater: ок. даже если так,в чем проблема?
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[23:18:10] ad3w: хочу чтобы при сохранении объекта CustomModel(invalid data) ничего не сохранялось
[23:18:54] cutwater: ну выбрось exception из метода clean
[23:19:48] cutwater: ValidationError
[23:19:51] ad3w: вот я про что и спрашивл. где правильно реализовывать это?
[23:20:13] ad3w: в методе clean модели, или во вьюшке прямо написать
[23:20:20] ad3w: вот что хотел узнать)
[23:20:32] cutwater: где тебе удобней. насколько я понимаю можно использовать оба варианта
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[23:21:30] ad3w: ок, спасиб)
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[23:23:13] ad3w: стоп. а если сделать так: написать форму с валидациями, во вьюшке сохранять через нее и ее же подключить к админке
[23:24:21] ad3w: получится валидации в одном месте, работает и там и там. но смущает использование формы там где ее фактически нет, только для валидации
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[23:39:25] ad3w: clean подошел. проблема была в том, что он сам не вызывает метод full_clean - нужно вручную
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