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[15:15:04] Александр: привет
[15:15:08] Александр: есть вопрос по AutoOneToOneField
[15:15:18] Александр: и пользовательским профилям
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[15:16:23] Александр: как менее затратно создавать пользовательский профиль, если он зависит от некоторых данных, переданных в объекте request?
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[15:18:39] Александр: есть идеи? :-)
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[15:46:44] Александр: заворачивать request в мидлваре в thread locals?
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[16:14:22] xa4a: в чём пробелма?
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[16:21:48] Александр: в том что профиль зависит о перемнных в request
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[16:22:17] Александр: т.е. у одного пользователя может быть несколько профилей, в зависимости от субдомена
[16:22:40] Александр: сейчас профиль создается с помощью AutoOneToOne field
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[16:24:30] Александр: пока в голову пришла только мидлваря, которая будет при каждом запросе дергать базу. Либо каким-то образом давать доступ к request для AutoOneToOne
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[16:44:18] xa4a: а..
[16:45:07] xa4a: если хочешь магии - threadlocals самое то
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[17:05:58] Pymin: ребята подскажите
[17:06:05] Pymin: import random
userchoice = int (raw_input("Kol-vo simvolov v parole: "))
i = 0
password = ''
symbols = ['q','w','e','r','t','y','u','i','o','p','s','a','d','f','g','h','j','k','l','z','x','c','v','b','n','m','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','8','9']
while i<userchoice:
tempsymbol = ''
tempsymbol += random.choice(symbols)
temp = random.randint(0,1)
if temp == 1:
password += tempsymbol.upper()
else:
password += tempsymbol
i += 1
print password
[17:06:38] Pymin: как сделать чтобы после ввода программа не закрывалась а работала дальше, пока вручную не закроют
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[17:18:12] xa4a: что значит работала дальше?
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[17:19:23] cutwater: Утро
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[17:19:26] cutwater: ойлоло
[17:20:01] xa4a: Pymin: большинство твоего кода не нужно
[17:20:04] xa4a: ''.join(random.sample(string.ascii_lowercase + string.digits), userchoice))
[17:20:06] cutwater: Pymin: ну первый вопрос а ты действительно этого хочешь? второй вопрос что ты под этим подразумеваешь
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[17:25:21] cutwater: хм... интересный товарщи
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[17:39:17] pymin: я тут
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[17:39:56] pymin: я хотел чтобы можно было и дальше генерировать пароли. А не закрывать, открывать ради 1 генерации
[17:42:19] ds.tihonov is now дома! :)
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[17:44:01] nott: while True:
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[17:53:50] pymin: в каком месте ?
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[17:55:58] cutwater: pymin: а подумать?
[17:56:22] cutwater: pymin: вообще по хорошему для этого есть циклы в bash =) или добавить опцию командной строки
[17:56:26] cutwater: дай мне 5 паролей
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[18:18:26] pymin: да я новичок
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[18:30:10] pymin: просто я хотел программу, котоая бы: генерировала пароли, можео было указать сколько символов, количество паролей, и маску паролей. Но реализовать не могу сейчас
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[19:33:34] supername: парни, а есть питон для андройда. Возможность писать програмы
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[19:34:45] xa4a: спасибо за информацию
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[19:49:55] cutwater: supername: возможно есть но зачем?
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[19:51:21] downshft: [django] вот есть generic relation, тоесть сущности в админке нужно собирать через inlines, но у сущности которая должна быть inline у самой есть inlines, тоесть не катит... да и не кретично, но можно же как-то представить это в виде manytomany поля, чтоб был список и возможность создавать в новом окне сущности?
[19:52:10] cutwater: supername: у андроида есть нормальная джава + апи. нафига туда еще впихивать невпихуемое
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[19:54:19] supername: ну к примеру я не знаю жаву и не хочу ее учить. Но хочу иметь возможность делать софт в будущем для андройд
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[19:56:09] cutwater: бедняжка
[19:56:21] downshft: не знаю, не хочу, но хочу иметь возможность
[19:57:16] supername: зачем мне ява, если я технолог? я выбрал для себя тот язык который требует меньше времени и легче поддается
[19:57:53] downshft: программист выбрал язык
[19:58:04] downshft: я выбрал легче
[19:58:09] downshft: я хочу иметь возможность
[19:58:11] downshft: будущее
[19:58:14] downshft: меньше времени, легче поддается
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[19:58:39] downshft: короче залупон с этими инлайнами, как обычно...
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[20:00:27] cutwater: supername: то есть ты выбираешь типичный пхпподход? знаю питон и больше развиваться не хочу?
[20:00:27] supername: я изучаю питон в свободное время. Я не программист, это скорее увлечение. И мне интересно можно ли полученное использовать для программирования в андройд. Вот и все.
[20:00:43] cutwater: ты то конечно можешь, но практической пользы от этого немного
[20:01:37] supername: То есть лдя андройд только ява?
[20:01:49] cutwater: теоретически туда можно влепить и питон.
[20:02:05] cutwater: но пользы от него примерно столько же как и от питона на симбе.
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[20:02:33] supername: А вот ява котоая ставилась на обычные телефона (всякие там jimm итд.) то что на андройд - это то же самое?
[20:02:39] cutwater: нет
[20:03:27] cutwater: на симбе там была Java ME, это в принципе тот же язык, но с некоторыми оговорками ну и очень урезаными библиотеками и возможностями.
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[20:04:30] cutwater: supername: тут тебе более менее полноценная виртуальная машина + Android SDK, хотя естественно оракловых родных пакетов там нет.
[20:04:42] supername: у меня остались не очень хорошие после этого впечатления о яве, так как это сильно тормозило, вылетало и жрало огого
[20:04:53] downshft: на виртуалке?
[20:04:53] cutwater: supername: эм... может быть ты просто ниасилил
[20:04:58] downshft: скорее да
[20:05:04] supername: я про телефоны
[20:05:08] downshft: там от явы ничего не было в конечном итоге
[20:05:12] cutwater: а по телефонам.... ну это был полный писец
[20:05:14] downshft: ты же не думаешь что на телефонах работала жвм????
[20:05:20] downshft: я писал под ж2ме все летало
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[20:05:42] cutwater: андроиды вполне позволяют себе запускать полноценный жвм. ну опять таки с оговорками
[20:05:49] downshft: ну да, я про ж2ме
[20:05:55] cutwater: угу
[20:05:59] downshft: от жавы там грубо говоря только синтаксис и был
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[20:05:59] supername: на си же вроде тоже можно под анройда
[20:06:04] cutwater: да все можно
[20:06:07] downshft: supername: ну под линукс что можно?
[20:06:08] cutwater: вопрос только зачем?
[20:06:14] downshft: то и под андроид можно
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[20:06:16] downshft: грубо говоря
[20:06:29] supername: под линукс можно на питоне многое
[20:06:42] cutwater: то есть те же ребята что квикофис пишут им возможно и имеет смысл держать общий код для нескольких платформ на си
[20:06:44] supername: вот
[20:06:49] cutwater: а интерфейсы писать родные
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[20:07:04] downshft: supername: а под виндовс?
[20:07:13] downshft: supername: а где больше можно под линукс или виндовс? трололо
[20:07:19] cutwater: но если выбирать между извращениями и родной системой я сначала изучил бы родной SDK а потом уже навешивал извращения
[20:07:22] supername: пож виндовс не знаю
[20:07:52] cutwater: supername: а щас ты выглядишь как типичный пхп-школоло который сует php (python) во все дыры.
[20:08:13] supername: я не знаю пых
[20:08:32] supername: И подскажите еще намного а ли ява в дейтствительности сложнее чем python и требует намного больше времени на вникание ?
[20:08:49] cutwater: хм... в зависимости от твоего интеллекта
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[20:09:18] supername: ну с учетом что я с программированием почти что на вы
[20:09:34] cutwater: либо слишком сложно либо так же одинаково сложно.
[20:09:35] downshft: думаю с жавой будет даже легче чем с питоном
[20:09:43] cutwater: downshft: думаю не принципиально
[20:09:48] downshft: если сильно не вникать, открыл апи и пошол
[20:10:02] cutwater: все императивные языки имеют более менее схожие принципы, похожую реализацию ООП и т.п.
[20:10:10] cutwater: supername: вот если бы ты попробовал Lisp
[20:10:24] downshft: говоря о том же ж2ме я на нем писать начал явы в глаза не видя, говоря о том же питоне, прочитал 4 страницы туториала по джанго и начал делать. ничего про питон не зная вообще
[20:10:30] supername: ну хотелось бы знать поплярный язык
[20:10:43] downshft: язык знать нельзя, надо знать что? правильно, алгоритмы и структуры данных лол
[20:10:54] downshft: потомучто что? правильно, алгоритмы + структуры данных = программы
[20:11:08] downshft: опечатался немного но похер
[20:11:16] supername: ну тогда изучать
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[20:45:25] xa4a: все потроллили и убежали
[20:45:29] xa4a: языки знать полезно
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[20:48:21] supername: да я хочу какой-нибудь 1, чтобы универсальный был если возможно. В этом плане и понравился питон
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[21:10:01] Tony: supername: ну с учетом что я с программированием почти что на вы // тогда не важно что ты будешь делать, все будут выходить вместо букв раздавленные дождевые черви
[21:10:23] Tony: долгое время пока не набьешь шишек и хотя бы не научишься отличать говно от не говна
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[21:16:38] supername: ну вот я выбираю питон или яву уж
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[21:45:56] cutwater: supername: что-то одно на все случаи жизни выбрать все равно не получится
[21:46:23] cutwater: язык - это инструмент. не получится отверткой одинаково закручивать любые винты.
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[21:58:36] xa4a: для андроида - яву
[21:58:44] cutwater: +100500
[21:58:47] xa4a: /thread
[21:58:54] cutwater: WIN
[21:59:21] cutwater: для desktop / server python + C / C++
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[22:02:19] xa4a: для десктоп - C#/.Net я бы сказал. для сервера - разное бывает...
[22:02:39] cutwater: десктоп бывает не виндовым
[22:02:51] xa4a: Да?
[22:02:56] xa4a: тогда это workstation
[22:02:56] cutwater: угу
[22:03:14] cutwater: ну ладно терминосрач опустим.
[22:03:37] cutwater: для server да разное.
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[23:16:47] supername: а это куда ставить хоть ''.join(random.sample(string.ascii_lowercase + string.digits)
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[23:26:14] xa4a: supername: между i = 0 и i += 1
[23:26:18] xa4a: (включительно)
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[23:27:11] cutwater: :-)
[23:27:25] cutwater: я тащусь от таких вопросов
[23:28:10] xa4a: куда вставить? Гусары, молчать!
[23:28:58] supername: не не получается генератор
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[23:29:31] cutwater: ээээ
[23:29:45] xa4a: supername: значит где-то ошика
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[23:29:50] xa4a: б
[23:29:54] cutwater: xa4a: капитан =)
[23:30:11] supername: ага. Везде
[23:30:30] cutwater: ну обычно она в ДНК.
[23:30:34] cutwater: supername: покажи код
[23:30:58] cutwater: попробуй если не понимаешь выполнить его по частям
[23:31:04] cutwater: запиши алгоритм на бумажке как советовали
[23:31:12] supername: так я уже рпиводил код.ничего не изменилось.
[23:31:38] cutwater: supername: тогда рассказывай что не работает. =)
[23:31:49] cutwater: еще раз приведи и лучше на pastebin
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[23:35:49] supername: ===
import random
userchoice = int (raw_input("Kol-vo simvolov v parole: "))
i = 0
password = ''
symbols = ['q','w','e','r','t','y','u','i','o','p','s','a','d','f','g','h','j','k','l','z','x','c','v','b','n','m','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','8','9']
while i<userchoice:
tempsymbol = ''
tempsymbol += random.choice(symbols)
temp = random.randint(0,1)
if temp == 1:
password += tempsymbol.upper()
else:
password += tempsymbol
i += 1
print password
==
[23:36:33] cutwater: supername: сказал же на пастебин ну
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[23:37:55] cutwater: supername: так что собстна не получилось?
[23:38:11] cutwater: и кстати xa4a уже сказал на что заменить код\
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[23:40:58] supername: ну да. Только что именно заменить. я не разбираюсь же
[23:41:31] cutwater: ты делаешь меня плакать кровавыми слезами
[23:41:33] cutwater: ну так разберись
[23:41:59] supername: ну черег полгода мне этот генератор и не нужен будет
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[23:42:18] cutwater: ну хреново тебе знач
[23:43:59] supername: и еще хотелось бы чтобы после генерации программа предлагала еще раз это сделать, а не завершалась
[23:44:18] cutwater: и на этот вопрос ты уже ответ получил
[23:44:39] cutwater: хочешь чтобы за тебя написали? ну ведь даже уже написали. ты предлагаешь тебе разжевывать по каждому поводу что делать с этим кодом?
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[23:45:08] supername: именно
[23:45:28] cutwater: и зачем бы нам это делать?
[23:45:40] supername: а зачем эта конфа
[23:45:53] cutwater: репетиторство 25$ в час, первый час 100$
[23:46:11] supername: лучше уж английский
[23:46:13] cutwater: xa4a: а тут можно переходить наличности хамить и материться?
[23:46:31] xa4a: лучше в приват
[23:46:35] cutwater: окей
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[23:48:00] supername: даже открывать не охота
[23:48:14] cutwater: :-( а я старался.
[23:49:00] supername: да уж
[23:49:04] cutwater: supername: вот тебе реальный совет. открой учебник. прочитай его от корки до корки. и потом задавай вопросы. за тебя тебе разжевывать никто не будет.
[23:49:21] supername: нет учебника
[23:49:39] cutwater: supername: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
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[23:49:50] supername: не знаю англ
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[23:50:13] cutwater: тогда тебе стоит всерьез задуматься над тем, что ты не хочешь изучать программирование.
[23:50:43] supername: мне английский не дается
[23:50:52] cutwater: и программирование
[23:51:08] cutwater: это печально. но тут поможет только госпитализация.
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[23:53:54] aries.ua: гы гы гы... Парни, да у вас сегодня прям героическое терпение :)
[23:54:05] aries.ua: Помнится, меня вы просто послали на х..й :)
[23:54:46] cutwater: понедельник. начало недели. настроение хорошее
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