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[05:10:54] alexey-grom: Как настроить авторазмер для QLabel чтобы он сам сжимался до минимума?
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[14:00:19] aries.ua: Народ, подскажите в какиу сторону копать. Есть примитивная задача. Надо на сервере перезапускать апач. Но рутового доступа у меня нет. Но админ готов повесить скрипт, и когда мне надо скрипт будет ребутить апач.
[14:00:51] aries.ua: Была мысль тупо в крон повесить скрипт, который проверял бы наличие файла, если есть - перезапускает апач и файл убивает
[14:01:01] aries.ua: Но не нравится такой вариант
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[14:01:51] aries.ua: Есть, но только клиентский доступ
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[14:02:06] aries.ua: От него апач не ребутнуть
[14:02:08] zunkree: sudo только на рестарт апача и все дела
[14:02:34] aries.ua: Не, не дадут :(
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[14:03:20] zunkree: ну или вариант со скриптом в кроне, третьего не вижу что-бы особо не извращаться
[14:03:42] zunkree: ну и с флагом
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[14:04:54] aries.ua: а можно через сокеты?
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[14:08:22] aries.ua: ну повесить сервер, который бы слушал порт локальный. Ну а ему скармливать команды. На него можно не только апач ребутить
[14:08:32] aries.ua: ну или демон там
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[14:09:56] Сволота: апач такой надёжный что его необходимо ребутать?
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[14:11:18] xa4a: aries.ua: зачем ребутать апач?
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[14:12:07] aries.ua: да на продакшен когда заливаю новые данные иногда приходится ребутить апач :( Это печалит
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[14:12:20] xa4a: aries.ua: ты что-то делаешь не так
[14:12:25] xa4a: ты не используешь wsgi?
[14:12:29] xa4a: и mod_sgi
[14:12:34] xa4a: mod_wsgi
[14:12:42] xa4a: и да, проще какой-то демон сделать, типа if [ -f /tmp/kill_apache ] then sudo service apache2 restart; rm /tmp/kill_apache; fi или как оно там в баше
[14:12:46] aries.ua: юзается mod_wsgi
[14:13:02] xa4a: тогда достаточно touch file.wsgi и оно само перегрузит приложение твоё
[14:13:04] aries.ua: да это была первая мысль
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[14:13:26] aries.ua: touch file.wsgi - а что это за команда?
[14:13:32] xa4a: нуэ...
[14:13:59] xa4a: она обновит atime (может mtime?) .wsgi файла
[14:14:10] aries.ua: не знал :)
[14:14:17] xa4a: http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ReloadingSourceCode
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[14:55:27] webninja: да, норм. тема
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[16:23:25] webninja: xa4a ты в гугле работаешь?
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[16:25:41] xa4a: webninja: я
[16:25:53] webninja: да ладно? серьезно?
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[16:26:17] xa4a: /me весь такой серьёзный
[16:26:32] webninja: no shit?
[16:26:55] xa4a: /me передёрнул пару-тройку тыщ серверов, чтобы помигать главной
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[16:27:11] webninja: блин )
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[16:28:11] xa4a: а что?)
[16:28:22] webninja: да хз интересно
[16:28:38] xa4a: да
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[16:29:01] webninja: а чем там занимаешь?
[16:29:06] webninja: занимаешься
[16:29:23] xa4a: читаю, пишу имейлы, хожу на митинги, слушаю тех-толки..
[16:29:26] xa4a: а, ем бесплатную еду
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[16:30:41] xa4a: когда совсем скучно - делаю 20% проект
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[16:31:04] webninja: хех
[16:31:11] webninja: на python?
[16:31:25] xa4a: да
[16:31:32] webninja: ух, крут
[16:31:34] xa4a: тут python, c++ иногда баш и жаба
[16:31:43] xa4a: я до плюсов пока не добрался
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[16:33:51] gigimon: xa4a: а 20% проект должен быть в рамках гугла или любой свой?
[16:34:02] gigimon: xa4a: если не секрет, что пишешь7
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[17:07:59] xa4a: gigimon: 20% +- в рамках своих обязанностей. ну или какие-то общественно-полезные тулзы
[17:08:07] xa4a: я - ничего :(
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[17:08:35] gigimon: xa4a: у, а я думал любой свой проект
[17:08:53] xa4a: думаю, можно и любой свой, возем-та
[17:08:54] gigimon: xa4a: ты уже гугловые сервисы писал? или пока изучение либ?
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[17:09:24] webninja: да, раскрой нам все секреты =)
[17:09:26] xa4a: писал. мне вот по приходу дали проект "для разгона". его вот закодил
[17:09:42] xa4a: внутренний
[17:09:54] xa4a: ну как бы.. я SRE - так что внешних продуктов не пишу
[17:10:00] xa4a: всё так - по инфраструктуре
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[17:10:54] xa4a: http://research.google.com/pubs/archive/32583.pdf - что делает sre
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[17:11:51] xa4a: и да, we're hiring)
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[17:14:23] webninja: ты в россии работаешь?
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[17:36:10] огыешсук: xa4a: у вас там правда питон не просто для галочки?
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[17:40:46] xa4a: webninja: в дублине
[17:40:54] xa4a: огыешсук: да, питона много
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[17:50:13] огыешсук: а для чего вы его используете?
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[17:50:45] Darth Лис: на http://railsberry.com/ никто не собирается?
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[17:51:00] xa4a: огыешсук: скрипты, гхм.. администрирование, во многом
[17:51:23] огыешсук: /me делал на питоне veryhighload-бакэнд для verizon navigator и это был очень странный экспириэнс.
[17:51:39] огыешсук: А, скрипты, администрирование, понятно. То есть замена шелла и перла.
[17:51:42] xa4a: хайлоад на плюсах, сях
[17:51:51] xa4a: на жабе, ага
[17:52:20] Darth Лис: очорд
[17:52:26] Darth Лис: не туда ^_^
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[17:52:36] огыешсук: попалился
[17:52:52] Darth Лис: собственно, я никогда и не отрицал
[17:52:58] zunkree: :)
[17:53:18] огыешсук: Еретик!
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[17:53:33] Darth Лис: скорее, на 2 фронта :)
[17:53:35] zunkree: ату его, ату
[17:53:36] Darth Лис: я и там и там успеваю
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[17:53:57] zunkree: усугубляешь!
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[17:54:19] zunkree: уже костер разжигать пора
[17:55:28] огыешсук: А mysql кто помнит? Там аналог \d это что?
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[17:55:52] Darth Лис: огыешсук, show create table
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[17:56:21] Darth Лис: огыешсук, и вообще, я flask осваиваю, так что нечего тут
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[17:56:43] Мозгошредер: Тут школьную физику кто-то помнит?
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[17:57:56] Мозгошредер: Как выразить напряжение между двумя заряженными и находящимися на некотором расстоянии шариками?
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[17:58:46] огыешсук: Как U?
[17:59:16] огыешсук: пропорционально заряду, обратнопропорционально расстоянию
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[17:59:32] огыешсук: а то и квадрату, кто ж его помнит
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[18:02:24] xa4a: только это не напряжение, думаю
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[18:02:45] Сволота: какую библиотеку лучше взять для попиксельной обработки изображений?
[18:02:58] xa4a: смотря какой обработки
[18:03:10] xa4a: opencv?
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[18:03:52] Сволота: нужен перебор пикселей, но при этом желательна поддержка большенства основных форматов
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[18:04:11] xa4a: ну opencv
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[18:04:31] xa4a: и/или numpy для матричных операций
[18:04:44] Сволота: спасибо, сейчас посмотрю что это за такое
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[18:10:40] webninja: или PIL
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[19:11:40] webninja: это самое
[19:11:59] webninja: вообщем ситуация такая
[19:12:26] webninja: есть биллинг. есть контент который нужно отдавать после того как пройдет оплата. django framework
[19:12:41] webninja: как отдачу организовать? нужно же чтобы юзер как бы не имел доступа там где все лежит
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[19:14:13] xa4a: мидлварью
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[19:14:29] xa4a: эм. какой контент? статика?
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[19:14:47] xa4a: ну или пер-юзер симлинки
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[19:16:14] webninja: а точно
[19:16:16] webninja: миддлварии
[19:16:39] webninja: о ваще реально. я просто юзера еще регаю. мм сделаю ему чтобы доступно было просто все что он купил, скачать )
[19:16:55] webninja: контент да, файлы
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[19:18:12] gigimon: временные ссылки какие-нибудь
[19:18:23] xa4a: файлопомойки, вроде как генерят симлинки личные для юзера, а потом их чистят
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[19:19:42] cutwater: ох уж эти ваши сопроводительные письма брррр
[19:20:14] Darth Лис: webninja, http://wiki.nginx.org/XSendfile
[19:20:38] огыешсук is now xa
[19:20:50] cutwater: xa4a: тихо ненавижу этот ваш эпистолярный жанр
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[19:21:24] webninja: о спасиб щаз гляну
[19:21:24] xa4a: ну иначе присылаешь голое CV и ждёшь, пока тебя выберут из 70к таких же
[19:21:30] gigimon: xa4a: что подразумевается под симлинк для юзера?
[19:21:36] cutwater: xa4a: ну я понял да
[19:21:42] cutwater: я сочиняю
[19:21:52] xa4a: gigimon: временные ссылки, да
[19:21:59] gigimon: xa4a: ок
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[19:47:59] xa4a: эгм.. а в джанге ничего нет встроенного для connection pool?
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[19:49:20] webninja: олсо, чем замиксить рсс фиды с разных апов в один (django)? не хотелось бы велосипеды изобретать, есть наверняка какое-нибудь общепринятое решение
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[19:50:13] xa4a: xslt?
[19:50:23] xa4a: yahoo pipes
[19:50:30] webninja: не ) я думал про это.
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[19:50:55] webninja: нужно как-то модно нативно используя python
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