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[00:32:01] py_two: вопрос:http://dumpz.org/142670/
[00:33:14] py_two: ну или Стефан или блин ccc = "cascascasc"
[00:33:25] py_two: уже хоть что-нибудь должно выводить:)
[00:33:59] xa4a: ты читал туториал по питону?
[00:34:14] py_two: а что ?
[00:34:27] xa4a: прочитай для начала
[00:34:33] xa4a: чтобы понять, что делает
[00:34:35] xa4a: ccc = Context({'name' : 'Стефан'})
ccc = "cascascasc"
[00:34:49] py_two: та ну закомментите эту строчку
[00:34:53] xa4a: потом почитай документацию по джанге по шаблонам
[00:34:56] py_two: то я от безнадеги уже вписал ее
[00:34:58] xa4a: сам закоменти
[00:35:11] py_two: xa4a: так это пример из книги как раз
[00:35:17] xa4a: не может быть
[00:35:20] py_two: читаю книгу по дьянге я :Р
[00:35:55] xa4a: <p> Сейчас: {{ ccc }}.</p>
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[00:36:00] py_two: как раз по наследованию шаблона
[00:36:00] xa4a: ошибка в этой строке
[00:36:07] xa4a: нет, не про наследование
[00:36:13] xa4a: читай как данные передаются в шаблон
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[07:30:52] neoascetic: подскажите, почему у меня порой джанга ругается на unicodedecodeerror, когда делаю _('текст'). coding:utf-8 указан
[07:31:09] neoascetic: но стоит сделать _(u'текст') - и все работает.
[07:31:19] neoascetic: я что-то не понимаю про coding: ?
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[07:39:15] webninja: _ - это что за магия?
[07:39:34] neoascetic: ну так шорткат для ugettext_lazy
[07:39:42] webninja: хз даже )
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[07:39:55] webninja: бля у меня тут тоже вопрос мутный а чото никого походу нет
[07:41:49] webninja: есть таблица с категориями там я в одном из полей вывожу типа сколько элементов в этой категории. так вот хочется сделать активным его чтобы например жамкал на эту циферку и юзера отправляло на страницу админки с элементами которые зафильтрованны соответственно категории.
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[07:46:35] Ляпатяпа: это в админке или в твоей вьюхе? в чем проблема? делаешь ссылку на админку с нужным гет-параметром
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[07:53:20] neoascetic: Юзая {% url %}, естественно.
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[08:01:56] webninja: Ляпатяпа ну да ) но мне кажется это не по феншую
[08:02:02] webninja: в админке
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[08:02:55] webninja: а ваще да смотрю доки жанго в принципе норм. выйдет
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[08:08:43] neoascetic: есть вопрос про django-cms и про особенности импорта модулей в общем
[08:09:36] neoascetic: создаю я знач для cms плагин, это класс, наследую от другого плагина. ну и, стало быть, испортирую этот родительский класс из соответвующего модуля
[08:09:55] neoascetic: from module.cms_plugins import Class - как-то так
[08:10:36] neoascetic: в этом же модуле лежит директива, что, мол, этот (родительский) класс нужно зарегистрировать в CMS, чего я не хочу (а хочу зарегистрировать только потомка)
[08:11:10] neoascetic: вопрос - почему происходит регистрация двух плагинов - и моего, и родительского?
[08:11:33] neoascetic: при импорте класса из модуля автоматически выполняются все директивы этого модуля?
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[13:03:32] metall1c: всем привет, просмотрел кучу документации, но так и не смог понять, какой же самый правильный способ хостить статику и мультимедиа в джанге? как я понимаю, django.views.static.serve только для отладки, для продакшена он не годен?
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[13:04:11] webninja: http://progressors.org.ua/articles/4/
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[13:05:25] neoascetic: он не годен, потому что подразумевается, что статикой занимается не джанга
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[13:06:08] neoascetic: следовательно, нужно чтобы ей занимался http-сервер
[13:06:16] neoascetic: вот и все
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[13:07:12] metall1c: т.е. не надо всю статику прописывать через веб-сервер?
[13:08:10] metall1c: neoascetic: а статику админки перед отключением дебага перетаскивать в каталог static с помощью collectstatic?
[13:08:22] neoascetic: то есть НАДО всю статику приписывать через сервер
[13:08:44] metall1c: ага, очепятался
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[13:08:58] neoascetic: мы делаем так
[13:09:17] neoascetic: в папке проекта есть папка public, которая в .gitignore
[13:09:56] neoascetic: апач настроен так, чтобы сперва искать, что есть, в public, а если не нашел - передавал управление джанге
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[13:10:07] metall1c: а можно пример конфига виртуалхоста?
[13:10:08] neoascetic: потом - STATIC_DIR = public/static
[13:10:29] neoascetic: ну и линкс media -> public/media
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[13:10:50] neoascetic: или даже напрямую, если нет нужды в MEDIA на проекте (что чаще всего)
[13:11:04] neoascetic: конфиг дать не могу, нет под рукой
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[13:11:32] metall1c: у меня все в media папке и css и жаба-скрипты и мультимедиа, все в соответствующих подкаталогах
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[13:11:53] neoascetic: они - должны в статике
[13:12:04] neoascetic: медиа - для загружаемого юзером контента
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[13:12:16] neoascetic: в общем, RTFM
[13:12:31] metall1c: аа, а цсс, статичные картинки стилей и т.д. в static ?
[13:13:10] neoascetic: ну сам подумай
[13:13:21] neoascetic: статичные картинки стилей... static... не?
[13:13:32] metall1c: ну да
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[13:14:29] metall1c: collectstatic это вообще насколько правильно? не проще симлинков наделать?
[13:14:59] neoascetic: не проще
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[13:15:21] neoascetic: потому как в приложениях тоже может быть статика
[13:15:29] neoascetic: которая в папке static
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[13:16:31] metall1c: ну я имею ввиду collectstatic копирует всю статику админки и ее приблуд
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[13:16:45] metall1c: а это дублировать данные для всех проектов на джанге
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[13:16:59] webninja: ну и чо (
[13:17:03] webninja: часто даже окружение дублируют под каждый проект )))
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[13:17:11] neoascetic: я так и окружения дублирую, ничо
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[13:17:17] metall1c: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 65 Dec 1 11:24 admin -> /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/django/contrib/admin/media
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 53 Dec 1 11:24 cms -> /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/cms/static/cms
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 62 Dec 1 11:23 tiny_mce -> /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/tinymce/static/tiny_mce
[13:17:22] neoascetic: не мегабайт RAM же
[13:17:32] metall1c: # ls -la static выше
[13:17:33] neoascetic: а мегабайт диска
[13:17:48] neoascetic: и?
[13:17:56] metall1c: ну типа три симлинка и все
[13:18:06] neoascetic: ну типа круто. делай как удобней
[13:18:14] neoascetic: главное чтобы работало
[13:18:18] metall1c: единственное, если версия/путь смениться симлинки править
[13:18:26] metall1c: хотя да, не так уж и много эта статика весит
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[13:19:20] metall1c: а вот эта приблуда для чего тогда? django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.FileSystemFinder
[13:19:25] neoascetic: если на то пошло, сделай общий STATIC_DIR, только имена статики у твоих приложений разные были
[13:19:31] neoascetic: чтобы*
[13:19:56] neoascetic: do you speak english?
[13:20:01] metall1c: so so
[13:20:08] metall1c: хренова
[13:20:20] neoascetic: у гугла хороший переводчик
[13:20:32] neoascetic: а у джанги - доки
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[13:20:56] neoascetic: да и вообще... лезь в код, там тоже немало документировано
[13:21:28] neoascetic: вкратце - эта приблуда ищет файлы статики в проекте
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[13:22:11] metall1c: ну я еще не настолько силен в питоне, чтобы в таком сложном чужом коде разбираться, если не сложно, поясни что это за приблуда, чтобы общее понимание наступило по всем этим вариантам хостинга статики
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[13:23:37] neoascetic: она - ищет в файловой системе (в папках static всех приложений)
[13:23:55] neoascetic: больше пока ничего и не надо
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[13:25:27] metall1c: для чего она ищет? я вот прописал по доке, потом пробую python manage.py findstatic
[13:25:31] metall1c: # python manage.py findstatic js/builder.js
Found 'js/builder.js' here:
/www/fvsvo/media/js/builder.js
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[13:25:36] metall1c: находит
[13:25:54] neoascetic: ну и?
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[13:26:09] neoascetic: у тебя походу линк из статики в медиа?
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[13:26:25] metall1c: запускаю runserver, прописываю этот же путь в браузере - болт
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[13:27:04] neoascetic: какой-этот же?
[13:27:08] metall1c: [25/Jan/2012 12:26:42] "GET /js/builder.js HTTP/1.1" 301 0
[25/Jan/2012 12:26:42] "GET /js/builder.js/ HTTP/1.1" 500 0
[25/Jan/2012 12:26:53] "GET /media/js/builder.js HTTP/1.1" 301 0
[25/Jan/2012 12:26:53] "GET /media/js/builder.js/ HTTP/1.1" 500 0
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[13:27:15] metall1c: пробую с media и без
[13:27:23] metall1c: он слеши добавляет в конце пути
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[13:27:35] neoascetic: нужно {{ STATIC_URL }}js/file.js
[13:27:49] metall1c: # ls media/js/builder.js
media/js/builder.js
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[13:28:47] metall1c: т.е. через браузер попробовать достать файл не получится?
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[13:32:16] neoascetic: получится
[13:32:26] neoascetic: если правильно настроишь
[13:32:34] neoascetic: иначе - зачем статика/медиа?
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[13:35:45] sakal: "magic" :)
[13:36:22] metall1c: neoascetic: ну этот способ просто получается как альтернатива отдачи статики через апач?
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[13:36:46] sakal: зачем статику отдавать скриптами?
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[13:37:29] neoascetic: товарищи, кто пробовал RoR - вместе со всеми плюшками типа sass, haml, coffie-script фронтэнд разработка веселее и проще?
[13:37:54] metall1c: sakal: ну вот и я задался этим вопросом, может есть причина, для чего-то же городили этот FileSystemFinder
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[13:38:39] neoascetic: причина проста: я обновил статику в репозитории, сделал push
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[13:39:02] sakal: metall1c: я вижу две причины: 1) нужно отдавать уникальный контент и требуется валидация при его выдачи, например скачивать треки. 2) нет возможности править настройки web-сервера
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[13:39:33] sakal: neoascetic: причём тут участие скриптов при выдачи статики клиенту?
[13:40:03] neoascetic: sakal, не понял
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[13:40:54] sakal: neoascetic: к чему была реплика "neoascetic: причина проста: я обновил статику в репозитории, сделал push"?
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[13:41:49] neoascetic: ну я не завершил. типа - на сервере сделал collectstatic, который собрал всю статику в одном месте и сделал запрос инвалидации в amazon cloudfront
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[13:49:45] metall1c: sakal: спасибо за разьяснения, т.е. получается FileSystemFinder более приемлемое решение в плане производительности в сравнении с staticserver, если надо статику отдавать скриптами?
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[13:53:02] sakal: metall1c: я не знаю что такое FileSystemFinder и staticserver
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[13:54:09] metall1c: django.contrib.staticfiles.finders.FileSystemFinder
[13:54:22] metall1c: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/staticfiles/
[13:55:32] neoascetic: смотри
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[18:41:47] g71rus: Друзья, а кто-нибудь может подсказать как правильно для python собрать wxPython
[18:42:13] g71rus: ...из исходников, именно интересует сборка из исходников по linux :(
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[18:43:02] cutwater: э... но зачем?
[18:43:20] xa4a: ./configure && make && make install
[18:43:20] cutwater: g71rus: обычно все нормальные люди собирают и ставят python setup.py install
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[18:46:49] g71rus: ну вот я написал вопрос http://www.python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?id=13639
[18:47:02] g71rus: а где там файл setup.py
[18:47:04] g71rus: ?
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[18:51:46] xa4a: что пишет make install?
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[18:52:42] g71rus: что всё устновилось
[18:52:48] g71rus: никаких ошибок
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[18:53:10] xa4a: тогда должно работать
[18:53:24] g71rus: у меня ощущение, что там где ищет питон wx его нет, не туда установился
[18:53:43] xa4a: скорее наоборот
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[18:53:51] xa4a: там, где питон ищет wx - его нет
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[18:54:09] xa4a: да, не туда установился
[18:54:18] xa4a: но в выводе make install всё должно быть расписано
[18:54:21] xa4a: кто-куда
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[18:56:30] g71rus: сейчас еще раз попробую
[18:56:44] g71rus: а prefix надо указывать?
[18:56:47] g71rus: в configure
[18:56:48] g71rus: ?
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[18:57:30] g71rus: сам python находится в /usr/lib
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[18:57:49] g71rus: т.е. папка python в /usr/lib
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[18:58:11] g71rus: мрожет надо в ./configire --prefix='указать путь'
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[19:00:07] cutwater: g71rus: если ставишь по стандартным путям то обычно не надо
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[19:00:56] cutwater: для начала узнай куда ставится wx твой. потом посмотри какой у python sys.path
[19:01:01] cutwater: сделай соответствующие выводы
[19:02:13] g71rus: ['', '/usr/lib/python24.zip', '/usr/lib/python2.4', '/usr/lib/python2.4/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages']
[19:02:24] g71rus: не пугайтесь что такой старый питон
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[19:02:45] g71rus: это просто стенд такая, на котором пытаюсь понять как правильно собрать
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[19:11:28] xa4a: g71rus: ты ещё не посмотрел, куда make install ставит модули питона?
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[19:16:19] g71rus: поставил собираться, сейчас скажу
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[19:22:57] g71rus: /usr//locoal//include//wx-2.8//
[19:23:15] g71rus: /usr//local//include//wx-2.8//
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[19:23:56] xa4a: хорошо, а модули питона?
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[19:24:40] xa4a: /usr/lib - это не модуль питона
[19:25:49] g71rus: как посмотреть? :(
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[19:26:18] xa4a: grep '.py\s\*' make_install_log
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[19:29:57] g71rus: grep: make_install_log: No such file or directory
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[19:31:19] Martin: добрый день. хотелось бы задать тупой вопрос по Django. вот на скриншоте где news и test_site - это пакеты-"модули" (ну что-то вроде того, что есть в CMS)?
http://i.imgur.com/cp45W.jpg
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[19:32:24] xa4a: Martin: это питон-модули. это не CMS
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[19:33:48] Martin: xa4a: я понимаю... ну в Django на пакеты делятся всякие там приложения на сайте? ну там блог, форум и так далее? я просто впервые имею дело с этим...
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[19:34:12] xa4a: да
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[19:37:14] Martin: то есть идет что-то такое у Django-проектов:
ROOT:
- news
- - *сорцы*
- blog
- - *сорцы*
- comments
- - *сорцы*
- admin
- - *сорцы*
- settings.py и т.д...
[19:37:40] xa4a: можно так, да
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[19:38:07] g71rus: xa4a: а как еще можно посмотреть?
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[19:38:28] g71rus: grep '.py\s\*' make_install_log - не работает
[19:38:34] xa4a: можно посммотреть глазами
[19:38:40] xa4a: на вывод make install
[19:38:45] xa4a: куда он ставит модули питона
[19:39:00] Martin: xa4a: понятно... я просто впервые решил попробовать Django, ясен пень, что профи и круче слепают
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[19:39:30] xa4a: Martin: просто прочитай документацию
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[19:40:23] Martin: xa4a: курил же
[19:40:31] xa4a: курить вредно же
[19:40:49] Martin: ну доки - полезно :). табак не курю.
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[19:48:17] g71rus: он туда ставит
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[19:51:56] g71rus: попробовал find найти wx.py не нашел
[19:52:00] g71rus: херня вообщем
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[20:12:23] Skaledra: мужики трабла возникла(PyQt).....не могу сообразить в чем дело:
self.cmbox = QtGui.QComboBox()
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QtCore.QObject.connect(self.cmbox, QtCore.SIGNAL("activated()"), self.on_change_click)
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def on_change_click(self):
self.lab1.setText(self.cmbox.currentText())
не пашет.....гугл не помог
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[20:13:51] Skaledra: когда делаю конект на кнопку с сигналом clicked() все гут
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[20:15:33] gigimon: хотя вроде тот
[20:15:35] gigimon: ъх
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[20:17:29] gigimon: Skaledra: on_change_click должен же еще индекс принимать
[20:17:35] gigimon: от комбобокса
[20:18:00] gigimon: в on_change_click помимо self добавь еще ind
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[20:18:16] Skaledra: спс
[20:18:59] gigimon: проверь
[20:19:02] gigimon: аж самому интересно
[20:19:09] Skaledra: щас проверю
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[20:20:40] Skaledra: да просто activted(int)
блин вот запара я 2 часа сидел ><
[20:20:49] Skaledra: пасиба мужик
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[20:22:01] gigimon: (:
[20:22:03] gigimon: читайте доку
[20:22:30] Skaledra: да блин фигово читал.....както привык что clicked() указываться безв сего и на этой почве лажанулся =)
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[20:27:59] g71rus: Если у меня Python находится вот здесь /usr/lib/python2.4 а по умолчанию wxPython ставится в /usr/local как мне правильно путь в prefix изменить?
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[20:30:01] g71rus: ща попробую
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[20:40:57] g71rus: вот лог после make install http://pastebin.com/CxAFLERP
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[20:43:52] g71rus: и всё равно import wx если
[20:44:05] g71rus: No module named wx
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[20:45:26] sakal: g71rus: попробуй так:
import wxversion
wxversion.select(['2.8'])
import wx
[20:45:53] xa4a: попробуй так: http://wiki.wxpython.org/How%20to%20install%20wxPython
[20:46:02] xa4a: там не нужно make install
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[20:49:01] g71rus: import wxversion
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named wxversion
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[20:49:36] sakal: g71rus: какой дистрибутив?
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[20:49:49] sakal: /me надо было это сразу спросить
[20:50:28] g71rus: мандрива старай
[20:50:30] g71rus: это стенд
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[20:51:19] g71rus: у меня нет ваще файла setup.py
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[20:58:45] g71rus: xa4a: я не незнаю откуда там берётся setup.py у меня его нет и в архиве тоже нет
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[20:58:56] xa4a: таки нет
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[20:59:56] g71rus: import sys
>>> sys.path
['', '/usr/lib/python24.zip', '/usr/lib/python2.4', '/usr/lib/python2.4/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload', '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages']
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[21:00:12] g71rus: т.е. видимо сюда не установился wx
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[23:54:42] alexey-grom is now online
[23:54:58] nott is now away
[23:55:07] alexey-grom is now dnd
[23:56:15] mishok13 is now online
[23:56:25] mishok13 is now offline
[23:58:14] bobry is now away
[23:58:35] alexey-grom is now online
[23:58:51] alexey-grom is now dnd
[23:59:09] Сволота is now away