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[02:32:36] speellsinger: Всем ку! <###20###img001>
[02:32:49] Sof_com: и тебе
[02:33:11] speellsinger: Как делы?
[02:33:23] Sof_com: Все также хорошо
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[02:34:14] speellsinger: Ясненько, а меня кстати Игорем зовут!
[02:34:25] speellsinger: А тебя как?
[02:34:34] Sof_com: Очень хорошо. Я Евений
[02:34:55] Sof_com: В Питонеры решил податься?
[02:34:58] speellsinger: Очень приятно <SMILE>id=426 alt=':Улыбаюсь:'</SMILE>
[02:35:41] py_two: Sof_com: Евений, зачем ?
[02:35:46] speellsinger: Не, просто зашел, в то общаться не с кем <SMILE>id=422 alt=':В печали:'</SMILE>
[02:36:04] Sof_com: py_two: Ты про что?
[02:39:33] webninja: внимание
[02:39:42] webninja: школобро в конфе
[02:40:30] speellsinger: ЭТ ТЫ ПРО НЯ ЧТОЛЬ?
[02:40:46] py_two: speellsinger: скучно, да ?
[02:40:58] py_two: speellsinger: он меня имел ввиду
[02:41:09] speellsinger: py_two,
[02:41:35] xa4a: нет, меня
[02:41:39] speellsinger: py_two, мда... Скучновато <SMILE>id=422 alt=':В печали:'</SMILE>
[02:41:43] py_two: xa4a: в очередь!:)
[02:42:15] xa4a: speellsinger: поставь линукс
[02:42:19] webninja: да
[02:42:23] webninja: а лучше
[02:42:24] webninja: болгенос
[02:42:40] speellsinger: py_two, а че, здесь школоло не моно?
[02:42:57] py_two: speellsinger: почему не моно ? Я ж тут сижу, значит моно
[02:43:53] speellsinger: xa4a, а на тел. лин пойдет?
[02:44:43] xa4a: симбиан?
[02:44:48] py_two: speellsinger: даже на домашний пойдет
[02:45:18] speellsinger: Кстати, кто то в линейдж 2 играет?
[02:45:52] speellsinger: xa4a, не, нокиа 5200
[02:45:53] py_two: speellsinger: ха4а на питоне даже в линейку шпилит
[02:46:02] py_two: через консоль питона
[02:46:30] speellsinger: py_two, ет, как так?
[02:46:43] py_two: speellsinger: у него спроси, я-то при чем тут ?
[02:46:57] speellsinger: Ааааа
[02:47:56] xa4a: python.exe lineage_bot.py
[02:48:20] speellsinger: О
[02:48:23] py_two: xa4a: это ж секрет был
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[02:49:00] speellsinger: xa4a, я завтра через комп зайду, там чуть легче сидеть. <SMILE>id=426 alt=':Улыбаюсь:'</SMILE>
[02:49:17] xa4a: зайди завтра через линукс
[02:49:53] speellsinger: xa4a, хорошо. Ты есть вконтакте?
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[02:50:09] xa4a: эм.. что если есть?
[02:50:35] xa4a: (кстати, сейчас уже вконтакте не модно. все сидят в гугл+)
[02:51:54] speellsinger: xa4a, добавлю, я просто там всегда сижу! Дашь ссылку на линукс. Это же ведь прога?
[02:51:55] py_two: xa4a: или в гугл++ =)
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[02:52:26] xa4a: у кого есть ссылка на линукс?
[02:52:40] py_two: xa4a: это преватная прога
[02:52:47] py_two: у меня нет и врядли будет
[02:52:49] xa4a: превратная?
[02:53:00] py_two: xa4a: превратно-преватная
[02:53:06] speellsinger: xa4a, это как
[02:53:28] xa4a: speellsinger: английский читаешь?
[02:53:49] speellsinger: xa4a, угу
[02:54:09] xa4a: отлично, http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:54:46] speellsinger: xa4a, <SMILE>id=426 alt=':Улыбаюсь:'</SMILE>
[02:55:24] speellsinger: xa4a, спс
[02:55:43] xa4a: на здоровье
[02:58:39] speellsinger: Всем пока, до завтра:)
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[13:28:48] speellsinger: Всем привет <SMILE>id=426 alt=':Улыбаюсь:'</SMILE>
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[13:37:01] aries.ua: И тебе привет SMILE id=426 alt=':Улыбаюсь:' /SMILE
[13:37:25] aries.ua: /me советует не использовать не стандартные смайлы
[13:37:26] speellsinger: aries.ua, как делишки?
[13:37:40] aries.ua: нормуль :)
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[13:38:07] speellsinger: aries.ua, меня Игорь зовут, а тебя?
[13:38:26] aries.ua: Дима, а если серьезно - я негодую!
[13:38:45] aries.ua: Это писец товарищи! Вот такой вот белый и пушистый!!!
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[13:39:08] aries.ua: Щас выплесну негатив и меня попустит :)
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[13:39:30] xa4a: aries.ua: можно негатив в приват silent_bob
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[13:39:54] speellsinger: xa4a, ку. <###20###img001>
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[13:40:59] aries.ua: Вел переговоры с компанией. Прислали задание кой чего сделать. Сделал, но решил проявить побольше знаний. Написал на PHP небольшой фреймворк. Ну как бы проверка и себя лично - смогу или нет, ну а на базе его уже тестовое задание. Сделал за пару вечеров - точнее за два с половиной. И знаете что эти умники ответили???
[13:41:01] xa4a: speellsinger: это не оюязательно
[13:41:21] aries.ua: Уточню - задание на трудоустройство
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[13:42:14] aries.ua: Говорят - это не ваш код!
[13:42:20] aries.ua: Пипец - я завис.
[13:42:44] aries.ua: ну конечно - мое им кисточкой.
[13:42:58] xa4a: aries.ua: ну так они дают пруфы, или gtfo
[13:43:02] aries.ua: Но в целом - убил подход. Напрочь!
[13:43:18] xa4a: но да, печально
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[13:44:48] aries.ua: ну да ничего страшного, зато у меня в копилке собственный фреймворк. :) (правда на PHP). Но это так - чисто побаловаться и развивать его не буду. Есть более лучшие весчи. И ваще я люблю питон :)
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[13:46:12] aries.ua: Все, негатив выплеснул :D
[13:46:22] aries.ua: Теперь можно и на джанге пописать :)
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[14:36:23] tranq: опана, http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/
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[14:38:58] tranq: /me нашёл сокровище ибо сам дизайнить не умеет
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[14:41:08] webninja: ба
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[14:41:11] webninja: он щаз везде )
[14:41:25] webninja: у все последние сайты делаю все на бутстрапе )
[14:41:58] webninja: есть еще фрэймворки
[14:42:09] webninja: я думаю это модный тренд будет - унификация интерфейсов сайтов
[14:42:16] tranq: отлично
[14:42:18] webninja: http://www.99lime.com/
[14:42:22] webninja: вот глянь тоже норм.
[14:42:26] tranq: во
[14:42:32] tranq: это тоже видел
[14:42:45] webninja: я на хабре увиедел
[14:42:45] tranq: круто
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[15:18:21] py_two: чуть-чуть поофтоплю
[15:18:36] py_two: почему по радио в день победы такие вот песни не крутят ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4I1_cKd8bg
[15:19:22] py_two: задолбали эти: лев лещенко - Этот День Победы порохом пропах
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[15:20:24] py_two: незнаю как вы, но я каждый день помню о тех, кто отдал за меня жизни
[15:20:33] py_two: помню ежедневно, а не только на 9 мая
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[16:02:35] opka: py_two: кого именно вы помните?
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[16:03:35] singularity: Привет всем!
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[16:04:18] opka: товарищи, кто юзал капчу в джанго: simple-captcha которая?
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[16:05:33] opka: скажите, он на девелоперском серваке должна рисовать капчу или нет? (у меня не рисует)
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[16:19:13] огыешсук: вечер
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[16:23:46] singularity: Дайте мне как новичкку маленькое задание...
[16:24:25] webninja: x^2 + 3x - 26 = 0
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[16:27:58] огыешсук: singularity: напиши распознавалку спама на веб-страничках
[16:28:16] MAVr is now Дорогой Дедушка Мороз! Подари мне на Новый Год нового президента, а этих двух забери себе в олени!
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[16:32:20] opka: напиши прогу ,которая перевернет строку юез использования встроенных функций пиона %)
[16:34:15] singularity: Подождите, я делаю задания webninja
[16:34:42] singularity: огыешсук думаю это слишком трудно для меня
[16:36:04] огыешсук: Хорошо, тогда разпознавалку полезного содержимого. В блоге это пост (не комментарии), в форуме это заглавный пост плюс список ответов на него (с учетом паджинга).
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[16:37:01] огыешсук: В новостной странице это новость (обычно с картинкой), не пользовательские комментарии или там Like кнопки с боковыми навигаторами.
[16:38:18] opka: кстати, отвечаю на свой вопрос про капчу: да, должна показываться, но pil надо было собирать руками, с поддержкой freetype. после перекомпиляции вё прошло %)
[16:38:19] webninja: можно дом строить. и брать блоки див где меньше всего тэгов в процентном отношении.
[16:39:07] огыешсук: не, так будет точность под 60% если не меньше, я сам с этого начинал, да
[16:40:17] огыешсук: Точнее это на блогах под 60%, на других ресурсах меньше 40.
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[16:41:18] opka: а откуда такая точная статистика?
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[16:44:24] огыешсук: я как бы этим занимался
[16:46:37] opka: а как статистику собирали?
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[16:47:58] singularity: Oно работает ))))) <http://dumpz.org/145215/>
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[16:52:40] opka: elif D == 0 or D < 0 :
print " Equation do not have solution !"
уверен?
[16:53:18] opka: singularity: :)
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[16:55:01] singularity: При нулю будет 1 корень , а при D <0 только на множестве комплексных чисел. Верно?
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[16:57:20] singularity: Кстати elif (b==0 and c==0):
print "Error!"
[16:57:29] singularity: тоже имеет решения
[17:00:23] opka: ну вот ж)
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[17:07:51] singularity: Так лучше ? <http://dumpz.org/145224/>
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[17:14:12] xa4a: !g tl;dr bookmarklet
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[17:14:19] xa4a: огыешсук: ^
[17:15:15] xa4a: singularity: подучить английский бы
[17:15:22] xa4a: напиши консольную рсс читалку
[17:15:45] opka: !g jckbrnhf[ftnjckbrf
[17:15:57] opka: !g ;fkm^(
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[17:50:04] огыешсук: xa4a: да, подобных сервисов много, самый известный ридабилити.
[17:50:43] огыешсук: почти все их имеющихся сервисов имеют качество не выше 60%
[17:50:51] огыешсук: *из
[17:51:47] огыешсук: соответственно если singularity напишет версию с 95% попаданий, то это будет неплохим стартом
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[18:22:47] singularity: переворот строки <http://dumpz.org/145250/>
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[18:32:16] opka: молодец ж)
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[18:32:44] opka: singularity: еще?:)
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[18:40:36] xa4a: singularity: возьми какой-то google code jam и порешай задачки
[18:40:46] xa4a: для начала с квалификаций, например
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[18:50:15] singularity: огыешсук:я не знаю алгоритм.
[18:50:41] singularity: xa4a: rss сейчас попробую
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[18:51:31] singularity: opka: чуть позже когда все остальное сделаю
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[19:10:30] огыешсук: алгоритм можно и придумать, да, вон выше webninja один уже придумал, какие проблемы
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[19:17:16] Septem: Добрый вечер. Такой вопрос как правельно записать название для переменной которая выгледит так hex_i где i это определённый номер в неком листе
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[19:18:52] xa4a: hex[i]
[19:19:07] Septem: xa4a: ?
[19:19:36] Septem: приставка hex_ специално чтобы отличить от функции
[19:20:05] xa4a: my_hex[i]
[19:20:20] xa4a: ну вообще обычно переменные обзывают тем, что в них хранится
[19:20:45] Septem: xa4a: мне надо генерировать пачку переменных с неким значением что бы у них был вид "my_hex" + номер
[19:21:05] xa4a: нет, тебе не надо пачка переменных
[19:21:10] xa4a: обойдёшься одним списком
[19:21:26] Septem: xa4a: мне надо названия для обьектов класса
[19:21:39] xa4a: что значит объект класса?
[19:21:42] xa4a: инстанс класса?
[19:21:46] xa4a: или аттрибут класса?
[19:21:47] Septem: да
[19:21:50] singularity: огыешсук: я посмотрел html хабра там пост в dive - post
[19:22:16] singularity: а коментарий в dive message
[19:22:16] Septem: обьект принадлежаший классу
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[19:22:30] xa4a: Septem: Klass.hex[i]
[19:22:34] xa4a: в чём проблема?
[19:22:49] Septem: xa4a: у меня таких обьектов предположим 100
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[19:23:19] Septem: надо каждый назвать ввиде hex_%номер%
[19:23:21] singularity: Возможно , под каждый сайт нада новые правиоа разбора?
[19:24:05] Septem: экземпляр класса мне нужен
[19:24:11] Septem: точнее кучка их
[19:24:17] Septem: py3k
[19:25:32] xa4a: Septem: тебе нужен список
[19:26:10] xa4a: пока не объяснишь, чем список не подходит - не поверю
[19:26:19] Septem: xa4a: тоесть банально приставка+номер нельзя?
[19:26:40] xa4a: можно
[19:26:43] xa4a: но ты этого не хочешь
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[19:27:12] Septem: xa4a: почему? что плохого в том что я находу сгенерирую? зачем мне хранить то список этот
[19:27:14] xa4a: (если мне всё-равно не веришь, то смотри функции setattr/getattr
[19:27:51] xa4a: плохо то, что ты сгенерируешь сначала имена, чтобы поставить аттрибуты, потом чтобы их выбирать
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[19:28:01] xa4a: два раза. но зачем? если можно просто использовать список
[19:28:02] xa4a: или словарь
[19:28:06] Septem: xa4a: стоп
[19:28:35] Septem: при исопльзовании я не буду их генерировать список
[19:29:25] Septem: у меня есть список ссылок на все экземпляры класса
[19:29:45] Septem: и это i совпадает с номером ссылки в данном списке
[19:29:47] огыешсук: singularity: нет, это плохой выбор -- под каждый сайт придумывать свой парсер. Это конечно на начальный момент даёт 100% качество, но и при этом означает что ты сможешь охватить только небольшое число сайтов и твоё решение будет работать только довольно небольшое время (пока на сайте не сменят дизайн). Выгоднее придумать универсальный алгоритм.
[19:30:56] огыешсук: Хотя, для начинающего, вполне можно начать как раз с "написать парсер хабра". Благо на хабре довольно семантический код и при этом он редко меняется.
[19:32:00] Septem: xa4a: и что же мне делать генерировтаь бесполезный список?
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[19:37:06] Septem: xa4a: и причём атрибуты?
[19:37:15] xa4a: Septem: Klass.links = []; for i in range(10); Klass.links.append(link)
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[19:38:38] xa4a: список - это структура данных, которая используется для хранения "кучки"
[19:38:48] xa4a: "Septem
экземпляр класса мне нужен
точнее кучка их"
[19:39:06] xa4a: разве что ты соизволишь точнее описать, что тебе нужно на самом деле, и окажется, что тебе нужен словарь
[19:39:07] Septem: xa4a: и зачем мне этот список? я прошу способ что бы назвать все экземпляры класса по некому шаблону, без создания их списка.
[19:39:26] xa4a: зачем?
[19:39:34] xa4a: окей..
[19:39:36] xa4a: что ты потом будешь с экземплярами делать
[19:39:37] xa4a: ?
[19:39:47] xa4a: со всеми одно и то же?
[19:40:42] Septem: xa4a: нет вызывать их по ссылке которая храниться в списке (добавляеться вовремя инициализации экземпляра)
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[19:41:27] Septem: xa4a: просто у меня выходит 2 списка в твоём варианте, один с названиями, второй с сылками
[19:41:34] xa4a: э..
[19:41:38] xa4a: в питоне - всё ссылки
[19:41:53] xa4a: objs = []; for i in range(10): objs.append(MyClass())
[19:42:00] xa4a: список ссылок - список объектов
[19:42:10] xa4a: к объектам обращаться - objs[5]
[19:42:31] Septem: xa4a: мм я про то что один список будет содержать ссылаться на имена а второй на что то такое
[19:42:32] Septem: <__main__.test object at 0x00000000036BB6D8>
[19:42:59] xa4a: njulf bcgjkmpeq ckjdfhm
[19:43:04] xa4a: !decode
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[19:43:21] xa4a: yj'
[19:43:22] xa4a: ноэ
[19:43:31] xa4a: у тебя имена вида hex_i ?
[19:43:44] Septem: xa4a: я хочу их такого вида
[19:43:52] Septem: хотя по сути нет никакой разницы какого
[19:43:58] xa4a: это бесполезные имена
[19:44:07] xa4a: опиши задачу
[19:44:14] xa4a: а не то, как ты её решить хочешь
[19:44:49] Septem: есть поле гексов, каждый гекс принадлежит одному классу
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[19:45:17] Septem: задача создать их, и после работать сними
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[19:45:55] Septem: сейчас при создании экземпляра класса в списко всех элементов этого класса добавляеться ссылка на него
[19:46:30] singularity: огыешсук: разметка везде разная - я думаю не получиться.
[19:46:35] xa4a: элементов класса - это инстансов?
[19:46:55] Septem: экземпляры
[19:47:00] xa4a: singularity: в этом и смысл, что разметка везде разная и интерес в том, чтобы не привзяываться к конкретной
[19:47:09] огыешсук: да, не получится, но чтобы понять что и как, можно для начала сделать хабрапарсер, он может даже быть слегка потом полезен
[19:47:23] огыешсук: на хабре разметка одинаковая, его парсить просто
[19:47:37] xa4a: Septem: дальше?
[19:47:42] огыешсук: а потом может и универсальный алгоритм придумаетс
[19:47:44] огыешсук: z
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[19:49:27] Septem: xa4a: дальше ? пройтись по всем экземрам получая от них 6 точек координат и отрисовтаь их, в дальнейшем так же искать на какой из них наведенна мышь
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[19:51:57] xa4a: http://paste.in.ua/3802/
[19:52:05] xa4a: убежал :(
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[20:09:18] singularity: Парни , да я rss не могу розпарсить , а ви о универсальном алгоритме :-D
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[22:04:44] py_two: а никто не знает, есть ли жаббер сетка типа irc.freenode ?
[22:05:08] py_two: хочу повращаться в буржуйской сетке, выучить их язык:)
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[22:07:01] xa4a: а чем irc.freenode не подходит?
[22:07:12] xa4a: есть транспорты, клиенты, в конце концов
[22:07:17] xa4a: а лучше - книжки почитать
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[22:34:27] py_two: xa4a: на жаббер ру и орг нет транспортов
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[22:35:09] xa4a: это ж жабер. можно ведь использовать транспорты других серверов
[22:35:10] xa4a: можно ведь?
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[22:36:49] py_two: xa4a: что-то посоветуешь или нет ?:)
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[22:39:30] xa4a: http://jmukstatus.wordpress.com/using-the-irc-transport/
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