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[02:42:48] xa4a: всё не читал, но судя по последнему сообщению вы о Vim?
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[03:14:59] py_two: xa4a: я никогда не понимал зачем нужны автокомплиты как таковые
[03:15:26] py_two: я лично использую автокомплиты только для имен переменных и все
[03:15:54] xa4a: о, ты не разбирался с новыми API
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[03:16:08] py_two: xa4a: и плагин шаблонов snipMate
[03:16:22] xa4a: snipmate я не осилил, да
[03:16:29] xa4a: хотя ifmain удобно
[03:17:06] py_two: xa4a: а что не осилил ?
[03:17:18] xa4a: не использую просто
[03:19:07] py_two: xa4a: а я как видяшку увидел, где демонстрируются возможности - сразу поставил и просто был счастлив
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[03:43:08] xa4a: http://zw0rk.blogspot.com/2012/02/mako-vs-django-templates.html <- ужас, какие норкоманы!
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[03:43:33] xa4a: [q]когда собирается страница статьи, циклом инклудится каждый шаблон и т.п. Инклуд в цикле, как оказалось (и это не удивительно) — узкое место джанго-шаблонов, несмотря на всю изкоробочную кеш-машинерию. Когда в одной из статей кол-во комментов перевалило за тысячу, это стало неиллюзорно сказываться.[/q]
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[13:11:06] alexey-grom: Как по-проще сделать логгирование в мультипроцессном приложении? Задачи запускаются в отдельных процессах и как передавать их логи в процессе работы основному приложению с pyqt чтобы сбрасывать все в соответствующие процессу qtextedit?
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[13:15:25] nmk: alexey-grom: zeromq? :)
[13:16:27] webninja: rabbitMQ
[13:16:29] webninja: ampMQ
[13:16:33] webninja: message query
[13:17:21] nmk: нет, в rabbitmq не надо :)
[13:17:35] webninja: хм
[13:17:36] webninja: почему?
[13:17:44] webninja: celery как бы его юзает
[13:18:28] nmk: ну одно дело тебе какие-то таски раскидывать по процессам, другое дело какие-то локальные логи. где оверхед будет меньше? плюс представляешь qt софтину, которая просит установленный rabbitmq??
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[13:18:52] webninja: ну да )
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[13:19:59] alexey-grom: О спасибо, вообще SocketHandler было бы то что нужно, но вообще не горю желанием писать сервер
[13:20:37] alexey-grom: Так что из этого всего лучше всего использовать чтобы просто передавать логи в основной процесс?
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[13:22:10] nmk: ну если тебя не пугает отдельная либа, то zeromq
[13:22:22] nmk: но я бы писал в файл с грамотными блокировками и всё..
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[13:23:11] nmk: ну или sockethandler
[13:23:19] nmk: лишняя зависимость всё же не ок, если только для логов
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[14:13:17] gigimon: nmk: alexey-grom а почему не рассматривается кидать в Queue, а главный процесс пусть иногда вытаскивает из нее
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[14:14:53] alexey-grom: gigimon: это получится только по таймеру, я же не владею главным потоком
[14:15:39] gigimon: ну, таймер зафигарь :)
[14:15:44] gigimon: проще чем тянуть зависимость
[14:16:03] gigimon: раз в секунду вызвал, достал все и закинул куда надо
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[14:16:31] alexey-grom: свой "протокол" для логов делать?
[14:16:49] alexey-grom: я хотел бы передавать именно то что генерит logging
[14:17:05] xa4a: сделай хендлер
[14:17:34] alexey-grom: придется наверное именно так
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[14:20:36] alexey-grom: просто идеальным было бы просто установить поток вывода для порождаемого процесса, для кажного свой, вроде pipe в винде, но на питоне это как оказалось нетривиально. а так многовато телодвижений :)
[14:21:35] nmk: gigimon: ты про multiprocessing.Queue ?
[14:21:46] gigimon: да
[14:22:21] gigimon: передаем ее в каждый поток, потоки пишут в нее
[14:22:24] gigimon: а главный читает
[14:22:45] gigimon: а, хотя у вас процессы надо
[14:22:50] nmk: так а если процесс был запущен не из multiprocessing ?
[14:22:55] gigimon: поидее в процессах оно не будет пахать (:
[14:23:06] nmk: multiprocessing вообще для меня странный
[14:23:31] gigimon: ну если не потоки, а процессы, то надо межпроцессное общение, тогда да, zmq какой или сокеты
[14:23:39] nmk: на маке queue.qsize() не работает :)
[14:23:47] gigimon: гы
[14:23:53] alexey-grom: nmk: у меня именно из multiprocessing. если бы не из него, то было в этом смысле проще
[14:24:11] nmk: ну тогда пиши свой хэндлер и бери multiprocessing.Queue
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[14:24:22] alexey-grom: gigimon: Queue тоже годится для процессов
[14:24:32] gigimon: ок
[14:24:41] gigimon: я просто не делал никогда процессов много
[14:24:46] nmk: я встречал хэндлер для Queue.Queue, для нормального лога в тредах. там по сути только заменить импорт
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[14:33:55] webninja: Начиная с версии 2.5, Python поддерживает полноценные сопроцедуры: теперь в генератор можно передавать значения с помощью метода send() и возбуждать в его контексте исключения с помощью метода throw().
[14:33:58] webninja: ух нихрена себе
[14:34:09] webninja: coroutines называются эти сопроцедуры?
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[15:51:04] alexey-grom: Ребят, еще раз всем спасибо. Сделал что хотел: http://dumpz.org/157282/
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