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[00:03:20] gigimon: z100: подскажу, открой доку по питону 2.6 и по питону 3 в разделе exceptions
[00:03:26] gigimon: и сразу поймешь
[00:04:01] z100: если не трудно можешь здесь в двух словах написать
[00:04:39] gigimon: "," замени на as
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[00:10:12] z100: gigimon спасибо сейчас попробую
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[00:12:29] z100: gigimon видимо не всё так просто теперь вот что выдаёт
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except ImportErroras e:
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
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[00:13:34] z100: скопировалось криво указывает на "e" сейчас попробую с пробелом
[00:14:08] z100: с пробелом вот что
[00:14:12] z100: File "/usr/bin/iotop", line 11
print e
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[00:14:20] z100: указывает на "e"
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[00:16:36] z100: сейчас попробую
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[00:17:59] z100: теперь вот что
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print 'To run an uninstalled copy of iotop'
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
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[00:18:27] z100: извините что донимаю я в этом питоне ничего не смыслю
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[00:21:55] z100: указатель указывает на последний апостроф "'"
[00:22:22] z100: может в место низ скобки поставить?
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[00:27:32] deepwalker: а там что, третий питон что ле?
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[00:27:54] z100: я установил последний вроде 3.2.2
[00:28:07] deepwalker: z100, а кто тебе сказал, что он будет работать под третьим питоном?
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[00:28:19] deepwalker: не еби мозг товарищам
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[00:28:37] deepwalker: чтобы его портировать надо хорошо разбираться в обеих версиях
[00:28:53] deepwalker: обсуждение советую закрыть, и поставить правильную версию питона
[00:29:01] z100: в доке к проге написано вот что Iotop is a Python program with a top like UI used to show of behalf of which process is the I/O going on. It requires Python ≥ 2.5
[00:29:17] xa4a: когда писали доку 3 ещё не было
[00:29:20] deepwalker: z100, ты слушай что говорят, ставь 2.7 ;)
[00:29:37] deepwalker: ну если уж не разбираешься в этом нашем питоне
[00:29:37] z100: насколько я понимаю Python ≥ 2.5 версия 2.5 или больше
[00:29:54] deepwalker: ну тогда сам и парься, раз в понятии
[00:30:00] z100: так а в чём там проблемы?
[00:30:19] deepwalker: а тебе важно?
[00:30:25] xa4a: проблема в том, что питон 3+ - обратно не совместимый с 2
[00:30:28] deepwalker: тебе надо запустить скрипт?
[00:30:39] deepwalker: я говорю как - поставить правильную ветку
[00:30:43] z100: да надо запустить скрипт
[00:30:54] deepwalker: ну вот, ставь 2.7.x и не парься
[00:31:05] z100: понятно
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[11:48:53] aries.ua: (Django) Народ, подскажите плиз, а то никак найти не могу. Как в виджете RadioSelect убрать 0-вое значение? Что бы не было первой строки со '--------'
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[12:07:42] aries.ua: Вопрос снимается. Сделал виджет :)
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[12:14:15] foobarblah: зачем виджет там и так можно
[12:14:32] neoascetic: intial value, что-то такое вроде...
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[12:17:50] foobarblah: кароче задам ща неполиткорректный вопрос но. в парочке проектов just for fun решил заюзать pycharm, 1я ветка не оче нравилась а вторая норм вроде, так вот как мы там продлить тестовый период еще на пару месяцев, лол?
[12:18:06] foobarblah: как бы*
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[12:21:46] aries.ua: У меня ModelForm
[12:21:52] aries.ua: не прокатывает
[12:22:15] aries.ua: А может стоит купить? :)
[12:22:39] neoascetic: а, ну тогда да, я тоже через виджет делал.
[12:22:40] foobarblah: кстати 100% купить стоит
[12:23:00] foobarblah: как-раз ModelForm там и поддерживает такое
[12:23:02] neoascetic: и в чем же плюшки по сравнению с моим вимом?
[12:23:11] foobarblah: плюшек нет можно сказать
[12:23:15] foobarblah: просто мороки меньше
[12:23:22] foobarblah: добало ставить все и настраивать
[12:23:29] foobarblah: а тут прям все в коробке и интеграция
[12:23:53] neoascetic: не понял - что ставить и настраивать?
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[12:23:59] foobarblah: плагины
[12:24:07] neoascetic: для каждого проекта - настройка? :)
[12:24:12] foobarblah: вим слишком снобиский
[12:24:14] foobarblah: не для каждого
[12:24:37] foobarblah: я компы часто меняю лол
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[12:24:53] neoascetic: не, я про то что любую ide - настроил единожды, и усе... ну и допиливать по необходимости
[12:25:06] neoascetic: для такого варианта я храню конфиги на github
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[12:25:22] foobarblah: я вообще не сторонник что-то настраивать
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[12:26:45] neoascetic: foobarblah, мак юзаешь? ^_^
[12:26:55] foobarblah: нет но было дло
[12:27:07] foobarblah: он меня заебал там нет инсерта лол
[12:27:31] aries.ua: а я вообще geany юзаю :)
[12:27:37] foobarblah: я тоже юзал
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[12:50:01] gigimon: foobarblah: хватит говорить лол
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[12:50:25] gigimon: neoascetic: в маке тоже можно настраивать софт, тот же вим, там не с 1 кнопкой сделать заебись
[12:51:12] foobarblah: gigimon: а ты че такой борзый?
[12:51:30] foobarblah: ты тут пад кем ходиш???
[12:51:31] foobarblah: ЛОЛ
[12:51:32] foobarblah: :)
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[12:51:51] neoascetic: gigimon, можно != нужно. у меня так было убеждение, что там почти все за пользователя решено - включил и работает. на втором месте - никс. ну а дальше винды всякие
[12:51:53] gigimon: что за неадекваты
[12:52:31] gigimon: neoascetic: эм, в никсе настраивать меньше чем в винде? не смеши. На маке только саму ОС особо не понастраиваешь, а софт бывает и покруче никсов в настройке
[12:52:33] neoascetic: впрочем, я не пробовал
[12:52:42] gigimon: просто обычно он покачественее и настраивать надо меньше
[12:52:46] nmk: никс, блядь
[12:52:48] nmk: лол, блядь
[12:53:02] gigimon: (:
[12:53:45] neoascetic: gigimon, эм, в никсе настраивать меньше чем в винде. не смишу. рабочее окружение на чистом дебиане для меня настроить - несколько команд в консоли. с виндой скорее всего выйдет сложнее
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[12:54:37] gigimon: :D
[12:54:40] gigimon: не верю)
[12:54:44] gigimon: как пользователь линуксов
[12:54:48] neoascetic: твое дело
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[12:55:12] gigimon: да и количество настроек тоже в линуксовых де больше, чем в винде и маке вместе взятых
[12:55:24] gigimon: ну, беру во внимание kde, gnome
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[12:55:37] neoascetic: я их не юзаю, спасибо
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[12:56:15] gigimon: ну, иначе сравнивать бессмысленно
[12:56:25] gigimon: я также могу сказать, что в линуксах мое окружение это консоль
[12:56:31] gigimon: которая из коробки готова к работе ;)
[12:56:55] gigimon: емакс поставил и все, делай что хочешь :)
[12:57:20] neoascetic: установить vim.nox, git и pip, затем вытянуть с гитхаба конфиг - реально дело нескольких команд в консоли
[12:57:34] neoascetic: *рабочее* окружение, епт
[12:58:06] gigimon: ну вот видишь, я считаю такое сравнение некорректно
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[12:58:15] neoascetic: почему?
[12:58:29] neoascetic: говорим же о рабочем окружении, ну
[12:58:29] gigimon: разный уровень окружений получается, как по мне
[12:58:48] gigimon: с таким же успехом, на винду поставить вим, пип, гит и стянуть конфиг - дело пары кликов в браузере
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[12:59:19] neoascetic: в чем разный? у меня есть желание юзать vim, git и zsh. даже ОС, в сущности, не важна. но развернуть это на никсах - быстрее
[12:59:45] neoascetic: особенно гит на винде, ага
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[13:01:00] nmk: neoascetic: всё это так, пока у тебя железо нормально поддерживается. вот у меня был ноутбук hp. если он уйдет в слип, то батарейка пропадает. я нашел этот баг ядерный, обновил ядро. качаю торренты, проц загржуен почти на 100%. гуглю, трейсю. выясняется, что виноват вайфай модуль. это блядь жизнь? :)
[13:01:46] neoascetic: ничего нет идеального. я тоже с вафлей мучился до некоторого времени.
[13:02:21] nmk: а на маках всё работает ;))
[13:02:26] neoascetic: но для меня поддержка всего моего железа, включая сканер отпечатсков пальцев - очень даже жизнь
[13:02:46] neoascetic: хз чо на маках, не юзал
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[13:33:13] mrDoctorWho.: Приветствую. Вопрос по PyGTK: после закрытия окна, повторно оно открывается абсолютно пустым. Как это фиксится?
[13:34:03] mrDoctorWho.: При закрытии нажатием на "крестик" или alt+f4. Если использовать кнопку "закрыть", которая скрывает окно, всё проходит отлично
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[13:36:18] mrDoctorWho.: Подключил к окну событие "destroy", но не помогает
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[13:38:22] mrDoctorWho.: Раньше была такая же проблема при нажатии кнопки, но это исправил скрытием окна
[13:38:30] mrDoctorWho.: тут так не выходит
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[15:27:43] mrDoctorWho.: что, никто не знает?
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[16:02:45] cawa-x: Ребят подскажите в стандартной библиотеке Tk есть компонет связанный с построением таблиц?
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[16:06:06] webninja: блин да чтож такое
[16:06:18] webninja: столько вопросов по всяким Qt, Tk
[16:07:56] mrDoctorWho.: /me спрашивал по gtk
[16:08:31] cawa-x: Ну, а что что тебе стоит подсказать если знаешь?
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[16:25:41] gigimon: а погуглить не?
[16:25:55] xa4a: что-то у питончега синтаксис какой-то ограниченный
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[16:26:10] xa4a: [a.lower() for b in [[1], 'QWE', 'asd']] if (len(b) > 1) for a in b]
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[16:26:36] mishok13: э?
[16:26:39] xa4a: нельзя сделать предикат по внешнему циклу в LC
[16:26:46] xa4a: или я не так пишу?
[16:27:04] mrDoctorWho.: не так пишешь
[16:27:29] xa4a: а как?
[16:27:38] mrDoctorWho.: скажи лучше что именно ты хочешь
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[16:28:05] mishok13: >>> [a.lower() for b in [[1], 'QWE', 'asd'] for a in b if len(b) > 1]
['q', 'w', 'e', 'a', 's', 'd']
[16:28:11] mishok13: вот это что-ли?
[16:28:33] xa4a: а, щит. у меня лишняя ]
[16:28:38] xa4a: mishok13: да
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[19:01:50] slav0nic: никто не в курсе где есть сервера с недорогим трафиком?
[19:04:24] gigimon: хетцнер?
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[19:05:02] nmk: slav0nic: скока трафа то? и локейшн какой?
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[19:06:09] slav0nic: пока нискока, это я так, на будущее или гоу на амазон?)
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[19:06:24] gigimon: да дорог амазон
[19:06:33] nmk: 500г в месяц??
[19:06:39] nmk: это помоему всё равно
[19:06:44] gigimon: угу
[19:06:53] gigimon: вроде у всех 1-2 тера включено
[19:07:04] slav0nic: )на линоде жлобство в этом плане
[19:08:13] gigimon: чет он дорог
[19:08:29] огыешсук: на х 10 терабайт в базовой комплектации
[19:08:42] gigimon: че такое х10
[19:08:48] огыешсук: плюс 32 гига рамы и 6 терабайт диску за жалкие полсотни евро в месяц
[19:08:49] slav0nic: 200гб на 20уешном впсе + 10уе за 100гб
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[19:09:47] nmk: огыешсук: да слушай. тут партнеры хостятся у немцев. как сеть отваливается, так мне всё мыло заваливает
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[19:10:01] gigimon: по таким ценам, возьмите два?
[19:10:05] nmk: че там с сплитбрейнами у них вообще не представляю
[19:10:08] gigimon: или у них дц отваливается?
[19:10:15] nmk: да хз
[19:10:20] nmk: timeout :)
[19:10:26] огыешсук: позавчера дц отвалился за пару минут, да
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[19:10:34] огыешсук: s/за/на
[19:10:48] огыешсук: но такое случается достаточно редко
[19:10:56] nmk: им везет, видимо :)
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[19:11:34] nmk: но у них там еще openvz, так что хз кто виноват. сами они буратины себе, или немцы..
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[19:30:29] Tony: у меня походу подходит к концу большой большой квест
[19:30:33] Tony: по регистрации ип в РФ
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[19:37:52] xa4a: большой-большой - это закрытие (as for ua)
[19:38:14] Tony: закрытие да, это покруче и поболее будет
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[19:38:32] Tony: в общей сложности от момента подачи документов в налоговую до возможности получения денег - месяц
[19:38:47] Tony: при том что дней простоя с моей стороны 0
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[19:41:20] bugi: Всем привет
[19:42:19] bugi: может странный вопрос, но как в питоне работать с битами, чтобы например в переменной у меня хранился не int а биты?
[19:42:33] xa4a: в переменной и так хранятся биты
[19:42:39] xa4a: так что вопрос странный, да
[19:43:13] bugi: >>> a = 101
>>> a << 1
202
[19:43:18] bugi: что-то не очень тру
[19:43:26] bugi: должно было быть 110 в итоге
[19:43:33] bugi: если бы там были биты :)
[19:43:36] mrDoctorWho.: мне кажется он имеет в виду представление данных в разных системах счисления
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[19:44:45] xa4a: bugi: а зачем ты это хочешь?
[19:44:54] bugi: битовые маски использовать
[19:45:01] bugi: для сравнения данных
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[19:45:20] xa4a: как ты в битовой маске ожидаешь, что 101 << 1 == 110 ?
[19:45:47] xa4a: э..
[19:45:52] xa4a: тактак. стоп
[19:45:57] xa4a: 101 - это не битовая маска
[19:46:02] bugi: это биты просто
[19:46:04] xa4a: это десятичное 101
[19:46:07] xa4a: если a = 101
[19:46:10] bugi: ну да
[19:46:17] bugi: это простое десятичное число
[19:46:20] xa4a: int(101, 2)
[19:46:27] mrDoctorWho.: Будет двоичное
[19:47:06] bugi: >>> a = int(101, 2)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: int() can't convert non-string with explicit base
[19:47:15] xa4a: In [5]: bin(int('101', 2) << 1)
Out[5]: '0b1010'
[19:47:54] mrDoctorWho.: [22:46:19] <xa4a> int(101, 2)
1-й аргумент str
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[19:49:02] bugi: походу bin это то что нужно, спасибо
[19:49:59] bugi: такс, а как сравнить то что выдает bin()? Оно возвращает строку
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[19:51:30] xa4a: ты не хочешь сравнивать то, что выдаёт bin
[19:51:42] xa4a: сравнивай то, что ты в bin() суёшь
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[19:52:05] xa4a: 10 & 8
[19:52:26] xa4a: bin - для человекочитаемого вывода только
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[23:55:31] xa4a: https://github.com/stochastic-technologies/goatfish монга на склайте. Вин же!
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