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[00:47:55] webninja: ° как такие штуки в символы превратить никто не подскажит?
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[04:02:09] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[12:48:15] metall1c: привет всем, никто джанго админку через https не юзал?
[12:48:27] neoascetic: а что большая разница?
[12:48:39] metall1c: суть проблемы в том, что после редактирования/добавления любых записей редирект идет уже не на https
[12:48:44] metall1c: а там у меня ничего нет
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[12:49:33] metall1c: например отредактировал юзера, нажал сохранить и меня отредиректило на http://site.ru/admin/auth/user/
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[12:49:53] metall1c: а был я на https://site.ru/admin/auth/user/
[12:50:26] metall1c: через middleware сделать если свой редирект, но может уже есть готовое решение?
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[12:51:34] neoascetic: по моему это как-то все нелепо
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[12:55:00] metall1c: т.е. просто по https заходишь, делаешь что хочешь и все работает?
[12:55:15] metall1c: редактируешь и остаешься на https?
[12:55:17] neoascetic: да, без редиректов
[12:55:29] neoascetic: вот только что добавил юзера, удалил - оставался на https
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[12:57:17] metall1c: почему же у меня на http перекидывает, странно
[12:57:36] neoascetic: только с юзером?
[12:58:12] neoascetic: модифицировал модель User?
[12:58:27] neoascetic: или UserAuth, не помню
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[12:59:09] metall1c: щас другое попробую
[12:59:45] metall1c: неа, со своими моделями аналогично
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[13:00:11] neoascetic: я про то и говорю
[13:00:13] metall1c: т.е. любые изменения в админке, после запроса post меня кидает на тот же урл, но без https
[13:00:20] neoascetic: попробуй с джанговскими
[13:00:25] neoascetic: с Site например\
[13:00:30] metall1c: да тоже
[13:00:54] neoascetic: хз
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[13:06:50] metall1c: я так понимаю тут утсанавливается http или https http://dumpz.org/162902/
[13:07:01] metall1c: это из django.middleware.common.CommonMiddleware
[13:07:14] metall1c: но оно у меня почему-то не срабатывает
[13:08:24] neoascetic: дебаж
[13:08:44] neoascetic: посмотри, почему request не secure
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[13:11:02] metall1c: так и есть, прописал свой мидлвар для теста http://dumpz.org/162904/
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[13:11:19] metall1c: в переменной qqq False
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[13:11:42] metall1c: т.е. request.is_secure() возвращает False
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[13:12:09] metall1c: не понятно почему?
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[13:12:16] metall1c: у меня урл открыт https://10.0.20.2/
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[13:15:10] metall1c: сертификаты у меня сгеренированные самостоятельно, браузер на них ругается, может поэтому request.is_secure() возвращает False >
[13:15:12] metall1c: ?
[13:16:01] xa4a: metall1c: https://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/django/http/__init__.py#L262
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[13:17:26] metall1c: xa4a: получается надо что-то в SECURE_PROXY_SSL_HEADER установить?
[13:17:29] metall1c: в настройках
[13:17:41] xa4a: может он в дефолтных настройках установлен
[13:17:52] xa4a: вставь туда дебагер и посмотри, ечго тебе не хватает
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[13:19:01] metall1c: куда, туда, объясни в двух словах
[13:19:24] metall1c: http://readthedocs.org/docs/django-secure/en/latest/settings.html#secure-proxy-ssl-header
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[13:21:57] metall1c: судя по def is_secure(self)
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[13:22:42] metall1c: вот здесь: if self.META.get(header, None) == value проверяется чтобы в request.META['header'] было https
[13:23:18] metall1c: но как я вижу в моей сгенерированной страничке в META вообще нет header
[13:23:45] xa4a: вставь туда дебагер и посмотри, ечго тебе не хватает
[13:23:53] xa4a: import pdb; pdb.set_trace()
[13:24:17] xa4a: или, если это в апаче/mod_wsgi, то winpdb/rpdb2
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[13:54:26] metall1c: хм
[13:54:28] metall1c: def is_secure(self):
return os.environ.get("HTTPS") == "on"
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[14:32:12] metall1c: меня смущает, почему у меня в request 'wsgi.url_scheme': 'http',
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[15:38:17] Ziberbulger: здравствуйте! есть такой вопрос: http://pastie.org/3419804
можно ли как нибудь запретить использование классовых методов для экземпляров класса?
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[15:44:02] neoascetic: можно. дав ему "магическое" имя
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[15:47:24] Ziberbulger: поподробнее, если можно
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[15:49:43] neoascetic: Ziberbulger, ну имя, начинающееся на __. Что говорит, что данный метод не предназначен для публичного юзания. Многие вещи в питоне - всего лишь условности
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[15:52:26] Ziberbulger: ага, уже прочел. не знал даже, что оно называется магическим. Но дело в том, чтобы я хотел бы, чтобы можно было делать A.some() а не A.__some__(), при этом при вызове a.some() было бы raise exception
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[15:52:59] Ziberbulger: думаю пока __getattribute__ посмотреть, вдруг он мне поможет
[15:54:01] neoascetic: можешь еще попробовать декоратор @classmethod переписать
[15:54:23] Ziberbulger: мысль, спасибо
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[15:57:52] Ziberbulger: и кстати, магические имена не помогают: http://pastie.org/3419900
если, конечно, имелся ввиду именно запрет (исключение), а не договоренность о том, что такие имена не следует использовать экземплярам
[16:00:21] neoascetic: магические имена - всего лишь соглашение
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[16:06:43] webninja: да
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[16:18:30] Ziberbulger: в итоге переопределил classmethod
[16:18:34] Ziberbulger: спасибо за совет!
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[16:34:41] xa4a: ну так сделай внутри метода проверку
[16:34:44] xa4a: первого аргумента же
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[16:36:26] neoascetic: xa4a, думаю, как декоратор в его случае более уместней. наверняка у него куча подобных методов
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[16:36:50] xa4a: угу
[16:37:19] xa4a: кстати, такое желание очень похоже на то, что он что-то делает не так
[16:37:36] xa4a: например использует наследование не по назначению
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[16:38:23] neoascetic: xa4a, мне так кажется что инструмент не соответсвует потребностям. вернее, есть непонимание особенностей работы инструмента
[16:39:07] xa4a: есть непонимание принципов ООП, в частности полиморфизма
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[16:44:45] neoascetic: webninja, с предыдущим оратором?
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[16:44:49] webninja: да
[16:44:56] neoascetic: ок
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[16:57:39] webninja: блин смотрел недавно сайт корпорации добра про darth
[16:57:40] webninja: ну норм.
[16:57:49] webninja: ваще была бы хорошая замена js у
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[17:00:19] neoascetic: чем
[17:00:26] neoascetic: ну в жопу
[17:00:31] neoascetic: наплодили
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[17:01:37] webninja: ну щаз юзают некоторые коффи скрипт этот
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[17:01:51] mrDoctorWho.: можно ли открыть файл для чтения и записи одновременно?
[17:01:52] webninja: js какой-то он не такой
[17:01:56] webninja: да
[17:01:59] webninja: w
[17:02:33] mrDoctorWho.: >>> a = file("x", "w")
>>> a.read()
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
IOError: File not open for reading

[17:02:42] neoascetic: webninja, по мне так coffeescript вполне хорош. как замена
[17:02:58] mrDoctorWho.: rw
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[17:05:12] webninja: это самое, а какие есть средства отладки для js?
[17:05:17] webninja: может ide?
[17:05:33] neoascetic: я юзаю webdev toolkit в хроме
[17:05:36] neoascetic: встроенный
[17:05:42] mrDoctorWho.: в firefox есть что-то.
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[17:05:52] neoascetic: вполне хватает. правда у меня не шибко сложные проекты
[17:06:09] neoascetic: главное - чтобы либы не пожатые :)
[17:06:18] webninja: не, это не айс
[17:06:24] webninja: а дарт типа предоставляет
[17:06:27] webninja: приведу еще пример
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[17:07:24] webninja: гугл чтобы строить веб-приложения сложные, типа докс или гмэйл использует GWT или как его. короче они пишут на яве которая потом компилируется в js. если js такой классный и мощный язык, зачем они это делюат?
[17:07:50] neoascetic: GWT - набор виджетов тоже
[17:07:57] mrDoctorWho.: гугл любит питон.
[17:08:01] neoascetic: а на яве - потому что индусов много, есть мнение
[17:08:04] mrDoctorWho.: YouTube на питоне.
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[17:08:14] webninja: да ладно?
[17:08:17] neoascetic: если он любит питон, отчего же дартс?
[17:08:25] mrDoctorWho.: вики пишет.
[17:08:25] webninja: ютуб это сервис там чего только нету я уверен
[17:08:28] neoascetic: ютуб создан не гуглом изначально
[17:08:34] mrDoctorWho.: Ну да.
[17:08:37] webninja: вебморда может и на пятоне а все остальное
[17:08:41] mrDoctorWho.: Но они могли его переписать.
[17:09:22] neoascetic: вообще, php - куль. ибо у нас в Приморье я не вижу вакансий для питонистов :( для phpшников - море
[17:09:25] webninja: ну вообщем дартс мне кажется норм. тема, но им еще работать и работать, не думаю что их darth VM будет работать резче V8 первое время
[17:09:30] neoascetic: но я его не знаю и учить не хочу
[17:09:33] webninja: одеск )
[17:09:45] webninja: фу пхп
[17:09:55] webninja: да отвратный язык на редкость
[17:09:56] neoascetic: чо одеск реальне хорош?
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[17:10:13] webninja: ну там можно пару штук косить в месяц. не сразу канешно, но можно.
[17:10:31] neoascetic: webninja, есть личный опыт?
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[17:10:54] webninja: да, я там пасусь время от времени
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[17:11:06] webninja: парсинг задания всякие высматриваю.
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[17:11:32] webninja: мне даже отзыв написали я седня заметил )
[17:11:34] webninja: Data Scraping/ Data Extraction
Alexander is King of Data Scraping. He was able to finish the project before deadline. We would like to hire him in future.
[17:11:40] webninja: :-D
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[17:39:32] xa4a: гмейлы и доксы перенесли на кложур
[17:39:58] xa4a: а GWT - слой для интеграции с джавовым бекендом
[17:40:03] xa4a: насколько я понимаю
[17:40:38] xa4a: гугл любит питон, использует js (поскольку сейчас выбора нет), и любит инновации/эксперементировать
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[17:41:35] d1ffuz0r: и собирать данные -_-
[17:42:07] xa4a: и да, "ну в жопу. наплодили" - это очень резонно :)
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[17:44:37] webninja: кложура
[17:44:41] webninja: я щаз как раз почитываю
[17:44:49] webninja: стэк явовских технологий ваще интересный
[17:45:05] xa4a: эм...нене
[17:45:08] xa4a: не та кложура
[17:45:10] xa4a: closure
[17:45:15] xa4a: который js-фреймворк
[17:45:37] webninja: ааа
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[18:22:50] metall1c: а что python.su так тупит?
[18:23:11] mrDoctorWho.: форум уже как неделю тупит.
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[18:25:10] metall1c: я вот про форум и спрашиваю
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[18:27:25] xa4a: slav0nic: ^
[18:28:21] slav0nic: =\ алафина гавнасайты грузят под 100%
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[18:35:55] slav0nic: ща ботов побаню, когда ссх раздуплится)
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[18:43:10] metall1c: подробно описал проблему http://python.su/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=83254#p83254
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[18:54:34] Magister Yoda: привет всем. как можно получить свойства файла из вкладки "Архив"? а конкретно интересует количество файлов в архиве.
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[18:56:23] mrDoctorWho.: len(zip.namelist)?
[18:56:26] mrDoctorWho.: Для zip
[18:57:23] Magister Yoda: интересует rar
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[18:59:24] mrDoctorWho.: тогда изучать print ", ".join(sorted(dir(object)))
[18:59:42] mrDoctorWho.: где object - объект, отвечающий за открытый архив
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[19:04:52] xa4a: какой-какой вкладки?
[19:05:28] Magister Yoda: а что смущает в слове Архив?
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[19:05:36] xa4a: смущает слово вкладка
[19:05:50] Magister Yoda: почему?
[19:05:58] xa4a: что за вкладка?
[19:06:01] xa4a: это канал о питоне
[19:06:03] Magister Yoda: ПКМ по rar архиву -> свойства
[19:06:09] Magister Yoda: и там вкладка
[19:06:16] Magister Yoda: это в Винже естественно
[19:06:19] xa4a: так с этого надо начинать
[19:06:20] Magister Yoda: *Винде
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[19:06:40] xa4a: с того, что вкладка - в диалоге свойства файла на винде
[19:06:40] Magister Yoda: ёпрст. опечатываться много стал
[19:07:13] Magister Yoda: ну... я думал итак понятно уже давно, что я Виндоузятник
[19:07:47] xa4a: ты виндузятник и поэтому тебе надо об этом каждый раз напоминать
[19:07:55] xa4a: а по теме - скорее всего, там в заголовках написано
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[19:09:10] Magister Yoda: стандартными средствами ведь этого не прочитать. нужна библиотека для работы с rar
[19:09:34] xa4a: похоже на правду
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[20:21:52] Martin: приветствую
[20:22:59] Martin: что вы можете сказать о пакетных системах в питоне? мне кажется, что они разрозненные... у того же Ruby вроде она единая (а у питона их несколько реализаций, прям как у ненавистного пхп)
[20:23:16] xa4a: пакетных систем несколько?
[20:23:24] xa4a: ну есть каноничный pypi
[20:23:31] xa4a: и к нему разные клиенты easy_install, pip
[20:23:52] xa4a: distribute + pip, думаю самое каноничное
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[20:24:55] Martin: > easy_install, pip
я их считал за несколько... вот в винде в гемор выливается с этими клиентами. в линуксе обычно пакетный менеджер разруливает хорошо.
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[20:26:35] Martin: правда я раби не пробовал еще... но с виду с его гемами как-то получше обстоят дела. но дух питона мне ближе по душе :).
[20:28:58] Magister Yoda: раби? я всегда думал руби...
[20:29:54] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (кому драгоценности, кому шаманы)
[20:29:58] Martin: вроде руби... не знаю. Python тоже правильней пайтон, но многие по-русски называют, как змею
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[20:32:10] d1ffuz0r: Phyton :D
[20:32:33] Martin: футон? :D
[20:32:41] d1ffuz0r: фитон
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[20:36:39] Martin: есть для создания гуи приложений что-то вменяемое (не древнее, IDE с десигнером. а не генераторы интерфейса в XML отдельно, конвертер в питон отдельно, как у PyQT/PySide)? ничего вменяемее чем SharpDevelop + IronPython не нашел. в винде выглядит нативно, но придется таскать зависимости (.NET + IP). и все же SharpDevelop уступает по анализу тому же PyCharm.
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[20:38:50] xa4a: нет ничего, насколько я знаю
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[20:40:11] d1ffuz0r: http://jenyay.net/Softreview/WxDesigner
[20:40:12] cutwater: Martin: а что религия запрещает использовать designer Qt ?
[20:40:21] cutwater: d1ffuz0r: wx говно и не нужно ящетаю
[20:40:23] cutwater: only Qt
[20:40:44] Martin: дык. он генерит в XML, потом скармливаем конвертеру. хочется IDE, мышекодинг формы :-[.
[20:40:48] xa4a: cutwater: религия просит чего-то интегрированного
[20:40:51] Martin: чем Wx говно?
[20:41:05] cutwater: Martin: эм... makefile ?
[20:41:09] cutwater: ниасилил?
[20:41:28] Martin: я не линуксоид
[20:41:38] Martin: хватило мне mingw
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[20:41:51] cutwater: Martin: инвалид?
[20:42:01] Martin: cutwater: тролль?
[20:42:17] cutwater: /me не понимает этих вендопроблем
[20:42:26] d1ffuz0r: мингв крутая штука, без неё на винде никак
[20:42:35] cutwater: d1ffuz0r: а вот это уже трололо
[20:42:45] d1ffuz0r: >_>
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[20:43:09] cutwater: Martin: ставь Qt Creator и пиши на С++
[20:43:13] cutwater: будь мужиком, блеать
[20:43:29] xa4a: qt creator няшка
[20:43:33] xa4a: для с++
[20:43:35] cutwater: +100500
[20:43:50] cutwater: xa4a: правда я не знаю он уже подружился с бустом?
[20:44:01] Martin: cutwater: дык. есть у меня C#. но нужен именно питон для того, что нужно быстро сделать
[20:44:09] cutwater: Martin: мне честно жаль тебя.
[20:44:22] Martin: cutwater: толсто же
[20:44:24] cutwater: Ты ниасилил С++, но у тебя есть C#, ты ниасилил линукс, но тебе нужен питон
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[20:44:56] Martin: cutwater: вообще что тут кретовщики делают в конфе про питон?
[20:45:23] cutwater: Martin: чтобы быстро сделать, напиши скрипт который будет собирать тебе из твоих ui файлов питоновский код.
[20:47:07] Martin: cutwater: я понимаю про автоматизацию ручного труда (проекты у меня батниками сами собираются)... но все же это не IDE с десигнером
[20:47:21] cutwater: Martin: use delphi, Luke
[20:48:03] cutwater: feel the power of the dark side
[20:49:03] Martin: cutwater: бяка. не люблю паскаль и все, что с ним связано. и преймуществ у делфи перед шарпом уже нет
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[21:38:59] webninja: пипец как можно быть python девелопером и сидеть на винде
[21:39:29] webninja: ставить либы из сраных экзех
[21:39:51] webninja: интересно как под вин чонить типа xapian-haystack поставить
[21:39:55] d1ffuz0r: хз, умвр
[21:40:01] d1ffuz0r: easy_install, pip
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[21:42:29] Martin: вай нот?
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[21:42:31] Martin: > пипец как можно быть python девелопером и сидеть на винде
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[21:49:12] xa4a: webninja: просто бывает что-то кроме веб-девелопмента
[21:50:06] Martin: да и под веб можно разрабатывать в большинстве случаев
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[21:50:35] xa4a: только если простые сайтики на голой джанге
[21:51:25] webninja: это не труЪ
[21:51:29] Martin: кроме джанги есть и другие фреймы. для хардкорщиков - с нуля.
[21:51:44] webninja: настоящие программеры сидят под линем и используют емакс или вим в качестве редактора кода.
[21:52:22] d1ffuz0r: скажите это нотчу :D
[21:52:41] Martin: d1ffuz0r: а он тут каким боком?
[21:52:55] d1ffuz0r: >>настоящие программеры сидят под линем и используют емакс или вим в качестве редактора кода
[21:52:58] Martin: webninja: даже программисты под макс и винду?
[21:53:14] xa4a: что за макс?
[21:53:15] Martin: а тот же Vim точно порт имеет под винду
[21:53:16] d1ffuz0r: он кодит под виндой в эклипсе
[21:53:25] Martin: тьфу. мак ось.
[21:53:26] webninja: взять хотябы простой факт. как правило в описании установки какого-то пакета идет сначала как ставить под линем debian/ubuntu. а внизу мелким шрифтом под заголовком For Windows users небольшой текст основной смысл которого можно выразить как "ебитесь сами"
[21:53:54] xa4a: очень аргументированно
[21:54:05] Martin: webninja: я только один раз встретился - с mysqldb. но нашел установщик под винду.
[21:54:11] Martin: остальное все спокойно ставилось
[21:54:12] d1ffuz0r: хорошая документация это sudo apt-get install <packetname> ?
[21:54:36] d1ffuz0r: описание установки*
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[21:55:49] webninja: ну хотябы
[21:56:11] bugi: [19:52:56] <d1ffuz0r> >>настоящие программеры сидят под линем и используют емакс или вим в качестве редактора кода
>>vim
мне кажется так не очень круто делать, чисто понты. В виме только редактировать можно, если быстро нужно
[21:56:22] webninja: можно еще задаться вопросом. что использует гвидо?
[21:56:47] webninja: хз люди работают не жалуются. я вот емакс юзаю
[21:57:47] webninja: а где еще можно. кстати скачал jetbrain эту IDE для питона все хочу глянуть но руки не доходят
[21:59:05] py_two: webninja: будь мужиком. Используй вим:)
[21:59:18] webninja: слишком сложно для меня
[21:59:28] d1ffuz0r: кому что удобно тот то и юзает, какой смысл навязывать то то
[22:00:14] webninja: это troll
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[22:01:17] webninja: ну вот я лично от винды отказался как кодить начал чуть больше года назад. как раз из-за массы сложностей в вин. все же лин как бы нативная платформа для пятона.
[22:01:59] Martin: чуть больше года я наоборот отказался от линукса
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[22:02:05] xa4a: гвидо юзает емакс
[22:02:34] Martin: под винду больше софта. и он вылизан получше.
[22:02:41] Martin: и больше альтернатив
[22:02:50] xa4a: Martin: ты в другом мире живёшь
[22:03:37] bugi: Martin: после генты не хочу обратно, хотя дома из-за домашних приходится юзать винду
[22:03:45] Martin: xa4a: в каком это? о_О
[22:04:01] bugi: Martin: тот же кде визуально лучше чем aero
[22:04:02] Martin: линь только на серверах для меня маст хэв
[22:04:12] xa4a: в котором софта под винду много, что есть из чего выбирать
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[22:04:21] Martin: bugi: фу. gnome2/xfce прятнее
[22:04:27] Martin: mate не смотрел
[22:04:43] xa4a: т.к. дело не в количестве ведь
[22:04:52] xa4a: вот под мак софта меньше, чем под винду
[22:04:56] webninja: еще соображения такого плана система на которой разработка идет такая же как и система для продакшена. это от массы всяких неприятных глитчей избавляет
[22:05:14] xa4a: webninja: и лучше вообще в серверной сидеть)
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[22:05:59] webninja: да ну, не. у меня вот один сервер на федоре, так уже при деплое постоянно какие-нибудь задачи возникают.
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[22:06:04] Martin: webninja: что мешает завести платформу для тестов? виртуалку с линуксом сейчас не проблема иметь
[22:07:14] webninja: у меня была в начале виртуалка ) а потом я заметил что провожу в ней практически все время.
[22:07:16] Martin: xa4a: про мак ничего не могу сказать. но софт всего скорее вылизанный (плюс проприентарщина есть вроде фотошопа). плюс это уникс, так что много с линя спокойно идет.
[22:08:41] Martin: webninja: некоторые кодят в виртуалке. мне не особо понравилось такое занятие. все же производительность ниже из-за виртуализации, чем на хосте. юзаю для тестов, эксперементов. дабы не засорять основную
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[22:09:16] webninja: ну это если какую ниубдь IDE вроде эклипса использовать
[22:10:05] webninja: хотя я на нетбиинс в начале кодил особых проблем с производительностью не замечал. хехе кроме как подвисаний после того как ставишь .
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[22:11:32] webninja: йооопт
[22:12:22] webninja: вообщем у меня есть форма серч. там чото набираешь. вылетают результаты и сбоку можно как бы делать разные фильтры - но это уже другая форма. как организовать взаимодействие чтобы при серче как то считывать данные фильтров.
[22:12:38] webninja: ?
[22:14:38] Martin: Javascript'ом считывать, не?
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[22:31:54] webninja: а если отключен?
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[22:31:59] webninja: должен быть способ
[22:33:03] Martin: применение фильтров после, сделать единую форму. ну вообще сейчас веб два ноль, JS обычно включен.
[22:33:43] Martin: сейчас часто используется JS в проекте, AJAX
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[23:17:52] bugi: Есть такая вот задача по sqlAlchemy:
Вот данные в базе https://url.odesk.com/5wbn1q
Как мне выбрать только одну запись для каждого master_ip с последним timestamp?
db.query(PingMaster).order_by(desc(PingMaster.timestamp)).distinct(PingMaster.master_ip).all()
такой вот запрос не работает, достает все
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[23:20:42] xa4a: webninja: понял? JS в проекте часто используется
[23:20:46] xa4a: а вообще - да, одна форма
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[23:21:19] webninja: сделал уже одну форму
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[23:23:11] xa4a: bugi: может какой-то SELECT MAX(timestamp) GROUP BY master_ip ?
[23:23:39] bugi: забыл о GROUP BY, спасибо
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[23:42:19] bugi: не, через group by не получается
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