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[01:21:03] opka: всем доброй ночи
[01:21:13] opka: скажите, как покрасивее запилить такой вот код:
if ok_list:
print "done with: "
for x in xrange(len(ok_list)):
print ok_list[x]
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[01:21:29] opka: может как-то через лямбду
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[01:25:34] alexey-grom: opka: а что ты вообще хочешь?
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[01:25:54] alexey-grom: Чтобы len не испльзовать можно enumerate
if ok_list:
print "done with: "
for index, item in enumerate(ok_list):
print index, item
[01:26:45] alexey-grom: и вообще зачем индекс?
for item in ok_list:
print item
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[01:29:14] opka: alexey-grom:
у меня есть список задач. Eсли задача выполнена успешно, то ее имя добавляется в список ok_list.append(task_name)
в итоге я хочу вывести спиок успешных задач, если такие есть. А если нет, то не выводить ничего:)
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[01:30:58] opka: for item in ok_list:
print item
а я всё индексы юзаю, как в си %)\
[01:31:20] alexey-grom: ну а так почему бы нет: if ok_list: print 'done with: ', ok_list
[01:31:47] opka: потому что вывод не красивый :)
[01:31:54] opka: ['']
[01:32:04] alexey-grom: print "done with: %s"%(', '.join(ok_list)) if ok_list else 'no done'
[01:32:41] opka: да. вот типа таког оя хотел a if b else c
[01:32:49] opka: спасибо alexey-grom
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[01:33:48] alexey-grom: если в ok_list не строки, нужно их еще будет конвертнуть
[01:34:01] opka: строки
[01:34:01] alexey-grom: чтоб join отработал
[01:34:07] alexey-grom: а, тогда ок
[01:34:14] opka: спасибо %)
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[02:32:42] py_two: у меня вопрос по дьянге имеется
[02:33:14] py_two: я создаю таблицы следующим батником:
@echo off
python manage.py syncdb
[02:33:46] py_two: а как мне собственно сделать синкдб, если models.py находится в подпапке ?)
[02:34:06] xa4a: прописать путь к аппликейшну в сеттингах
[02:34:44] py_two: xa4a: понял. спасибо
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[13:53:41] webninja: блин чо за жесть
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[13:55:35] webninja: короче вот человек пишет такая же тема
[13:55:39] webninja: The problem:
- sporadically I received error mails with weird errors: the request path of site A threw an error with a path only available on site B
- I set up an test page showing all our hosts within iFrames. A (concurrent) refresh showed the problem: the server mixed up the sites and sometime even combined parts of the different sites.
[13:56:03] webninja: apache/mod_wsgi никто не сталкивался с таким?
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[19:42:50] Psihrus: Здрасьте
[19:42:53] Psihrus: есть ктонибудь живой?
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[19:43:41] mrDoctorWho.: да
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[19:44:08] Psihrus: Немогли бы вы мне помочь с основами?
[19:44:16] mrDoctorWho.: может быть
[19:44:46] singularity is now online
[19:45:05] Psihrus: Мне нужна некоторая помощь с сокетами, располагаете знаниями в этой области?
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[19:45:21] mrDoctorWho.: немного
[19:45:26] mrDoctorWho.: совсем чуть
[19:45:30] singularity: Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его!
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[19:45:49] Psihrus: Мне много и не надо, просто как перекинуть переменную с одного компа на другой.
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[19:45:57] Psihrus: Не более
[19:46:18] mrDoctorWho.: ну отправка сокета в стринге
[19:46:18] Psihrus: Ну то есть с одного клиента отослать другому.
[19:46:21] mrDoctorWho.: потом эвал
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[19:46:32] mrDoctorWho.: Psihrus: тебе нужна сама отправка?
[19:46:39] Psihrus: И отправка и получка
[19:46:57] mrDoctorWho.: Psihrus: есть один пример http://simple-apps.googlecode.com/svn/simplechat/
[19:47:05] mrDoctorWho.: Psihrus: небольшой чат на сокетах
[19:47:29] Psihrus: Хорошо
[19:47:32] mrDoctorWho.: весьма простой
[19:47:42] Psihrus: а можно задать путь откуда импортить сокет.py?
[19:47:52] Psihrus: или только по дефолту
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[19:48:54] Psihrus: меня интересуют сокеты на 2.6 версии питона
[19:49:15] mrDoctorWho.: Psihrus: да
[19:49:41] mrDoctorWho.: Psihrus: sys.path.insert(0, "папка или .zip архив с socket") а затем import socket
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[19:50:45] Psihrus: Есть такой конструктор игр scirra я знаю его на уровне выше среднего, он поддерживает питон, я смогу реализовать онлайн с помощью сокетов?
[19:50:45] Andrey Popp: Psihrus: а зачем это нужно делать?
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[19:52:24] Psihrus: Что именно, зачем задавать путь ?
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[19:55:40] cutwater: mrDoctorWho.: вот за эвал надо убивать
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[19:55:50] mrDoctorWho.: это почему же?
[19:55:56] cutwater: да потому же
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[19:56:06] cutwater: mrDoctorWho.: ни разу не слышал о сериализации?
[19:56:12] mrDoctorWho.: нет
[19:56:23] cutwater: мдэ...
[19:56:30] cutwater: вопросов больше не имею
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[19:56:57] singularity: А где можно о нем услишать ?
[19:57:17] cutwater: о ком?
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[19:57:25] singularity: о сериализации
[19:57:30] cutwater: singularity: гугл например
[19:57:37] cutwater: man pickle туда же
[19:57:46] cutwater: man marshal туда же
[19:57:56] cutwater: man jsonpickle для особых извращенцев.
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[19:59:02] cutwater: нет вообще надо не подпускать к клавиатуре тех людей, у которых возникает идея применять eval не по назначению да и вообще
[19:59:28] singularity: "man" это типа в линуксе смотреть ?
[19:59:47] cutwater: singularity: это типа ключевые слова для ознакомления.
[19:59:56] cutwater: например можешь набрать их в гугле ;)
[19:59:59] cutwater: и узнать много нового
[20:00:10] cutwater: старые пациенты в сборе я смотрю
[20:00:14] cutwater: singularity: ну что ты как маленький
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[20:00:30] singularity: а где взять весь список таких слов ?
[20:00:39] cutwater: singularity: каких таких?
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[20:00:47] singularity: Типа сериализация и т.д.
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[20:01:05] cutwater: singularity: читать умные книжки, читать статьи.
[20:01:11] Psihrus: Может ктонибудь объяснить вобще механику сокетов и с чем их едят?
[20:01:19] cutwater: Psihrus: эм... книжек штоле мало?
[20:01:24] livevil is now away
[20:01:27] Psihrus: не одной нету
[20:01:30] cutwater: плохо искал
[20:01:32] Andrey Popp is now online
[20:01:49] singularity: cutwater: вот! читать умные книжки
[20:01:54] cutwater: Смотри в сторону Стивенс Unix сетевое программирование
[20:01:54] singularity: какие?
[20:01:58] cutwater: это не тебе
[20:02:08] Psihrus: Да там умными словами все написано
[20:02:09] cutwater: singularity: блеать да это тысячу раз обсуждалось. гугли.
[20:02:11] Psihrus: а мне надо на пальцах
[20:02:22] Psihrus: ибо мне дальше пересылки 1 единственной переменной не надо топать
[20:02:29] cutwater: Psihrus: ну да... тогда можешь повысить уровень интеллекта и попробовать еще раз
[20:02:38] Psihrus: что попробывать
[20:02:48] cutwater: Psihrus: http://docs.python.org/library/socket.html
[20:03:02] Psihrus: я не знаю английский
[20:03:03] cutwater: Psihrus: эм... а еще для начала выучить русский язык
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[20:03:13] cutwater: Psihrus: ты безнадежен. советую сразу об стенку.
[20:03:23] cutwater: избавь мир от себя.
[20:03:41] Psihrus: Какие тут все отзывчивые и понимающие :)
[20:03:45] Psihrus: <3
[20:03:53] cutwater: Psihrus: всегда рады помочь. приходите еще =)
[20:04:00] Psihrus: я не ухожу еще
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[20:04:22] cutwater: Psihrus: алсо будь ты чуть умнее обычной макаки, нашел бы в конце ссылки примеры на доступном языке "Python"
[20:04:39] cutwater: а http://translate.google.com тебе бы в этом помог.
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[20:05:54] Psihrus: Я не знаю английского а переводчик через жопу переводит.
[20:06:01] cutwater: /me обещал себе быть терпимей к новичкам... обещал себе быть терпимей к новичкам. аррр.
[20:06:01] maxim.zemlyakov is now online
[20:06:32] Psihrus: Ни какой нормальной документации на русском нету
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[20:06:46] cutwater: Psihrus: ты плохо искал
[20:06:50] Сволота: cutwater: терпимость достигается кнопкой "игнор"
[20:06:52] cutwater: книжку тебе уже подсказали какую читать
[20:07:04] Psihrus: Елки палки
[20:07:12] Psihrus: Зачем мне юникс?
[20:07:13] cutwater: Psihrus: ну что я могу сделать, если ты глуп.
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[20:07:38] cutwater: Psihrus: внезапно потому что там описываются сокеты в теории и на русском
[20:07:58] Psihrus: Что то я сомневаюсь что твой стивенс пишет на русском фамилия какая то не русская ни разу.
[20:08:11] cutwater: Сволота: мне кажется он долбоеб
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[20:08:26] Сволота: мне тоже :)
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[20:08:47] singularity: www.python.ru/files/book-ods.pdf <http://www.python.ru/files/book-ods.pdf>
[20:08:48] cutwater: Psihrus: http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/2881910/
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3406745/
[20:08:52] Psihrus: По мойму вы тролли.
[20:08:54] singularity: страница 307
[20:09:10] cutwater: singularity: ты слишком добр к нему.
[20:09:27] singularity: cutwater, почему ?
[20:09:56] cutwater: singularity: сразу кладешь в рот, даже с ссылкой на PDF и еще с номером страницы.
[20:10:31] erraen is now online
[20:10:41] Psihrus: Помойму это ты слишком высокомерен, а он просто хороший человек :\
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[20:11:05] cutwater: singularity: кстати теории в этой книги нет, просто перевод апи. для понимания этого мало
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[20:11:45] cutwater: Psihrus: я просто высокомерен. что я могу сделать, если тебя природа обделила интеллектом. ты не способен искать информацию самостоятельно и как птенец ждешь червячка.
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[20:12:15] Сволота: ну он же нашел эту конфу
[20:12:20] Psihrus: Ты можешь говорить лишь о том насколько я качественно могу ее искать а не о способности вобще ее искать.
[20:12:25] Сволота: хотя возможно кто подсказал
[20:12:39] Psihrus: Я искал две недели, не нашел, решил спросить у знающих людей.
[20:13:04] singularity: " Я искал две недели" Похоже на вранье
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[20:13:13] cutwater: +1
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[20:13:40] Psihrus: Ну естественно с перерывом на гигиену и питание.
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[20:14:04] cutwater: Psihrus: и все таки почитай те две книги, названия которых я тебе скинул
[20:14:11] Сволота: лучше бы английский выучил, легче бы искалось
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[20:14:19] cutwater: уж найти в pdf на торренте ты сможешь найти сам
[20:14:20] Psihrus: А ты уверен что это то что мне нужно?
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[20:15:20] singularity: Psihrus , (14-4)*8=80 часов безпрерывного гугления :-D
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[20:15:50] cutwater: он к счастью уже свалил. увы.
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[20:17:33] Psihrus: в
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[20:18:08] Psihrus: Тьфу
[20:18:17] Psihrus: Я не пользуюсь гуглом
[20:18:25] singularity: зря
[20:18:29] cutwater: во как
[20:18:34] cutwater: Psihrus срывает покровы
[20:18:45] Psihrus: Мне яндекс по душе как то
[20:18:48] cutwater: интриги, скандалы, расследования.
[20:20:04] cutwater: Psihrus: То може ти і м'яса не їси?
[20:20:22] Psihrus: По русски размовляй емае
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[20:21:13] cutwater: "классику" он тоже не знает =)
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[20:21:52] Psihrus: А должен?
[20:22:09] singularity: Psihrus: зачем тратить время на ругань в конфе ? Иди читать то что тебе посоветовали
[20:23:12] Psihrus: Не ну а че он агрится то
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[20:23:46] cutwater: :-D
[20:23:48] Psihrus: Просто попросил помочь нет надо про какую то классику нести чушь начать
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[20:26:14] Psihrus: http://s40.radikal.ru/i090/1203/d3/c6bb06ad82d6.png что он хочет от меня?*
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[20:27:00] mrDoctorWho.: это всё винда
[20:27:09] cutwater: Psihrus: забавно. есть подозрение на криво установленный питон
[20:27:28] cutwater: Psihrus: ставь линукс сразу
[20:27:32] cutwater: буть мужиком
[20:27:36] cutwater: *будь
[20:27:42] Psihrus: Нет уж я погею на винде пожалуй.
[20:27:46] Сволота: может питон не той версии?
[20:27:49] singularity is now online
[20:27:56] Сволота: их же теперь двое
[20:28:27] Psihrus: Так еще раз я чат не могу отлистать а то нечайно эскейп пару раз нажимал, как путь задать к модулю?
[20:28:46] cutwater: Psihrus: боюсь проблема лежит глубже чем ты думаешь
[20:28:49] Psihrus: Нет
[20:29:00] cutwater: самым простым вариантом решения будет снести питон и переустановить
[20:29:10] cutwater: естественно скачав с официального сайта
[20:29:35] Psihrus: И все таки не могли бы вы мне сказать как задать путь к модулю?
[20:30:13] cutwater: батенька, у тебя не найден системный модуль. очевидно проблема в самом питоне.
[20:30:31] cutwater: Psihrus: вообще-то через PYTHONPATH или sys.path но это тебе вряд ли поможет в данной ситуации
[20:30:32] singularity: "ставь линукс сразу буть мужиком"
ну это спорное заявления
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[20:31:19] cutwater: singularity: ок. вариант 2, купи мак =)
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[20:31:52] Psihrus: мак?
[20:31:55] Psihrus: Я гей чтоли
[20:31:56] Psihrus: вобще
[20:32:22] Psihrus: Не понимаю как можно сидеть на чем то кроме винды, весь софт под окна ведь
[20:32:33] cutwater: Сволота: зацени
[20:32:42] Сволота: ага :-D
[20:32:45] cutwater: Psihrus: ну да, а в линуксе голая консоль
[20:32:48] cutwater: и я тебе щас оттуда пишу
[20:33:13] Psihrus: нет, но основной софт под окна всеровно
[20:33:21] Psihrus: сейчас с этим мб и полегче
[20:33:27] Psihrus: но раньше точно так было
[20:33:33] cutwater: Сволота: я щас могу перейти на толстый троллинг, на тему она же платная... ну ты понел
[20:33:55] Psihrus: Винда платная?
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[20:33:57] Psihrus: не не слышал
[20:33:58] cutwater: Psihrus: толерантный совет, чтобы не выглядеть идиотом. не знаешь, не звизди
[20:34:18] Сволота: основной софт это игры чтоли?
[20:34:33] Psihrus: В том числе
[20:34:53] Сволота: ну вот... он геймер
[20:35:05] Сволота: нахуй с отрасли!
[20:35:16] cutwater: Сволота: ну че ты блин сразу.
[20:35:25] cutwater: я вон тоже иногда балуюсь.
[20:35:38] Psihrus: хм
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[20:35:42] Psihrus: я не геймер если чо
[20:35:46] cutwater: Сволота: на работе для этих целей PS3 стоит =)
[20:35:50] Psihrus: на компе 1 игра только 3 года уже
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[20:36:12] cutwater: Psihrus: если вовер или линейщик, то это значительно хуже
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[20:36:23] Psihrus: кому хуже то
[20:36:27] Сволота: /me тоже любитель поиграться, но зачем чисто игровую платформу тащить в ынтырпрайз?
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[20:36:55] cutwater: Psihrus: твоему генофонду
[20:38:02] cutwater: Сволота: чисто игровые платформы это PS3 и XBOX, а винда это эдакий гибрид бульдога с носорогом
[20:38:05] Psihrus: Какие умные слова. Генофонд не измениться от того что я в ск побегаю несколько часиклв.
[20:38:46] cutwater: Psihrus: уже изменился. хотя может ты от рождения такой. но то что русский ты не знаешь - факт.
[20:38:52] cutwater: Psihrus: http://tsya.ru
[20:39:06] singularity: А в конфе можно человека забанить ?
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[20:39:26] cutwater: singularity: ну вон mishok13 пришел. можешь его попросить
[20:39:47] cutwater: но он ничего плохого не сделал =) дай уже поразвлекаться тоскливым воскресным вечером
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[20:40:02] Psihrus: http://naxyu.yahooeu.ru/
[20:40:18] cutwater: singularity: хотя соврал. теперь можно и банить
[20:40:23] singularity: Ну вроде slav0nic и xa4a онлайн
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[20:40:48] Сволота: зачем банить? у жабберклиентов есть игнор
[20:40:53] mishok13: никого банить не будем
[20:40:57] singularity: не знал . Улыбнуло
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[20:41:44] singularity: Сволота все увидел
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[20:42:26] Psihrus: Хреновый короче у вас скилл троллинга, всем чмаф идите уменьшайте свое ЧСВ.
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[20:42:44] ds.tihonov is now дома! :)
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[20:43:52] cutwater: эх... а вечер так хорошо начинался
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[20:52:49] cutwater: ку
[20:52:57] farella: а вот есть реальный смысл здесь торчать?
[20:53:15] cutwater: а с какой целью интересуетесь
[20:53:52] farella: да так, чисто философски..
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[21:08:47] xa4a: farella: здесь можно пожаловаться на тяжёлую жизнь
[21:08:51] xa4a: пообсуждать выборы
[21:09:03] xa4a: поперекидываться какашками
[21:09:41] cutwater: и здесь выборы
[21:09:44] cutwater: нет пути
[21:09:49] xa4a: а где ещё?
[21:10:06] farella: гг
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[21:29:14] solomon243: Привет всем
[21:29:31] singularity: solomon243 Привет
[21:30:09] solomon243: хочу задать ламерский вопрос. На сон грядущий.
[21:30:25] singularity: Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его!
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[21:31:57] singularity: Никто не читает тему или я не так понимаю то что в ней написано ?
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[21:32:57] Сволота: это зависит от жабберклиента, в некоторых неудобно читатать тему
[21:33:35] solomon243: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'instance' and 'int' -- ругается Питон
[21:34:15] singularity: можно код ?
[21:34:16] Сволота: определи __add__ для первого аргумента
[21:34:33] solomon243: ща код в студию
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[21:36:49] solomon243: eastereggcounter = 0 def easteregg(counter): if counter < 5: counter = counter + 1 return counter else: showinfo("","")
далее по коду
[21:36:54] solomon243: easteregg(eastereggcounter)
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[21:37:39] singularity: в counter буковки
[21:37:58] singularity: Сволота: или мне кажеться ?
[21:38:49] Сволота: в теме написано про dumpz.org
[21:39:03] Сволота: рекомендую её почитать
[21:39:18] solomon243: Спасибо. Прочитал.
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[21:46:26] solomon243: А как dumpz.org пользоваться??
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[21:47:57] singularity: вставить код ,кликнуть на питон , нажать отправить , скопировать с адресной строки ссылку
[21:48:05] singularity: вставаить сюда
[21:50:53] solomon243: http://dumpz.org/173103/
[21:50:59] solomon243: так??
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[21:52:35] singularity: да
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[21:53:30] solomon243: Мне понравилось!
[21:54:13] Сволота: оно должно 1 возвращать, да?
[21:55:19] solomon243: Ну да. Я на это рассчитывал...
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[21:57:22] Сволота: странно, однако
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[21:57:53] xa4a: у тебя по коду где-то eastereggcounter переопределятеся
[21:57:53] solomon243: мой расчет странен??
[21:58:24] solomon243: Вот и я про то подумал, хотя сам второй день Питоном занимаюсь...
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[22:00:48] Сволота: допиши int или float и посмотри результат
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[22:01:34] solomon243: Народ, а что можно про типизацию в Питоне почитать??
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[22:01:50] cutwater: solomon243: ну эм... Лутца например
[22:01:51] solomon243: в первой строке перед eastereggcounter ??
[22:01:54] cutwater: solomon243: с английским как?
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[22:02:25] solomon243: cutwater: Нормально, уверенно
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[22:02:32] cutwater: тогда docs.python.org
[22:02:38] cutwater: http://docs.python.org/
[22:02:45] xa4a: solomon243: перед counter = counter + 1 сделай print counter
[22:02:58] cutwater: и еще лучше print repr(counter)
[22:03:04] solomon243: cutwater: ну, в принципе я готов к этому...
[22:03:16] solomon243: ща print сделаемъ...
[22:03:27] cutwater: solomon243: Library Reference и Language Reference ответят на многие вопросы
[22:03:57] solomon243: Просто я как всегда хотел по-быстрому... ну вы меня поняли...
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[22:05:54] cutwater: solomon243: мы тебя то конечно поняли. но так как экстрасенсы только в зомбоящике существуют, то по быстрому не выйдет
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[22:07:21] solomon243: Выдает 0, 1, 0 и не ругается теперь...
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[22:08:41] xa4a: значит всё ок
[22:08:54] solomon243: НО ПОЧЕМУ ?? :)
[22:09:32] solomon243: нужно таки будет http://docs.python.org/ распечатать полностью и скурить...
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[22:10:05] xa4a: потому что ты что-то делаешь не так
[22:11:16] cutwater: xa4a: слушай, вопрос такой. ты когда что-то пишешь свое, какой-либо проект, название даешь сразу. или есть рабочее черновое, а потом уже придумываешь название etc.
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[22:12:08] xa4a: эм.. я не писал проектов своих
[22:12:11] xa4a: наверна потом
[22:12:13] xa4a: !projname
[22:12:19] solomon243: точно. Нужно The Python Language Reference как следует читануть. Чтобы просветление нашло
[22:12:25] Сволота: /me иногда не может придумать как назвать переменную или функцию
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[22:12:58] Andrey Popp: http://www.classnamer.com/
[22:12:58] cutwater: :-D
[22:14:44] solomon243: :)
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