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[00:41:28] Мозгошредер: Чем сейчас кошерно читать xml, lxml.etree?
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[00:44:01] Tony: etree разве читает xml вообще?
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[00:44:36] Мозгошредер: Ну parse() вроде как есть
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[00:54:33] Мозгошредер: Ладно с xml, что лучше использовать для юниттестинга? Стандартный unittest или что-то левое?
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[01:13:57] gigimon: Мозгошредер: lxml и unittest2
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[01:38:51] Мозгошредер: gigimon: а вот если запускать тесты unittest`а стандартного то как лучше это делать? Его запускалкой или написать свою, а в каждом модуле делать метод suite(), возвращающий сьют модуля, или вообще по-другому?
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[01:40:02] Мозгошредер: или через nose?
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[02:39:48] DjangoBoy: хей-хей)
[02:39:53] DjangoBoy: привет, ребятки)
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[02:45:11] DjangoBoy: питон - это реально тру)
[02:45:41] DjangoBoy: после крестов он такой кошерный)
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[15:23:03] Мозгошредер: Я наверное уже надоел, но что тру пацаны используют для мокинга, какую-то либу или просто манкипатчат руками?
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[15:24:36] deepwalker: пишут свою конечно же
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[15:24:57] deepwalker: потому что существующие же все шлак, и надо все переписать
[15:25:37] Мозгошредер: Это было с иронией или без?
[15:27:16] deepwalker: http://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=mock&submit=search а вот смотри, сколько всего можно перписать
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[15:56:30] melistraza808: с той ссылкой уже чутка рабобрался
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[17:34:19] Мозгошредер: It's not just you! http://docs.python.org looks down from here.
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[17:43:49] wiz: доки на монгу переводят походу
[17:44:19] alexey-grom: а я понять не мог что pip не работает
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[17:46:18] webninja: крутаны )
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[17:49:05] webninja: жостко уже 3300+ видосов с туба засосало
[17:49:24] webninja: было быстрее, но видимо на выходных на порнотубах аншлаг
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[18:12:14] gigimon: доки стали прямо летать
[18:12:17] gigimon: вообще мегабыстро
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[18:14:47] nmk: gigimon: локальная копия тоже очень быстро летает ;)
[18:15:31] gigimon: хранить локально, зачем?)
[18:15:52] nmk: что бы быстро открывалось, не зависело от интернета и прочих падений. там же голая статика.
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[18:16:24] Martin: добрый день. возможно ли во втором питоне обойтись без указания кодировки вроде "# -*- coding: UTF-8 -*-" в каждом сорце? чтобы автодетект работал или в одном место уж указать кодировку по умолчанию (а так с кириллицей геморой прям)
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[18:18:12] deisler: народ кто-нибудь bb-freeze юзал?
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[18:21:15] webninja: юзай макрос для емакс пропиши в yasnippet
[18:22:01] Martin: webninja: это мне?
[18:22:06] webninja: да
[18:22:31] gigimon: Martin: любая IDE позволяет это настроить
[18:22:39] Martin: ну разве что шаблоны файлов и остаются
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[18:23:01] Martin: в третьем конечно лучше с поддеркой из-за UTF из коробки
[18:23:13] xa4a: Martin: твоя проблема в том, что ты кириллицу в исходники пихаешь
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[18:23:36] gigimon: (:
[18:23:52] Martin: xa4a: а что мне делать? обсолютно все выносить в шаблоне и не делать комментариев / писать по-английски?
[18:24:00] xa4a: да
[18:24:11] gigimon: юзать gettext
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[18:25:33] Martin: ну со строками ладно, все в шаблонах. ругается по сути на мои комментария.
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[18:37:10] webninja: пиши на английском
[18:37:26] webninja: язык шекспира
[18:37:48] Martin: русский более велик и могуч ^_^
[18:38:18] webninja: т.е. ты хочешь сказать в анлийском меньше выразительных средств?
[18:39:05] webninja: я себе сниппет сделал
[18:39:15] webninja: пишу в начале фаайла utf8 + [TAB] и все
[18:39:22] Martin: да про костыли такие я знаю
[18:39:32] webninja: это не костыли
[18:39:42] Martin: тут даже просто темплейт файла сойдет
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[18:40:52] Martin: не костыль - автодетект кодировки. или указание где-то кодировки по умолчанию. почему-то в третьем питоне решили эту проблему (хотя там все UTF'ное).
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[18:42:31] gigimon: Martin: блин, юзай 3 версию
[18:42:36] gigimon: пробелма только у тебя в голове
[18:42:37] gigimon: вот честно
[18:42:45] gigimon: второй ветки питона куча лет
[18:42:53] gigimon: тогда про утф8 не думали
[18:43:05] gigimon: да и что костыльного в указании вначае файла кодировки?
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[18:44:55] Martin: в том, что это можно и определить самому интерпретатору
[18:45:46] webninja: каким образом? зачем тогда в хтмл файлах пишут? пусть бы браузер определял тебе
[18:45:48] mrDoctorWho.: есть какая-нибудь функция в питоне для применения прав (chmod) рекурсивно (как chmod -R)?
[18:46:02] mrDoctorWho.: для папки и всего содержимого
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[18:46:19] Мозгошредер: for
[18:46:39] mrDoctorWho.: ну это понятно, может есть что-то другое?
[18:46:41] gigimon: mrDoctorWho.: разве маски не понимает chmod?
[18:46:48] Martin: написать свою рекурсивную функцию? еще можно в шеле запускать команду
[18:47:04] webninja: а зачем тебе? юзай фабрик
[18:47:12] mrDoctorWho.: как например shutil.rmtree и os.remove
[18:47:19] Martin: и я бы юзал третью ветку дальше, но она не является мейн стримом. все пока заточено под вторую ветку. хоть ей лет 10, не меньше, но UTF строки в ней есть. можно было бы сделать компромисс между совместимостью и удобством.
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[18:51:18] Мозгошредер: Сделали компромисс
[18:51:29] Мозгошредер: # -*- encoding:utf-8 -*-
[18:52:34] melistraza808: -*- для красоты ! ?:)
[18:52:45] gigimon: такой keyword
[18:52:47] Martin: там регуляркой парсится
[18:52:53] melistraza808: аа
[18:53:06] Martin: хоть Этот файл имеет такую супер кодировку
[18:53:08] melistraza808: осознал свою вину, меру стенепь, глубину (молчу )
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[18:55:06] mrDoctorWho.: [21:52:34] <melistraza808> -*- для красоты ! ?:)
[21:52:45] <gigimon> такой keyword
я замечал что питону без разницы, что написано
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[18:55:36] mrDoctorWho.: пусть хоть /* coding: utf */ или вообще # coding: utf
[18:55:41] Martin: дык. регулярка.
[18:56:10] Martin: coding[=:]\s*([-\w.]+)
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[19:01:21] xa4a: mrDoctorWho.: os.walk
[19:01:43] mrDoctorWho.: xa4a: ну это for'ом получается
[19:02:09] xa4a: а ты файлы сам создаёшь?
[19:02:14] xa4a: и каталоги
[19:02:35] mrDoctorWho.: копирую
[19:02:52] xa4a: может os.umask?
[19:03:39] mrDoctorWho.: и что с ним делать?
[19:04:34] xa4a: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask
[19:04:51] xa4a: выставить в такой, какой ты хочешь перед копированием
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[19:05:23] mrDoctorWho.: понятно, спасибо
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[19:07:00] mrDoctorWho.: но не помогает
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[19:14:08] mrDoctorWho.: можете подсказать, что не так:
def r_chmod(path):
os.chmod(path, 0755)
for root, dirs, files in os.walk(path):
for dir in dirs:
aDir = os.path.join(root, dir)
os.chmod(aDir, 0755)
for filename in files:
aFile = os.path.join(root, filename)
os.chmod(aFile, 0755)
К главной папке (path) задаёт права 0755, к файлам тоже, а к подпапкам в path не применяет
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[20:58:33] xa4a: страпелька?
[20:58:49] melistraza808: кто-то может помоч организовать запись данных из формы, в базу sqlite3
http://dumpz.org/177502/
???
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[21:00:00] Martin: web.py фрейм?
[21:00:20] xa4a: в чем проблема?
[21:00:22] melistraza808: да
[21:00:38] Martin: мне кажется, что хватит просто изменить коннект для базы...
[21:00:38] melistraza808: хз не умею, а найти не могу как
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[21:04:53] melistraza808: в инете читаю, пробую не получается даже просто с базой поработать
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[21:16:06] melistraza808: конект там случайно оказался, то помойму на постгрес
[21:16:20] melistraza808: я тыкал
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[21:59:56] melistraza808: ну так что кто-то поможет ?
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[22:27:03] Martin: melistraza808: вы ничего не знаете?
[22:28:19] Martin: http://webpy.org/sessions/example
вот пример. там закомментирован конфиг БД для sqlite.
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[22:28:52] Martin: по-идее код должен работать после такого изменения типа БД
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[22:41:31] melistraza808: вообще ничего не знаю пока сижу учу
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[22:41:48] Martin: только начали питон учить?
[22:42:27] some_user: кто то юзал pytesser lib для чтения текста на картинке?не знаете как бороться с исключением WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified?
[22:43:09] some_user: есть таков проэкт на гуглкоде http://pytesser.googlecode.com/svn/trunk
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[22:45:18] xa4a: some_user: например, читать, что написано в сообщении об ошибке
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[22:48:42] Martin: melistraza808: хех. спасибо. нашел на сайте webpy хороший пример настройки wsgi ^_^. завтра на сервер буду ставить.
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[22:52:53] some_user: File "modules\pytesser.py", line 61, in image_to_string
call_tesseract(scratch_image_name, scratch_text_name_root, lang, psm)
File "modules\pytesser.py", line 45, in call_tesseract
proc = subprocess.Popen(args)
File "C:\Python27\lib\subprocess.py", line 672, in __init__
errread, errwrite)
File "C:\Python27\lib\subprocess.py", line 882, in _execute_child
startupinfo)
WindowsError: [Error 2] вот проблема с пониманием этого, что именно от меня хочет скрипт
[22:53:29] Martin: это стек вызовов
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[22:54:07] Martin: и явно ругается, что не может найти какой-то файл
[22:54:15] Martin: точнее указанный
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[23:00:02] some_user: наверное чото через os.path.join(os.getcwd(), filename) нада наковырять
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[23:04:37] some_user: Popen это по моему выполнение внешнего скрипта?
[23:04:58] deepwalker: не, это открывает туннель в астрал
[23:05:05] some_user: а, точно
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[23:07:14] deepwalker: а еще вопросы какие-нибудь?
[23:07:20] deepwalker: а то что-то скучно
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[23:10:29] melistraza808: Martin: а мне то за что спасибо? ну по сути да только перешли к маломальски серьёзному изучению
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