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[00:02:27] gigimon: хм, а что, для джанги нету ничего нормально для создания тэгов?
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[00:05:24] gigimon: да чета они оба странные
[00:06:08] gigimon: первый в джанго-админке к модели не появляется, второй - не принимает в админке пустое значение при добавлении
[00:06:19] gigimon: да и первый большой какой-то :) выбрал taggit
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[00:07:15] xa4a: а вообще
[00:07:23] xa4a: для тагов сагодня модно FluidDB
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[00:09:03] xa4a: это сервис
[00:09:07] xa4a: облачный
[00:09:16] xa4a: для глобального хранения тегов
[00:09:18] gigimon: ой, танунафиг же
[00:09:32] gigimon: я буду несовременным
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[07:12:28] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[08:26:21] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[09:57:04] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[14:07:44] toxi-kb: доброго дня, ещё и тут продублирую) авторы не отвечают, поэтому спрошу здесь про publicauth... При аутентификации через facebook в скрипте есть строка:
FB.init("{{ request.facebook.api_key }}", "{% url publicauth-facebook-xdreceiver %}");
У меня не подгружается api_key, в связи с этим вопрос: в чем может быть проблема и можно ли просто указать api_key в этой строке, а не вытаскивать из параметра? И ещё странная проблема есть... После аутентификации всплывающее окно не закрывается, может быть кто-то подскажет в чем проблема? Всем заранее, большое спасибо :)
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[14:47:42] slav0nic: не юзал, но ты аппу на фейсбуке создал, ключи получил?
[14:47:50] slav0nic: если oauth
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[16:18:34] toxi-kb: да да, все сделал, я если прописываю вместо параметра "{{}}" свой "api_key", все нормально работает, просто странно, что в примере от автора из settings достает параметр, а у меня нет )
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[16:58:24] slav0nic: никто не встречал кнопкотыкательных линуксовых фтп серверов?
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[17:04:15] webninja: vsftpd?
[17:04:24] webninja: как понять кнопкотыкательных?
[17:04:45] slav0nic: для тупых программистов, которые ничего кроме гуя не видели)
[17:05:04] slav0nic: mount --bind их не устраивает, на винде не так было :|
[17:05:53] slav0nic: погугли вроде реально беда) виртуальные каталоги все делаются через симлинки или моунт, и все серваки юзают честный chroot) а не как в винде, средствами самого сервера
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[17:39:36] deepwalker: они же программисты, пусть напишут гуй :P
[17:39:41] deepwalker: если доку почитать никак
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[18:18:23] xa4a: slav0nic: python -m SimpleHTTPServer ?
[18:18:41] xa4a: + http://stackp.online.fr/?p=28
[18:19:14] xa4a: сделать ярлыки "отдать файл" и "принять файл"
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[18:19:42] slav0nic: ))
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[18:21:11] xa4a: да, кстати, а что, ftp ещё кто-то пользуется? зачем?
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[18:23:54] slav0nic: иди бухгалтершам расскажи) умник
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[18:24:57] xa4a: wait, а как бухгалтерши связаны с фтп?
[18:25:19] slav0nic: это уже не ко мне) отчёты выкладывают и тп
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[18:25:37] xa4a: ну им-то главное чтобы примонтированно было к фс
[18:25:47] xa4a: а дело админа - сделать всё попроще
[18:25:56] xa4a: попроще = самба/nfs
[18:26:00] slav0nic: программеры решили поиграть в админов) я не возражаю)
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[18:26:47] xa4a: кнопкотыкательно - в винде расшарить папки по самбе
[18:26:50] xa4a: фтп не нужно
[18:26:50] slav0nic: в принципе их кри души понять можно) ничего такого чтоб поставил, наклацал и завёл - нет
[18:27:00] slav0nic: линупс стандарт)
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[18:27:36] xa4a: sshfs
[18:28:15] slav0nic: у вас гугле тоже всё так?)
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[18:28:45] slav0nic: я тебе про блондинок, а ты мне про sshfs)
[18:29:01] slav0nic: я помню как друг лет 5 назад рассказывал про дискеты и линукс в телефонном режиме)
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[18:30:56] xa4a: slav0nic: о, точно! бухгалтерши могут отчёты сдавать в гугл докс 8)
[18:31:14] slav0nic: ))
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[18:31:19] slav0nic: он тоже у нас стандарт)
[18:31:21] xa4a: и ходят слухи, что скоро его можно будет прозрачно примонтировать к ФС
[18:31:27] slav0nic: ж))
[18:31:29] slav0nic: вот оно!
[18:31:55] slav0nic: ну а вообще я чувака понять могу) столько фтп, а сделать банальным мапинг директорий без mount --bind - хуй
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[18:34:24] xa4a: не парсится.
[18:34:27] xa4a: что столько фтп?
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[18:38:25] slav0nic: xa4a, я про к-во демонов под линукс
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[18:45:19] webninja: скажи им что это не твои проблемы, есть средства - пусть осваивают :-D
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[21:34:46] webninja: пацаны
[21:34:50] webninja: вот хтмл например
[21:34:56] webninja: не парсится регулярками
[21:35:02] webninja: как это по умному говорят? )
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[21:37:33] aries.ua: Говрорят - "сайт сделан руками из ж..пы"
[21:37:50] aries.ua: и парсингу не подлежит
[21:38:01] webninja: нет, там есть название какое-то
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[21:40:20] aries.ua: It's site incorect
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[21:42:06] webninja: xa4a знает
[21:42:11] webninja: я уверен
[21:42:30] xa4a: это значит, что html - не регулярная грамматик
[21:42:32] xa4a: а
[21:42:58] xa4a: а регулярные выражения (внезапно!) парсят только регулярные грамматики.
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[21:43:40] xa4a: хотя с рекрсивным расширением для регекспов, вроде, можно и хтмл парсить полноценно
[21:44:00] xa4a: !g parse html regexp site:stackoverflow.com
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[21:47:30] webninja: во! спасибо. на форуме человек спрашивает актуальную регулярку для парсинга гугла лол.
[21:49:49] xa4a: это нарушение TOS, вощем-та
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[21:52:32] webninja: хех
[21:52:36] webninja: а чо они сделают?
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[21:52:58] webninja: олсо а если бегать по сайтам подписываясь Googlebot
[21:53:01] webninja: чем это черевато?
[21:54:14] xa4a: ничем
[21:54:21] xa4a: наверно
[21:54:54] webninja: гугл сопротивляется парсингу
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[21:55:00] webninja: особенно спец-запросы не любит
[21:55:05] xa4a: что сделают? - забанят
[21:55:07] webninja: inurl: intitle:
[21:55:18] webninja: а, ну банят, да. каптчу суют
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[21:55:58] xa4a: применят какой-то ugly-фильтр к фоточке в плюсе :)
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[21:57:49] xa4a: что ещё… будут грамматические ошибки в письма вставлять
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[21:58:03] xa4a: /me пошёл, злостному парсеру выдал китайских порносайтов в поисковой выдаче
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[22:09:32] webninja: бгг китайские порносайты
[22:09:34] webninja: есть такие?
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[22:10:46] webninja: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=young+guy+fuck+milf+blonde попроси лучше чтобы тубы убрали из SERP
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[22:12:59] webninja: этож никуда не годится
[22:14:10] xa4a: ну как бы.. ты ж сам выключил safesearch, небось
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[22:14:50] xa4a: а, гм.. или он только в картинках
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[22:15:24] xa4a: не, в обычном поиске тоже есть SafeSearch
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[22:15:53] xa4a: http://support.google.com/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=510&rd=3
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[22:22:04] xa4a: https://www.mi5.gov.uk/careers/showjob.aspx?id=134
[22:23:05] webninja: зачем мне сэйфсерч. я хочу чтобы убрали тубы и поставили мои сайты и блоги. без видео! с ссылкой на платный контент!
[22:23:28] webninja: никто не хочет больше платить за порно
[22:23:36] xa4a: так работает рынок
[22:23:36] webninja: из-за парадов тубов в выдаче
[22:23:53] xa4a: делай качественный контент @ руби бабло
[22:24:22] xa4a: сделай свою бесплатную трубу с адсенсом :)
[22:24:25] webninja: у меня лэйбл есть небольшой. даже при высоком качестве контент никто, НИКТО не рубит бабла почему-то.
[22:24:35] webninja: адсенс нельзя.
[22:24:47] webninja: на порно
[22:24:54] xa4a: а, гхм..
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[22:25:07] webninja: вообще эта вся борьба с копирайтом весьма неоднозначна.
[22:25:11] webninja: вот щаз как раз читаю
[22:25:19] webninja: Этот винипух с серьезным лицом рассказывает об ордах хакеров и пиратов, которые "грабят авторов и лишают их всякого стимула к творчеству". Только совсем забывают сказать, что с каждых 100 рублей автор получает меньше 10! Так кто кого грабит? Лучше уж я напрямую заплачу автору, чем буду кормить дармоедов-толстосумов.
[22:25:23] xa4a: это не борьба с копирайтом ;)
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[22:25:52] xa4a: тогда сделай туб про котов и поставь на него адсенс
[22:25:55] webninja: ну и что? канешно лучше, но он платит? нет канешно, никто не платит и не будет платить. у нас в стране, да и в мире меценатство не в моде.
[22:26:35] xa4a: в мире - много тратят на charity, а про покупку фильмов/музыки вообще вопросов не возникает
[22:26:42] webninja: ну с порно та же тема. огромное кол-во халявы снизило ценность и рентабельность обычного контента. manwin всех обули.
[22:28:13] xa4a: снизило цену != снизило ценность
[22:28:17] webninja: я работал с ребятами из vivid, c hustler даже такие зубры и то переживают не лучшие времена. они уже понимают что смысла нет бороться. старая модель себя исчерпала а новая еще как следует не появилась.
[22:28:20] xa4a: то есть цена приблизилась к ценности
[22:28:36] webninja: к нулю она приблизилось )
[22:28:54] xa4a: значит такова ценность)
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[22:29:34] webninja: в пустыне никто не будет платить за песок.
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[22:31:19] webninja: мне еще не нравится как некоторые делают из попирания копирайта - геройский поступок. мол наебал проклятых капиталистов ) как робин гуд! качали бы тихо, все качают втихоря. но делать из воровства - идейный процесс (ни копейки буржуям!) и стиль жизни это пиздец как направильно.
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[22:36:07] webninja: в музыкальной индустрии я знаю что дает это массу негативных эффектов. есть и положительные, их тоже много. негативные это снижение качества контента и большая доля рекламной составляющей. своеобразная разновидность олигархии. блаблабла...

вообщем суть в том, что в 90% авторы музыки, даже порой известные не получают нихуя.
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