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[00:21:56] deepwalker: toxi-kb, а как ты ее вешаешь?
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[00:26:34] gigimon: чуваки, а кто вешал в джангоадминку wysiwyg редактор?
[00:26:44] gigimon: такой вопрос, а ка кбыть, если этот редактор вешается на див?
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[00:27:03] gigimon: и делает iframe, писать только свой скрипт? который при сохранении будет переносить все в форму?
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[00:28:29] webninja: выкинуть такой редактор
[00:28:49] webninja: я пробовал tiny-mce и ckeditor (и еще тот что джанго-цмс юзает)
[00:28:50] gigimon: к сожалению, единственный клевый для markdown
[00:29:00] webninja: ckeditor понравился больше всего
[00:29:07] gigimon: я хочу markdown
[00:29:38] toxi-kb: SHELL=/bin/bash
MAILTO=vadim
0-59 * * * * /home/vadim/workspace/rsspars/rsspars/run.py 2>/tmp/tmp.cron
вешаю так... в run.py: python /home/vadim/workspace/rsspars/rsspars/manage.py script
[00:29:56] webninja: тогда хм, даже не знаю попробуй может шаблон поменять админки? )
[00:31:29] gigimon: та проще на js тогда написать, чтобы убирал textarea, а при нажатии save восстанавливал)
[00:31:38] gigimon: ну лан, тогда буду юзать markitup
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[00:42:55] gigimon: markitup фигня, нету встроенного парсера markdown '(
[00:43:25] py_two: кто плотно работает в вим ?
[00:43:43] py_two: не могу заставить работать простейшие функции в vim+xterm
[00:44:11] py_two: сама функция: http://pastebin.com/LHXZrdBD
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[04:48:20] py_two: а я уже на пути к дьянго кодингу:))
[04:48:30] py_two: совсем близко
[04:49:01] py_two: все уже настроил почти. Вим только что починил даже под линуксом:)
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[04:55:23] webninja: а что там настраивать?
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[06:04:52] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[06:37:57] alexey-grom: посоветуйте пожалуйста где можно арендовать самый дешевый но надежный vps?
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[07:44:16] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[12:31:29] webninja: почему?
[12:32:54] slav0nic: не знаю как сейчас, но раньше там были опычные персоналки
[12:33:08] slav0nic: сомневаюсь что гарантийные, особенно на дешёвых тарифах)
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[13:01:53] alexey-grom: а что вы думаете о vds64?
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[13:11:06] slav0nic: alexey-grom, я сомневаюсь что на просторах снг есть нормальные дц и номральный саппорт
[13:11:22] slav0nic: *и дешёвые
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[13:13:49] alexey-grom: Вот щас только с их саппортом, девушкой, общался )
[13:14:08] alexey-grom: И дешевые. Интересно надежны ли просто
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[13:14:27] slav0nic: вот! а номральных админш девушек я почти не видел)
[13:14:38] webninja: ну хз ) он может аптайм имел в виду "надежность"
[13:14:45] webninja: это миф )
[13:15:59] slav0nic: я бы смотрел забугорные впски, единственное что на линоде напргяает, это цена трафа, хотя вписываемся
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[13:18:49] alexey-grom: Для моих целей дороговато. Мне, по большему счету, главное чтобы если у меня упадет все, мне три дня ждать не пришлось, пока починят )
[13:19:16] alexey-grom: Спасибо за советы, интересно узнать мнения знающих людей
[13:19:17] slav0nic: мне linode нравится
[13:19:26] slav0nic: leaseweb.com ещё можно гялнуть
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[13:19:44] огыешсук: hetzner наше всё
[13:19:51] slav0nic: сейчас питон су на тектонике был, но там вечные заёбы) за года 4 раз 8 лежали + ломали операционку
[13:20:09] slav0nic: hetzner дешёего быстро и ненадёжно)
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[13:22:58] slav0nic: ну вот) на линоде мне отвечает 3-10 минут
[13:23:39] slav0nic: +у ряда впсов раньше были неписаные лимиты
[13:23:50] slav0nic: например счётчики на открытые сокеты и тп хуиту)
[13:24:25] slav0nic: я за каком-то дешёвом за сутки израсходовал лимит)) и mldonkey якобы повесил их железку)
[13:24:31] slav0nic: пришлось перехать)
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[13:50:01] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[13:56:37] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[13:58:29] огыешсук: slav0nic: чего это там ненадёжно? Я с ними уже три сервера и пять лет. Пока нареканий на железо не было ни одного. Сеть вот их иногда падала, это да. И только.
[13:59:07] slav0nic: не знаю, многие жалуются что дсикы вылетают, оно и понятно
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[14:01:52] gigimon: бэкапы для кого? да и не просто так у них везде по 2 винта стоит
[14:02:18] gigimon: /me хостится в русском быдло хостере на esx vds
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[14:46:11] RaD: re all, камрады
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[14:46:28] RaD: подскажите, че за хрень - http://dpaste.com/720425/
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[14:55:55] mishok13: небось есть еще один модуль api
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[15:00:14] RaD: мысль хорошая
[15:00:21] RaD: не было, но проверю
[15:00:33] RaD: стоп, но тогда бы в консоли не работало
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[15:13:04] xa4a: RaD: в файле /home/zina/src/zina/api/handlers.py есть from api import v001
[15:13:13] xa4a: но import v001 не импортирует субмодули
[15:13:42] xa4a: то есть надо ещё отдельно import api.v001 import handlers
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[15:14:19] xa4a: всё-таки модули – не просто неймспейсы
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[15:36:19] aries.ua: Подскажите, как можно в админке сделать выбор такого плана. Страна -> Город?
[15:36:42] aries.ua: Что бы при выборе страны менялись города
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[15:43:32] RaD: не, в handlers ничего подобного нет
[15:44:21] RaD: но как же я тогда в джанге делаю:
from django.contrib import admin
class MyInline(admin.options.StackedInline): pass
???
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[15:45:24] RaD: кажется я понял, надо в api.v001.__init__ сделать импорт import .handlers
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[15:55:51] gigimon: aries.ua: непонятно, что ты хочешь
[15:56:12] RaD: хочет js поддержку для селектов
[15:56:20] RaD: обмусоленная тема в инете
[15:57:16] aries.ua: нашел smart_selects
[15:57:24] aries.ua: попробую его прикрутить
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[22:45:25] Martin: добрый вечер
[22:45:41] singularity: Привет
[22:45:45] Martin: увидел, что джанга 1.4 зарелизилась. что скажете о ней?
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[22:46:42] xa4a: она зарелизилась
[22:48:49] singularity: Martin: есди хочеш коментарии то на хабра дали линк
[22:49:00] singularity: http://blog.futurecolors.ru/2012/03/django-14-day-0.html
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[22:49:27] Martin: читаю сейчас. есть желание попробовать джангу...
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[22:53:39] Martin: хм. они мне подсказали свою идею. что обновить метод хэширования можно постепенно, при каждом новом входе пользователя.
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[22:56:23] webninja: данга один из лучших фрэймворков. такое желание должно естественно возникать )
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[22:56:26] webninja: я щаз про фласк читаю
[22:56:33] webninja: оч. интересно
[22:56:44] webninja: там канешно больше контроля
[22:56:55] Martin: пока мне по душе микрофрейморки. вроде фласка, вебпу, торнадо.
[22:57:22] Martin: на последнем сейчас начал писать. но юзаю его как веб сервер. до конца с запуском его под WSGI не разобрался :(
[22:58:15] singularity: Форум временно недоступен в связи с нашим переездом на новый сервер. Скорей всего, сайт и форум будут доступны к утру или поздно ночью. Напоминаем, что авторизация будет производиться по e-mail, а не usernam'y
[22:58:23] singularity: давно уже ?
[22:58:37] singularity: Круто :)
[22:59:00] singularity: А что с гугдлем будете делать ?
[22:59:48] Martin: вообще крупных фреймов, кроме джанги, не видел на питоне
[23:00:11] singularity: Старые посты будут на новых адресах. Или переадресация ?
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[23:01:01] xa4a: singularity: новый сервер не значит, что новые адреса
[23:01:09] webninja: нужно пилить что-то одно
[23:01:23] webninja: торнадо разве вебфрэймворк?
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[23:01:30] xa4a: webninja: да
[23:01:31] Martin: да. это веб сервер + фрейм.
[23:01:46] webninja: хммм
[23:01:54] xa4a: если пилить что-то одно, то – джангу. а знакомым не плохо быть со всем
[23:01:55] webninja: асинхронный вебфрэймворк?
[23:01:58] xa4a: ага
[23:01:59] Martin: может исполнятся под WSGI и хостить приложения WSGI
[23:02:07] webninja: во фласке пиздато класс бэйсед вьюс сделаны
[23:02:11] singularity: xa4a:новый форум значит новую структуру и новые адреса . Или нет?
[23:02:44] xa4a: где ты увидел новый форум?
[23:03:03] xa4a: (ну я хз, я не в теме. просто по тому, что там написано говорю)
[23:03:35] singularity: Вроде на новый двиг переходим
[23:03:49] Martin: DjangoBB?
[23:04:13] Martin: старый форум на каком-то пхп двиге был?
[23:04:22] singularity: Да пхп
[23:04:31] Martin: ExBB?
[23:04:40] singularity: PunBB
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[23:05:47] singularity: http://forum.python.su/
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[23:10:22] singularity: А что делают в таких случаях ? или гугель сам это поймет ?
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[23:21:22] webninja: реиндексируют
[23:21:29] webninja: или 302 редирект ставят со старых на новые
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[23:21:35] webninja: 302/301
[23:22:00] webninja: /me шарит в seo :-D
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[23:23:14] singularity: "реиндексируют" как это ?
[23:23:41] Martin: ставят на преждний урл мол перенесена перманентно
[23:23:51] Martin: поисковая система это видит и переходит
[23:24:12] Martin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_301
[23:25:22] singularity: webninja поставил это перед "или" . я подумал что это не одно и тоже
[23:26:08] Martin: конечно ночь не самое подходящее время для таких вопросов, но мне кажется, что только один способ
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[23:26:16] webninja: есть методика наеба гугла
[23:26:20] webninja: когда с ломанных сайтов
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[23:26:37] webninja: ставят 301 редирект
[23:26:52] webninja: по некоторым запросам помню была вся выдача забита этими редиректами
[23:27:18] Martin: ну крупные сайты быстро такое уберут. а мелкие вряд ли нужны.
[23:27:30] webninja: или брали дропы (экспайренные домены) и ставили с них 301 на продвигаемый
[23:27:38] webninja: не факт что быстро
[23:27:44] webninja: там массово делают
[23:28:16] Martin: если ломать крупные, посещаемые сайты, то максимум сутки имхо. за это время мало что случится для поисковиков.
[23:28:18] xa4a: гугл забанит -> кинет в блек-лист -> юзеры пожалуются -> вебмастер пойдет посмотрит в webmaster tools
[23:28:25] Martin: особенно яндекс. он неповоротлив.
[23:28:49] webninja: да все норм. было ) гугл жрал с удовольствием )
[23:29:17] webninja: гугл иногда ствит в топ за 15 минут если сайт очень трастовый
[23:29:35] webninja: я помню форум EA Games так лез, какой-то подраздел заброшенный
[23:29:38] webninja: делаешь пост
[23:29:42] webninja: через 15 минут он в топе
[23:30:16] webninja: короче это делали и сейчас делают. так что гуглу есть над чем работать.
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[23:31:10] py_two: webninja: та ну 15 минут имхо сказки
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[23:31:17] webninja: сам видел
[23:31:33] webninja: ну так а чо ты думаешь с новостных сайтов иногда так и залетают в топ новости
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[23:31:35] py_two: webninja: ну там кеширование в браузере не имело место ?
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[23:31:48] webninja: какое кэширование?
[23:32:09] py_two: всмысле когда пару раз заходишь на сайтег, то он по НЧ ВЧ СЧ выше в выдаче становится
[23:32:22] py_two: хотя в реальной выдаче он гараздо ниже
[23:32:51] webninja: не, я с других ипов смотрю обычно выдачу.
[23:35:24] webninja: гугл оч. быстрый
[23:35:34] webninja: в отличии от этой поделки - яндекса
[23:35:54] webninja: там ваще йобанный стыд. АПЫ! апдейтят выдачу раз в 3и дня чтоли.
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[23:36:27] Martin: на яндекс у меня зла не хватает). уже несколько месяцев прошло, а в индекс сайт только начал возвращатся.
[23:36:29] webninja: еще раньше в гугле была такая тема HOTTRENDS
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[23:36:44] webninja: там он сначала по 100 горячих запросов показывал и каждый час апал
[23:36:54] Martin: но гугль все же малопосещаемые сайты не каждый день индексирует тоже
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[23:36:57] webninja: вот и по ним был траф и было мало конкуренции ))
[23:37:14] webninja: если ссылок много бот постоянно ходит
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[23:39:31] webninja: но я щаз вебмастерс юзаю + ананлитикс. если сайт гуд и там низкие баунс рейт, юзер сидит хотябы больше 30 секунд на странице. то гугл палит это и соответственно считает что сайт хороший.
[23:40:21] webninja: ну и если +1 жмут. щаз походу уже оказывает это влияние на выдачу.
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