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[02:19:08] webninja: блин, как так?
[02:19:16] webninja: объясните что происходит
[02:31:33] xa4a: что не так?
[02:31:48] xa4a: х - это тебе не у
[02:31:51] webninja: все не так ) xa4a расскажи как это работает
[02:31:56] xa4a: хоть ты == хоть is
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[02:32:05] xa4a: is сравнивает ссылки
[02:32:09] xa4a: id(x) == id(y)
[02:32:11] webninja: if x is y: print "True"; почему не проходит?
[02:32:16] webninja: ааа
[02:32:20] xa4a: потому что это два разных объекта
[02:32:29] xa4a: два разных инстанса
[02:32:42] webninja: понял короче если бы было x = f(); y = x
[02:32:50] xa4a: да
[02:32:53] webninja: то is бы дало тру
[02:33:32] webninja: а как сравнить что это инстансы одного обхекта?
[02:34:08] xa4a: одного класса?
[02:34:18] xa4a: type(a) is type(b)
[02:34:20] xa4a: но только э..
[02:34:28] xa4a: ты не хочешь сравнивать классы
[02:34:32] xa4a: инфа 100%
[02:34:46] xa4a: т.к. это ломает принципы ООП
[02:37:18] webninja: хм
[02:37:51] webninja: ну я это чисто теоретически.
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[04:00:56] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[13:24:36] slav0nic: есть идеи как дёрнать hg hook из приложения проставленного в другом вирт. окружении?
причём в хуке идёт python:blabla
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[14:20:48] Typhon: там гогно
[14:20:53] Typhon: пацаны не в теме
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[14:21:06] Typhon: а в комментах всего пара картинок, скука
[14:21:36] mishok13: """либо самому ставить более удобную m2crypto — которая не то чтобы особо легко ставится, особенно под windows"""
[14:21:49] mishok13: проблемы индейцев шерифа не волнуют
[14:22:03] mishok13: Поддержка создания внутренних DSL: блоки, instance_eval, вызов функции без скобок.
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[14:22:14] mishok13: пацаны я смотрю не очень понимают что такое DSL
[14:23:01] mishok13: j[
[14:23:07] mishok13: ох и уровень статьи
[14:23:40] webninja: дв
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[14:24:05] webninja: референсы на винду в каждом 2ом пункте ваще не в тему
[14:24:29] Typhon: "Индексирование за пределами коллекции возвращает nil, что позволяет в ряде случаев писать очень лаконичный код."
[14:24:38] webninja: да
[14:24:46] webninja: на хабре вообще забавно
[14:24:49] webninja: как почитаешь
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[14:25:00] webninja: так каждый программист на пятоне или на рубе
[14:25:07] webninja: а по факту там одни пхпшники.
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[14:25:29] webninja: который холиворят что лучше пятон или руби :-D
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[14:26:43] slav0nic: короче чем меньше строк в коде - тем круче язык!
[14:26:51] webninja: кстати а чо рельсы те же намного лучше жанги?
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[14:27:10] slav0nic: там из коробки много чего есть
[14:27:54] webninja: а в джанго? тоже все из коробки, ну кроме миграций, да и то потому что сауз тим не хотели привязываться к релиз графику жанги.
[14:29:28] webninja: "Если бы я знал питон, то учить еще и руби я бы не стал. Незачем." (с) - да )
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[14:32:46] slav0nic: webninja, ну в целом рельсы таки жирнее, сам я рельсы не пилил, но в них есть поддержки rest из коробки и тп приятные мелочи
[14:33:11] slav0nic: но руби -фе
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[14:38:56] slav0nic: +в рельсах есть плагины, в джанге плагибельные аппы - каждый др.. как хочет, многое через жопу, и что-то судя последним релизам, это мало кого волнует =\ минорщина какая-то)
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[15:04:27] nosensus: приветствую всех :)
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[17:21:42] nosensus: подключил модуль netaddr нужно сгенерировать диапазон айпи адресов скрипт таков http://dumpz.org/188969/ почему то ругается
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[17:23:47] evch26: попробуй преобразовать в строку при записи в файл
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[17:26:13] nosensus: evch26: использовать str?
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[17:27:10] evch26: да, можно еще попробовать так: inp.write("%s" % line)
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[17:28:14] nosensus: evch26: балин точно забыл совсем, спасибо
[17:30:00] nosensus: evch26: только он в строчку зараза пишет попытался поставить inp.write("%s/n" % line) так он просто добавляет /n
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[17:30:33] xa4a: а ты что хотел?
[17:30:40] xa4a: ты хотел написать \n ?
[17:30:44] evch26: а str не работает?
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[17:46:29] nosensus: xa4a: да да я понял что слеш не в ту сторону наклонил)) ошибка новичка. Спасибо
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