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[10:12:04] aries.ua: Народ, только не смейтесь, а как в модели указать NOT?
MyModel.objects.filter(field<>value)
Ругается на такую запись. Думал, что там как в bash field__ne - но тоже ругается :(
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[10:22:14] aries.ua: Блин, надо было местами аргументы поставить :(
Первой строкой должно было быть ~Q
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[10:46:10] metall1c: что-то не пойму, что за фигня, создал проект на джанге, запускаю дев. сервер и ошибка:
[10:46:21] metall1c: django.core.exceptions.ImproperlyConfigured: Error importing template source loader django.templates.loaders.filesystem.Loader: "No module named templates.loaders.filesystem"
[10:46:39] metall1c: хотя старый проект запускается %)
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[10:48:12] metall1c: все, понял
[10:48:19] ds.tihonov: metall1c: ?
[10:48:27] metall1c: должно быть django.template.loaders.filesystem.Loader
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[10:48:51] metall1c: template без s на конце
[10:49:04] metall1c: странно, почему сгенерился конфиг с s ? бага ?
[10:50:11] metall1c: хм, новый создал, там все ок, удивительно, откуда у меня s взялись
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[10:52:31] ds.tihonov: очепятка?
[10:52:50] metall1c: так я же генерил проект командой startproject
[10:53:16] metall1c: и, вроде, потом в этом месте ничего не трогал, хотя может забыл :)
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[11:49:54] Sofcom: всем привет! кто сталкивался с необходимостью перекодировать тучу файлов из win1251 в utf8? Может у кого скрипт готовый есть?
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[11:53:25] levsha: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0I % sh -c 'mv % %.back && iconv -f cp1251 -t utf8 < %.back > % '
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[11:55:20] Sofcom: блин этот иконв, он точно перекодирует, а то я с ним уже пробовал по разному, кодировку меняет но все содержимое файлов в кракозябрах
[11:55:27] slav0nic: Sofcom, iconv
[11:55:45] slav0nic: значит что-то ты делаешь не так
[11:56:08] Сволота: recode есчё есть
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[12:05:41] Sofcom: levsha: вот твое перкодировало по человечески, никаких кракозябер :) спасибо большущее
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[12:07:02] slav0nic: я как бы 100мб дамп питон су неделю назад конвертил в ютф) и без крякозябр всяких
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[12:51:49] wiz: пасаны, а что круче - питон или хаскель? не пойму никак...
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[12:52:52] xa4a: что за вопрос
[12:52:56] xa4a: хаскель, очевидно
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[12:58:05] mishok13: окамель
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[12:59:24] xa4a: кстати, ещё не поздно начать писать на DART, до того, как он стал популярным
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[13:00:56] mishok13: уже пора писать на скале, теперь когда они в очередной раз сломают обратную совместимость
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[13:01:41] mishok13: потом можно будет писать "I used Scala when it had XML literals and macros. Kids these days…"
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[13:27:52] webninja: мне вот что непонятно
[13:27:58] webninja: http://i19.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0409/b9/7300889eb3bb5206492bec973f1a4fb9.jpg
[13:28:04] webninja: почему на книжке по пятону изображена крыса?
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[13:31:06] mishok13: потому что книга с питоном на обложке уже есть
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[13:32:04] mishok13: называется Programming Python, автор тот же самый Лутц
[13:32:12] slav0nic: это корм для питона
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[13:36:23] xa4a: вот, у ореилли четкая облжка: http://akamaicovers.oreilly.com/images/0636920020738/lrg.jpg
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[13:45:52] wiz: а чем окамль хорош?
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[13:50:02] Сволота: там есть присваивание и он компилиццо
[13:50:53] wiz: таки и хацкель же компилиццо
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[14:28:25] огыешсук: mysqldump же
[14:28:51] ds.tihonov: или же проде subrpocess-ом вызов делать mysqldump-а ?
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[15:38:26] mrDoctorWho.: какой и где
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[15:41:22] cutwater: ds.tihonov: прочитать инструкцию. использовать по назначению
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[15:41:41] cutwater: slav0nic: скажи мне почему на форуме так много идиотов (риторический вопрос)
[15:41:57] slav0nic: сезон такой
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[15:46:27] Сволота: сессия чтоли?
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[15:48:13] webninja: каникулы
[15:48:18] webninja: весенние
[15:49:22] slav0nic: cutwater, а кто тебя так повеселил?
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[15:49:51] slav0nic: а, вижу)
[15:49:54] cutwater: slav0nic: я по совокупности
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[15:55:39] slav0nic: cutwater, ну судя по всему стала молодёжь подтягиваться) поколение вконтакте
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[15:57:59] slav0nic: лучше посоветуйте клавиатуру)
[15:58:16] cutwater: Microsoft Ergonomic 4000
[15:58:44] cutwater: *Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000
[15:59:13] xa4a: говорят, http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/contoured.htm elj,yj
[15:59:16] xa4a: удобно*
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[16:00:24] slav0nic: какраз сейчас смотрю) у друга аткая, но что-то хз
[16:00:29] slav0nic: 10 лет классику юзал)
[16:00:35] mrDoctorWho.: Кстати, почему при вводе пароля на сайте он не скрывается?
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[16:00:48] slav0nic: mrDoctorWho., чтоб все знали
[16:01:01] cutwater: o_O
[16:01:02] slav0nic: алафин зафиксит когда выползет с больницы
[16:01:20] slav0nic: там с плейсхолдерами в формах вообще жопа была)
[16:01:31] cutwater: это где это он не скрывается
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[16:02:15] slav0nic: да он ночью когда я мигрировал всё, взял да слёг в больницу)
[16:02:17] slav0nic: хитрец
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[16:02:48] xa4a: slav0nic: Востановление пароля <http://python.su/account/password/reset/>

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[16:03:39] slav0nic: xa4a, хочешь сказать ен пашет?
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[16:03:52] slav0nic: или смущает дефолт
[16:04:14] mrDoctorWho.: опять кривое отображение текста...
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[16:04:29] xa4a: смущает востановление
[16:04:34] xa4a: вместо восстановления
[16:04:50] slav0nic: а))
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[16:05:41] slav0nic: скажем так, на сайте пока нкито не писал велкам В) на выходных мелочи просмотрим
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[16:06:06] xa4a: нет велкама - нечего выставлять наружу, ага
[16:06:11] xa4a: так что теперь терпи, изем ошибок)
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[16:07:21] xa4a: http://python.su/snippets/2/ :(
[16:07:33] xa4a: а до 500 показало один раз 502
[16:07:35] mrDoctorWho.: Bad Gateway
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[16:08:35] slav0nic: xa4a, ты наверно старый сайт не видел)
[16:08:40] slav0nic: RuntimeError: std::bad_alloc
ы это уже интересно)
[16:08:49] xa4a: http://python.su/favorites/
[16:08:53] slav0nic: xapian всё больше радует
[16:08:58] slav0nic: xa4a, это знаю
[16:09:57] xa4a: форум тоже иногда 502 выдаёт
[16:10:07] slav0nic: сейчас я рестартил
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[16:11:15] slav0nic: xapian заипал) то были бока с term > 245 типа ссылки пихало в индекс и обламвалось, write lock при посте и переиндексацие, все курят бабмук при постах, теперь опять какая-то херь вылезла
[16:11:18] slav0nic: печалька
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[16:12:50] xa4a: Содать сообщение <http://python.su/pm/compose/>
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[16:14:54] mrDoctorWho.: на моём разрешении слово "выйти" еле видно http://plasmon.rghost.ru/37292991.image
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[16:15:48] xa4a: под личным сообщением кнопки вперед-назад ничего не делают
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[16:16:23] xa4a: в вакансиях линк на автора не работает
[16:16:24] slav0nic: mrDoctorWho., какой барузер?
[16:16:29] mrDoctorWho.: slav0nic: firefox
[16:16:47] slav0nic: странно, а разрешение?
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[16:16:55] mrDoctorWho.: 1024x600
[16:16:59] mrDoctorWho.: нетбук
[16:17:18] xa4a: поиск по python ничего не выдаёт
[16:17:37] slav0nic: xa4a, по форуму только, я ещё не смотрел на сайте)
[16:17:58] slav0nic: ну и xapian заманало, хотя там скорей haystack 1 не торт
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[16:20:30] mrDoctorWho.: http://python.su/add/ при нажатии кнопки "добавить" над текстом, появляется вот такая вот вещь http://plasmon.rghost.ru/37293105.image и с ней ничего нельзя сделать, только закрыть и переместить, к тому же, она появляется за пределами видимой области экрана и появляется горизонтальный скролл
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[16:23:19] mrDoctorWho.: * при нажатии кнопки "browse"
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[16:25:24] slav0nic: это тоже знаем)
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[16:26:53] mrDoctorWho.: а после выхода не видно надпись "зарегестрироваться"
[16:27:00] mrDoctorWho.: и*
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[16:28:36] slav0nic: ок, глянем, но на выходных
[16:29:17] mrDoctorWho.: сниппеты нельзя посмотреть...
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[16:31:23] mrDoctorWho.: при наведении курсора к кнопке "компании" что-то активируется на заднем фоне кнопки
[16:31:30] mrDoctorWho.: т.е. Под кнопкой
[16:31:49] mrDoctorWho.: ссылается на вики
[16:31:59] mrDoctorWho.: походу там ещё одна кнопка
[16:32:18] mrDoctorWho.: и под кнопкой "блоги" тоже
[16:32:21] mrDoctorWho.: там форум
[16:32:38] slav0nic: ну не думали мы о ширине экрана 600 ) по снипетам над осмотреть ксапиан, какого хера он бочинит, + сниппеты ваще сторонняя аппа
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[16:35:25] slav0nic: что-то мне подсказывает что там переиндексация из вьюхи дёргается, надо глянуть
[16:35:37] mrDoctorWho.: 502...
[16:35:51] opka: всем привет! Прошу подсказку. Я зашел на сайт, где надо вводить капчу. Я могу нажать правой кнопкой на капче и выбрать "скопироваь УРЛ рисунка", но мне надо этот урл получить на питоне.
Урл генерится так (из сурсов странички):
<script>
function refresh_code ($session_name, $session_id) {
$src='/capcha.php?'+ $session_name + '='+ $session_id + '&random='+Math.round((Math.random()* 1000000));
document.getElementById('capcha1').src=$src;
}
</script>

и имеет примерно такой вид: http://www.ru/capcha.php?PHPSESSID=8f9c6f27eae1d6f6974e0b42e50171c5&random=470215
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[16:36:17] mrDoctorWho.: парси сайт да и всё
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[16:37:21] opka: mrDoctorWho.: а что именно парсить? модете немного подробнее?
[16:37:45] webninja: генерируй урл как жаваскрипт
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[16:38:29] webninja: откудатолько сессион_нэйм и сессион_ид хз
[16:38:33] mrDoctorWho.: opka: определи в каких тегах находится капча, напиши регулярку и вперёд парсить страничку с капчей
[16:38:49] webninja: для таких задач еще можно селениум юзать
[16:38:59] opka: капчу генерит яваскрипт
[16:39:13] webninja: ну так а в чем проблема повторить код?
[16:39:36] webninja: сессион нэйм видимо где-то в куках есть
[16:39:49] webninja: $src='/capcha.php?'+ $session_name + '='+ $session_id + '&random='+Math.round((Math.random()* 1000000)); вот это повтори
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[16:40:37] opka: я прост опока не пойм что мне делать :) Я могу загрузить хтмл от странички
[16:40:48] opka: пока не пойму что знаит "повторить код"
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[16:41:17] webninja: ну блин. =( сделай то что делает жаваскрипт на пятоне
[16:41:48] webninja: xa4a есть ли смысл учить Darth?
[16:41:55] opka: а результат не будет разным?:)
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[16:43:25] webninja: будет разным из-за random
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[16:45:22] opka: мне интересно это как-то повлияет ли на результат
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[16:48:31] opka: вообще не пойму накой нуден этот рандом
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[16:50:31] xa4a: webninja: пока хз.
[16:50:49] xa4a: очевидно, что если в дажваскрипте рандом, то можно рандом и на питоне использовать
[16:51:01] xa4a: или не использовать вообще т.к. он там для обхода кеширования
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[16:52:17] opka: тогда вообще легко ж)
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[16:57:44] webninja: блин дарт норм.
[16:57:46] webninja: ваще
[16:57:54] webninja: но и поганый js на месте на стоит
[16:58:04] webninja: придумали всякие виртуальные машины
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[16:58:12] webninja: коффе скрипты
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[17:01:01] Tony: js как язык убог
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[17:01:22] webninja: ну я тоже так думаю, но мне кажется зря.
[17:01:36] Tony: после питона на js писать это совсем кошмарно
[17:01:47] Tony: декораторов нет, наследование убогое
[17:01:57] webninja: а там можно как нибудт из коносли его запускать или только файрбаг и браузер?
[17:02:03] Tony: функциональных фишек минимум
[17:02:08] Tony: есть js даже серверный
[17:02:12] Tony: node.js посмотри
[17:02:15] webninja: ну это типа вижуалбэйсик )
[17:02:17] webninja: это я знаю
[17:02:21] Tony: только хрен знает кому это в голову взбредет использовать
[17:02:37] nott: slav0nic, по поводу клавиатуры рекомендую http://shop.lenovo.com/us/itemdetails/55Y9003/38/C39222A11DEF47F490A58490A545DAC0 (особенно если мышь не любишь)
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[17:07:11] opka: а вот еще вопрос. У меня капча по адресу: www.ru/capcha.php?PHPSESSID=d14fda92e0fb42ffcfb6c4b184e00f9f
[17:07:44] opka: если ее рефрешить ,то картинка меняется. Вопрос: в качестве правильной капчи пойдут все варианты генерируемых картинок или только текущая?
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[17:08:14] opka: !G GGG
[17:08:26] opka: !help
[17:08:48] levsha: канал "всё обо всём"
[17:09:01] opka: !google python+antigate
[17:09:24] webninja: !g lorien grab antigate
[17:09:39] webninja: !g lorien tools antigate
[17:09:48] webninja: !g lorien tools
[17:10:00] webninja: бля короче тут есть модуль для каптчи
[17:10:07] webninja: антигейт как раз
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[17:10:30] webninja: хотя тебе лучше будет самому разобраться как что работает
[17:11:11] opka: да там просто всё, отсылешь им картинку и получаешь ответ
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[17:12:47] xa4a: у меня тоже где-то был модуль для обработки капчи
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[17:13:47] opka: ха4а, а вы капчу сохраняли на диск и потом .read и отсылали?
[17:13:59] xa4a: да..
[17:14:02] xa4a: http://www.undefined.org.ua/2008/01/blog-post.html
[17:14:34] xa4a: там, собственно, пример использования - в def do_stuff(file='aa.gif'):
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[17:15:15] xa4a: то есть скачивать - не обязательно даже
[17:15:21] opka: я просто думал, может как-то минуя все эти сохранялки можно :) напрямую как-то урл отдавать %)
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[17:15:30] xa4a: можно
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[17:15:36] xa4a: возможно
[17:15:52] xa4a: да, почему бы и нет
[17:16:07] xa4a: только тебе надо его чем-то показывать. типа QWebKit
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[17:16:20] xa4a: нуили чем ты там капчу обрабатываешь
[17:16:43] xa4a: стоп, о чём это я.. фу-фу-фу. капчу плохо массово заполнять. но-но-но
[17:17:14] mrDoctorWho.: :-D
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[17:18:29] opka: ж)
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[17:18:44] slav0nic: вспоминаю про мои 700к нареганых асек В)
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[17:22:00] mrDoctorWho.: [19:32:35] <slav0nic> ну не думали мы о ширине экрана 600 ) по снипетам над осмотреть ксапиан, какого хера он бочинит, + сниппеты ваще сторонняя аппа
ширина 1024
[17:22:20] mrDoctorWho.: экран широкий же, а не высокий
[17:22:40] slav0nic: то я мазнул)
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[17:23:51] metall1c: мне надо в модель загружать данные из файла в формате cvs, как это лучше реализовать? отдельный скрипт и страничка, где загружается и обробатывается файл или в админке можно как-то прикрутить к модели такой механизм?
[17:24:11] metall1c: *csv*
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[17:27:46] metall1c: никто не знает? :(
[17:28:14] slav0nic: да как нравится так и реализуй
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[17:28:45] metall1c: в админку это как-то можно воткнуть?
[17:29:14] gigimon: можно
[17:29:19] gigimon: в админку можно все че угодно прикрутить
[17:29:24] gigimon: это ж обычная аппа :)
[17:29:28] gigimon: ну почти)
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[17:29:47] slav0nic: напиши свою вьюху и форму и запихай в админку
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[17:30:17] metall1c: в какую сторону глядеть? у меня суть задачи в том, что есть список товаров, его надо переодически обновлять через csv, хотелось бы это в админке делать, как лучше?
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[17:30:31] slav0nic: custom admin view и всё такое
[17:30:44] slav0nic: а, ну сделай комманду
[17:30:48] slav0nic: и по крону подтягивай
[17:31:04] metall1c: нее, админ сайта сам будет отдавать файл когда надо
[17:31:10] metall1c: про custom admin view щас погляжу
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[17:31:27] slav0nic: ну добавь вьюшку с формой и пусть заливает %)
[17:31:58] slav0nic: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-csv-importer/0.1.3.5
вон даже поделие есть
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[17:32:47] metall1c: да распарсить я и сам могу, у меня там одна табличка всего, обычным csv.reader читается без проблем
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[17:33:22] metall1c: щас первую загрузку данных сделаю, дальше еще надо будет придумать как мержить существующие данные со следующими файлами
[17:33:25] metall1c: сам алгоритм
[17:33:34] metall1c: у меня там около 5000 наименований
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[20:49:48] gigimon: metall1c: я делал подобное, у меня 3к товаров по простейшему алгоритму, ищем в базе по коду товара, если есть - обновляем, нету - создаем
[20:49:59] gigimon: парсится из экселся, за 5 секунд справляется :)
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[21:04:18] aries.ua: эх... простецкие алгоритмы...
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[21:04:54] aries.ua: А мне приходится парсить сайт поставщика, и ко всему еще и использовать разные алгоритмы для склеивания картинок :D
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