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[13:22:38] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[17:31:17] melistraza808: добрый день, мне к коментариям моего сайта написали:
"классы контроллеров должны быть new-style классами"
кто может обьяснить как это?
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[17:33:06] cutwater: melistraza808: а вот скажи ка ты книжки читал?
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[17:33:36] melistraza808: cutwater: ну не подряд, а интересующие меня главы, и общие понятия
[17:33:41] cutwater: а вот зря
[17:33:56] melistraza808: ну у меня не было времени прочитать целую книгу
[17:34:01] melistraza808: сроки не велики
[17:34:08] melistraza808: и времени не так много свободного
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[17:34:19] cutwater: и в гугле тебя забанили
[17:34:28] melistraza808: там я чё-то понять не могу
[17:34:40] melistraza808: в доках нашел
[17:34:42] cutwater: что не можешь понять?
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[17:35:45] cutwater: что конкретно
[17:36:10] melistraza808: ну все стоятьи на инглише, может я конечно не могу правильно перевести, но особо ничего не понятно
[17:36:23] melistraza808: нашел 1 упонимание в доках
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[17:36:31] melistraza808: что введены в 2,2 версии
[17:36:39] melistraza808: и немного теории
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[17:37:33] melistraza808: там всего 1 абзац
[17:37:38] cutwater: короче чтобы не мучать тебя, тебе достаточно наследовать классы от object
[17:37:39] webninja: ты не знаешь инглиша?
[17:37:44] cutwater: webninja: судя по всему да
[17:38:08] cutwater: melistraza808: ну тут поболе будет чем абзацу
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[17:44:14] cutwater: melistraza808: куды пропал. мы пообщаться хотим. наставить тебя на путь истинный.
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[17:44:25] melistraza808: я уже статью на хабре нашел
[17:44:32] melistraza808: поподробней доков
[17:44:40] melistraza808: *пробел
[17:44:42] cutwater: ленивое животное.
[17:44:57] melistraza808: почему ?
[17:45:03] melistraza808: там на много понятнее и с примерами
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[17:45:14] melistraza808: я только учу язык для меня намного понятнее так
[17:45:31] melistraza808: если бы у меня был опыт тогда возможно, а так я даже ещё технарь не закончил!
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[17:45:58] cutwater: пичаль
[17:46:22] melistraza808: cutwater: что именно тебя так разачаровало ?
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[17:48:00] cutwater: То что ты из официальной доки не понял. В прочем мне порой кажется что это уже нормально
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[17:49:06] melistraza808: ну для тех кто вообще не вкурсе так сказать! там написано скудно без примеров
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[17:51:40] cutwater: melistraza808: как раз таки печально то что нужно разжевывать простые вещи которые есть даже в книжках на русском
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[17:52:02] cutwater: и то что это становится достоянием статей, хотя некоторые из них таки полезны но не должны являться первоначальным источником информации
[17:52:05] melistraza808: у меня 3 книжки сейчас в 2 их них точно нету даже упоминания
[17:52:06] melistraza808: я
[17:52:12] melistraza808: в 3 ещё не смотрел
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[18:43:52] webninja: короче задача такая
[18:43:53] webninja: у меня есть сайт
[18:44:02] webninja: кстати вот http://tamp3cords.com
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[18:44:12] webninja: там разные разделы
[18:44:34] webninja: я для каждого раздела могу генерировать рсс фид, стандартными жанговскими средствами
[18:44:43] webninja: но мне нужно как-то общий сделать
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[18:45:03] webninja: чтобы его показывать на морде. чтобы любое движение в каком-то разделе попадало в общуюю ленту.
[18:45:06] webninja: как это сделать?
[18:45:10] webninja: чем
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[19:23:39] Septem: винда такая винда
[19:24:01] Septem: что делать если нужно разбить строку по символу \ ?
[19:25:54] Septem: нужно получить из полного пути к фаилу только его имя, думал по символьно разбить строку с полным путям и взять последний, но как разбить строку если она отделена \ ?
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[19:29:43] Typhon: os.path.basename
[19:29:46] Septem: вообщем конкректно для этой ситуация я решил
[19:29:49] Septem: да именно так
[19:30:08] Septem: просто интиресно а как быть с \ если вдруг необходимо его в строке использовать?
[19:30:17] Typhon: это единственно верное решение для задачи "получить из полного пути к файлу только его имя"
[19:30:46] Typhon: >>> "xxxx\\yyyy".split("\\")
['xxxx', 'yyyy']
[19:30:58] Typhon: !wtf tutorial
[19:31:06] Typhon: Septem: ^ вам туда
[19:31:49] webninja: как с РСС быть никто не подскажет?
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[19:32:01] webninja: может есть уже решения для мерджа
[19:32:03] webninja: фидов
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[19:33:28] Typhon: webninja: гуглил? ( http://eubolist.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/python-script-merge-and-sort-multiple-rss-feed-items-in-one-feed/ )
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[20:25:13] xa4a: кто-то тут продвигал свой сервис по смерживанию рсс
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[20:36:23] Septem: есть ли не костыльный и кросс платформеный способ записать данные в буфер обмена?
[20:37:20] Сволота: у каждой платформы свой бубер
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[20:37:54] Сволота: *буфер
[20:37:59] Septem: кросс-платформенного решения нет?
[20:38:49] Сволота: можно детектить платформу и для каждой делать отдельную реализацию
[20:39:18] Septem: эх
[20:39:39] Сволота: в Qt вроде должно быть нечто подобное
[20:40:15] Septem: мда
[20:40:20] Сволота: но я буфером практически не пользуюсь, так что не уверен
[20:40:31] Septem: 90% скрипта будет не само действие а работа с буфером
[20:40:53] Сволота: знаю только что в венде и линупсе они совершенно разные
[20:40:55] Septem: мне банально надо сылку в буфер скопировать
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[20:45:24] Septem: самое интиресное
[20:45:32] Septem: что под tk есть вроде как модуль
[20:45:35] Septem: но он не работает
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[20:45:45] Septem: хотя ошибками не ругается
[20:46:12] Сволота: лучше возьми за основу Qt
[20:46:29] Сволота: если оно это умеет
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[20:46:43] Septem: qt в стандартной поставке есть?
[20:47:03] Сволота: надо отдельно ставить и Qt и PyQt
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[20:47:52] Septem: в этом и проблема
[20:48:01] Septem: нифга не могу понять
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[20:49:02] Septem: Сволота: http://pastebin.com/44nTr6Gy фаил копируется но вот в буфере ссылки как небыло так и нет
[20:49:15] Septem: хотя если модуль вставки запустить отдельно то всё хорошо
[20:49:19] Сволота: на сколько я знаю, в венде один буфер обмена, а в линупсах их куча разных разновидностей
[20:49:35] Septem: это вариант под винду
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[20:50:25] Septem: запускаю как команду в контекстовом меню python имя скрипта "1%'
[20:50:34] Septem: "1%"
[20:50:45] Septem: "%1"
[20:50:46] Septem: или так
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[20:53:48] Septem: суть в том что просто "test" выводится исправно
[20:53:53] Septem: а вот ссылка нет
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[20:55:03] Сволота: /me уже забыл winapi, но некоторые моменты таки помнит
[20:55:21] noobik: кто подскажет как удалить тэг и его содержимое с beautifulsoup?
[20:55:59] Septem: что за хрень
[20:56:14] Сволота: если в линупсе задействовать буфер обмена и закрыть прогу источник, то данные никуда не вставляются
[20:56:41] Septem: винда же
[20:56:48] Septem: или возможно тоже самое?
[20:56:49] Septem: оу
[20:56:55] Сволота: а в случае ActiveX получается подругому
[20:57:00] Septem: ?
[20:57:27] Septem: странно
[20:57:37] Septem: попробовал загрузить чисто модуль загрузки в буфер
[20:57:45] Septem: и скормить ему url всё в норме
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[20:58:20] Сволота: url лучше обозначать как текст
[20:58:28] Septem: так и есть
[20:58:39] Septem: >>> filename = 'test'
>>> dropbox_uid = "19243931"
>>> dropbox = "C:\Dropbox\Public"
>>> url = str("http://dl.dropbox.com/u/"+dropbox_uid+"/"+ filename)
>>> url
'http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19243931/test'
>>> Paste(url)
[20:59:07] Septem: учитывая загруженный в память модуль вставки в буфер до этого
[21:01:41] Septem: Сволота: в чём косяк ?
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[21:02:56] Septem: да да да!
[21:02:59] Septem: буфер шикарен!
[21:03:08] Septem: пока программа работает оно в нём
[21:03:13] Septem: стоит выйти и уже всё
[21:03:17] Septem: охренительно
[21:03:44] xa4a: у тебя энтер залипает?
[21:04:18] xa4a: может тебе надо что-то передавать в ocb() ?
[21:05:00] Septem: хм
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[21:05:52] Septem: не моий код просто
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[21:06:52] xa4a: ты его показал, как-будто твой
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[21:07:26] xa4a: ну это не важно
[21:07:30] xa4a: взялся - разберайся
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[21:08:12] Septem: дело походу не в коде
[21:08:25] Septem: так как у меня прописанно спать некое время
[21:08:28] Septem: но скрипт не спит
[21:08:33] Septem: хотя копирует исправно
[21:09:07] Septem: хотя да фитча со сромо жизни ссылки есть
[21:09:12] Septem: буфера*
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[22:30:35] cutwater: Господа, а кто-нибудь из Киева будет лететь на Euro Python ?
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