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[00:24:49] webninja: 66к загрузок граба?
[00:25:24] slav0nic: хм) у скрапи меньше
[00:25:29] webninja: можно рисовать тогда презентацию в ПДФ и просить 100 лямов у инвесторов.
[00:26:04] webninja: скрапи несколько адский фрэймворк если честно.
[00:26:22] slav0nic: меня в своё время устроил)
[00:26:45] slav0nic: надо будет статейку наваять
[00:26:47] webninja: а что ты им делал?
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[00:27:17] slav0nic: да новостники грабил парсил и ложил в джанговские модели
[00:27:21] slav0nic: классика)
[00:27:40] webninja: а
[00:27:56] webninja: ну вот спарсить им много данных и быстро будет проблематично.
[00:28:33] slav0nic: не уверен
[00:29:24] slav0nic: webninja, ты это дело проверял?)
[00:29:28] webninja: да
[00:29:34] webninja: я раньше на скрапи сидел
[00:29:39] webninja: а лориен граб начал писать
[00:29:41] slav0nic: и на сколько разница?
[00:29:57] slav0nic: там как бы дозера настроек, число запросов конкурирующих тоже есть
[00:30:12] webninja: а прокси подключить пробовал?
[00:30:19] slav0nic: ну это да
[00:30:23] slav0nic: это косяк твистеда
[00:30:27] slav0nic: но вроде уже всё должно быть
[00:30:37] slav0nic: в твистеде getPage не мог проксю) кал
[00:31:03] webninja: там нет кэша
[00:31:09] webninja: это killer feature
[00:31:13] webninja: в грабе
[00:31:52] slav0nic: HttpCacheMiddleware ага, нет :P
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[00:32:49] webninja: щаз гляну
[00:33:04] webninja: из коробки граб быстрее работает в разы
[00:33:16] webninja: разворачивать scrapy дольше
[00:33:25] slav0nic: это да
[00:33:41] slav0nic: но у скрапи архитектура была интересная, правда с ходу не каждый въедет)
[00:34:08] webninja: да хз даже ) обычная архитектура асинхронного парсера
[00:34:15] slav0nic: помню начал его нутро ковырять, дня 3 убил на какую-то херь
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[00:34:41] slav0nic: ну скажем так, видна любовь к джанге)
[00:34:49] webninja: там еще какой-то ад был с передачей кук
[00:34:56] webninja: я уже точно не помню, давно юзал
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[00:35:04] webninja: еще до НГ последний раз
[00:36:13] webninja: граб более логичен в этом плане, то что сразу понятно что он или заново объект grab создает для реквеста, или ты передаешь тот который уже есть (или клон), поставив там все как тебе надо.
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[00:37:11] slav0nic: ну более простой и понятный эт да
[00:40:19] webninja: хм да хттпкэш есть
[00:40:24] webninja: 2а стораджа
[00:40:29] webninja: файлсистем и еще чото
[00:40:29] slav0nic: /me открыл chiptune музыку В)
[00:40:40] slav0nic: ну да, файлы и anydb
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[00:44:59] webninja: там еще пайплайны есть
[00:45:06] webninja: я лориена уговаривал в начале тоже сделать
[00:45:23] webninja: но он говорил что смысла нет, мол вызывай просто функцию save да и все.
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[00:45:43] webninja: я потом понял, что действительно смысла то и нет.
[00:46:46] webninja: вообще было бы круто этот пайплайн вынести в отдельную очередь. типа последний обработчик сохраняет страницу или там какие-то данные и пуляет таск в очередь, откуда он подцепляется уже в другом процессе и пошла возня.
[00:46:53] webninja: в скрапи вроде не было такого.
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[00:49:18] slav0nic: ну кидать через пайплайн в очередь не сложно
[00:49:44] webninja: ну да, я вот щаз целери осваиваю тихим сапом
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[00:52:01] webninja: там как раз про эти очереди )
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[00:53:18] slav0nic: webninja, кстати на какой-то конфе была тема про краулеры, индус хрень расскащывал
[00:53:34] webninja: какую?
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[00:54:12] alexey-grom: про requests и mechanize
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[00:55:09] webninja: а
[00:55:13] webninja: ну это ваще ад )
[00:55:18] webninja: я помню года 2а назад
[00:55:21] webninja: изучал пятон
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[00:55:33] webninja: с целью написания спамилок
[00:55:38] webninja: для СЭО
[00:55:48] slav0nic: alexey-grom, нее, вроде на конфе ореилли или fosdem
[00:56:08] webninja: и искал либу чтобы можно было удобно орудовать сетевыми запросами, ну т.к. голый курл это слишком жостко.
[00:56:32] slav0nic: webninja, да я раньше им обходился, лень было огламурить) надеялся что первый и последний раз
[00:56:33] webninja: и единственное более менее адекватное решение был как раз grab ) тогда он в зачаточном состоянии лежал.
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[01:00:36] alexey-grom: 2,5 или 3 часа доклад шёл и была только давно устаревшая хрень
[01:01:00] alexey-grom: я еще подумал интересно посмотреть чем там в мире пользуеются, а смотреть начал и присел :)
[01:01:56] webninja: в передовых странах что используют ))
[01:01:57] slav0nic: scraperwiki.com всякие)
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[01:02:23] alexey-grom: я еще тогда подумал не зря же он индус
[01:04:20] alexey-grom: точно, 3 часа
[01:04:21] alexey-grom: https://us.pycon.org/2012/schedule/presentation/317/
[01:05:08] alexey-grom: он как бы ориентировался на вообще не имеющих понятия. и в этом смысле доклад конечно годный
[01:05:10] webninja: о нифига, а что за scraperwiki?
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[01:06:07] slav0nic: зайди глянь, там свои примитивные парсеры хз нахера оно надо
[01:07:05] alexey-grom: не, реально как-то индустрия в унынии :) а я еще сетую что граб js выполнять не умеет :)
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[01:12:28] slav0nic: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781593273972.do
тут ваще на рнр)
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[01:15:40] webninja: да индустрии то и нет почти
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[01:23:57] slav0nic: не знаю, на одеске раньше часто проскакивали заказы, правда цены смешные
[01:25:45] webninja: да и щаз
[01:25:51] webninja: да, цены пиздец там 30-40 баксов )
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[01:27:02] slav0nic: ага "и чтоб я потом сам мог настроить!"
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[11:24:37] _lorien: чё-т не пойму как черещ django.test.Client послать просто строку через POST?
[11:25:08] _lorien: feed = feed_item(['0.1'])
data = json.dumps({'feeds': [feed]})
res = client.post('/api/select_bid', data)
так ругается, что у data нет items т.к. ждёт, что там dict будет
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[12:07:45] _lorien: (Pdb) '0.002' > 3
True
(Pdb) '0.002' < 3
False
ёбаный питон
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[12:09:20] mishok13: ебаный второй питон
[12:09:36] mishok13: >>> 2 > "2"
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
TypeError: unorderable types: int() > str()
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[12:10:51] mishok13: самое любимое во втором питоне это вот это:
[12:10:54] mishok13: >>> float('nan') > None
True
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[14:11:44] Paradoxx: Вопрос по django:
Есть такой такая функция в модели
def mask(self):
cidr = ipcalc.Network(self.cidr)
return cidr.netmask()
В качестве атрибута принимает значение поля cidr (например 192.168.0.0/24) и рассчитывает маску. В админке все работает. Пишу view. Если из вьюхи вызывать инстанс класса с этой функцией то в (self.cidr) подставляется <ipcalc.Network object at 0x1472ed0>
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[14:12:35] Paradoxx: нужно чтобы подставлялось значение из базы :)
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[14:20:21] xa4a: ну, во-первых, метод в качестве атрибута принимает инстанс модели, а не значение поля
[14:21:12] xa4a: а подставляется не то из-за того, что ты что-то делаешь не так
[14:21:24] xa4a: причём в твоём описании не понятно, что не так
[14:21:30] xa4a: так что давай больше контекста/кода
[14:21:49] Paradoxx: сейчас
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[14:46:17] Paradoxx: есть время у кого посмотреть мой быдлокод?
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[14:48:03] xa4a: Paradoxx: ты читал туториал по питону?
[14:48:35] xa4a: ок, ты ошибся в последней строке
[14:48:41] xa4a: не self должен быть сетью
[14:48:45] xa4a: а self.cidr
[14:48:53] xa4a: но ошибка в том, что у тебя в cidr фигня
[14:49:00] xa4a: оно и ругается Exception Value: Invalid address input
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[14:51:26] Paradoxx: я понял уже ошибку
[14:51:59] Paradoxx: когда делаю TableIP.objects.all() то функция не выполняется и передается как имя
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[14:58:24] Paradoxx: как побороть только не пойму
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[15:11:15] Paradoxx: xa4a: скажи плиз в чем конкретно ошибка
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[15:17:38] Paradoxx: def mask(self):
cidr = ipcalc.Network(self.cidr)
return cidr.netmask()
вот это верно в целом?
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[15:33:19] xa4a: ошибка в данных
[15:33:27] xa4a: у тебя в поле self.cidr не адрес хранится
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[15:44:39] Paradoxx: а почему тогда в админке работает, а если метод этого класса вызываешь то ошибка?
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[15:46:17] xa4a: в админке что работает?
[15:46:27] xa4a: в админке этот метод вызываешь?
[15:46:52] Paradoxx: class TableIPAdmin(admin.ModelAdmin):
short_description = "Таблица IP адресов"
list_display = ('description', 'cidr', 'mask', 'size', 'host_min', 'host_max',)
ordering = ['description']
fields = ('cidr', 'description',)
search_fields = ('cidr', 'description',)
readonly_fields = ('mask', 'size', 'host_min', 'host_max')
form = tableIpTable
list_filter = (IPBaseFilter,)
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[15:47:41] Paradoxx: ну т.е. получается эти методы отрабатывают, находятся в ридонли
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[15:48:20] Paradoxx: и выводят все верно, т.е. в self.cidr именно данные из бд, а не имя объекта
[15:48:29] xa4a: >_<
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[15:48:42] xa4a: у тебя значит разные объекты показываются в админке и во вьюхе
[15:48:47] cutwater: Ку всем
[15:49:23] cutwater: Любопытно таки Армин нам сегодня расскажет когда будет Flask для Python 3 ?
[15:49:41] Paradoxx: xa4a: что значит разные, имя то одно
[15:50:32] Paradoxx: хорошо, поставлю вопрос иначе, как правильно во вьюхе вызвать метод класса
[15:50:42] xa4a: Paradoxx: разные - это в одном случае у них всё ок в cidr, а в другом - фигня в cidr
[15:50:55] xa4a: ты всё правильно вызываешь
[15:51:05] xa4a: только у тебя в объекте неправильные данные
[15:51:31] xa4a: сделай перед вызовом метода print self.id, self.cidr
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[15:51:41] xa4a: и посмотри, какие данные у тебя в поле лежат
[15:51:45] Paradoxx: ок
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[15:52:02] xa4a: а потом сделай ipcalc.Network(self.cidr) и пойми, почему ошибка
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[15:53:03] xa4a: *перед выховом мметода = во вьюхе сделай for t in TableIP.objects.all(): print (t.id, t.cidr)\nprint t.mask()
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[16:06:29] Paradoxx: если просто t.mask то - <bound method TableIP.mask of <TableIP: TableIP object>>
если t.mask() то пусто
[16:07:03] Paradoxx: почему пусто :)
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[16:40:51] xa4a: как пусто?
[16:40:54] xa4a: выпадает же иксепшн
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[16:50:31] Paradoxx: for tableall in TableIP.objects.all():
print (tableall.id, tableall.cidr)
print tableall.mask()
вывод принта - (1L, u'10.186.8.0/24')
255.255.255.0
т.е. маску выводит, но эксепшен
[16:50:50] Paradoxx: Exception Value: Invalid address input
self
<ipcalc.Network object at 0x14ed810>
[16:50:59] Paradoxx: нихера не пойму
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[16:56:43] Paradoxx: почему при вызове метода класса в него передается адрес объекта
[16:56:45] xa4a: просто ты врёшь
[16:56:57] xa4a: нуэ..
[16:57:00] Paradoxx: всмысле
[16:57:04] Paradoxx: вру
[16:57:09] xa4a: у тебя только один объект в базе?
[16:57:22] Paradoxx: нет
[16:57:25] Paradoxx: много
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[16:57:30] xa4a: значит это не весь вывод принта
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[16:58:39] Paradoxx: (1L, u'10.186.8.0/24')
255.255.255.0
(2L, u'10.186.106.0/24')
255.255.255.0
(3L, u'10.186.103.0/24 ')
[16:58:43] Paradoxx: выводит по 3
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[17:06:37] xa4a: а потом иксепшн?
[17:07:01] xa4a: ну как бы.. уже видно проблему
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[17:07:51] xa4a: но если не видно - попробуй ipcalc.Network(….) от последней строки в твоём предыдущем сообщении
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[17:09:57] Paradoxx: ipcalc.Network('10.186.103.0/24') то выводит маску
[17:10:19] Paradoxx: но это все должно происходит в модели, в модели
def mask(self):
cidr = ipcalc.Network(self.cidr)
return cidr.netmask()
[17:10:42] Paradoxx: т.е. подставляется поле self.cidr из класса
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[17:20:50] xa4a: ты опять врёшь
[17:21:01] xa4a: у тебя там последняя строка была не '10.186.103.0/24'
[17:22:23] Paradoxx: а какая?
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[17:22:37] xa4a: '10.186.103.0/24 '
[17:23:11] Paradoxx: [17:09:55] | Paradoxx: ipcalc.Network('10.186.103.0/24') то выводит маску
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[17:23:42] xa4a: ещё раз: у тебя в модели не '10.186.103.0/24', а '10.186.103.0/24 '
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[17:24:00] xa4a: >>> '10.186.103.0/24' == '10.186.103.0/24 '
False

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[17:26:49] Paradoxx: ыыы
[17:26:55] Paradoxx: вот бля то в натуре бля
[17:27:23] Paradoxx: спасибо xa4a, все заработало )
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[17:31:46] Paradoxx: как всегда на мелочи провозился дофига времени
[17:32:31] xa4a: потому что туториала по питону не читал
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[17:35:40] Paradoxx: читаю периодически
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[18:50:59] _lorien: у меня показывалась, потом кнопка play появилась снизу
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[19:05:07] _lorien: поиграл 5 минут и заебло ))
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[19:18:15] webninja: )
[19:18:23] webninja: я в опен играл
[19:18:32] webninja: иногда залипал на пару часов )
[19:18:35] webninja: там можно интересные развязки строить
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[19:27:57] Tony: напомните плиз годного зарубежного регистратора доменов
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[19:29:58] _lorien: годади?
[19:30:04] Tony: дорого
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[19:31:24] Tony: http://www.internetbs.net/
[19:33:53] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[19:38:12] Tony: чем меня напрягают эти буржуйские регистраторы они все минимум 60 баксов просят себе
[19:39:09] _lorien: ого
[19:39:12] _lorien: что за домен?
[19:39:22] _lorien: i7.ru - я тут все домены держу
[19:39:30] _lorien: у меня в основном .ru
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[20:59:29] xa4a: gandi?
[20:59:56] xa4a: gandi.net
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[21:00:32] _lorien: там наверное не оч дёшево
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[21:03:29] xa4a: ну вон .eu за 1 евро :)
[21:03:54] _lorien: норм )
[21:04:22] xa4a: ну я вообще не знаю, дорого ли, вот: http://www.gandi.net/domain/price/info
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[21:04:42] xa4a: я за всю жизнь только пару доменов регистрировал в бесплатном .org.ua
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[21:06:24] _lorien: 1 евро норм, например себистоимость ру домена два бака
[21:06:32] _lorien: а конечная цена уже от 2 до 20 o_O
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[21:15:46] xa4a: себестоимость домена - это как?
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[21:17:31] _lorien: это цена по которой его продаёт "производитель", как там, самый начальный регистратор
[21:17:33] _lorien: не знаю, как правильно называется
[21:18:01] _lorien: а потом уже вторичный регистратор накручивает, а часто он продаёт более мелким оптовикам, те её чо-нить накручивают
[21:18:24] _lorien: 2бакса всегда такая была себистоимость, но раньше вроде как официально запрещали продавать дешевле 20 баков )
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[21:24:20] xa4a: а самому у производителя на фабрике нельзя .ru купить?
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[21:25:22] _lorien: вряд ли, какой им смысл морочаться
[21:25:34] _lorien: ну я не утверждаю, но логично предположить, что пошлют на йух
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[21:52:18] slav0nic: https://www.youtube.com/user/PythonItalia видос выкладывают потихоньку
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[22:00:21] slav0nic: качество как на нокию снимали %)
[22:00:24] webninja: годный регистратор - namecheap.com
[22:00:29] webninja: доменов
[22:01:53] slav0nic: dynadot юзаю, за дизайн) простой гиковский
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