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[06:38:30] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[07:28:02] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[10:38:47] slav0nic: никому с укр не надо pocketbook basic 611 новый, за 1200?)
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[11:14:50] webninja: 1200 долларов?
[11:19:41] slav0nic: евро ёпт
[11:19:43] slav0nic: гривен
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[11:49:38] mishok13: но киндл же дешевле :/
[11:52:51] slav0nic: кому как) мне киндл не нра
[11:53:00] slav0nic: я с основном если чита., то fb2
[11:53:10] slav0nic: да и я покупал отцу) киндл посему отпал)
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[11:57:04] mishok13: мне киндл нравится по очень простому факту — если я вижу интересную статью/блогпост, я жмякаю Read Later на закладке Readability и в тот же вечер книга уже на моем киндле
[11:58:15] mishok13: ну и плюс, книгу я могу почитать где угодно в любой момент — андроид, лэптоп, можно через веб
[11:58:28] mishok13: киндл это сервис в первую очередь, конечно
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[12:14:25] webninja: slav0nic что за гривны еще?
[12:14:45] slav0nic: webninja, у меня нет настроения для троллинга)
[12:14:51] webninja: я купил ONDA VI10 Elite за 129 баксов )
[12:14:57] webninja: зато у меня есть гг )
[12:15:42] webninja: эти онда неслабо разогнались вообще, китай скоро зарулит самсунгов всяких
[12:16:13] webninja: http://www.buysku.com/wholesale/ONDA-Vi10-Elite-Version-A10-1-5GHz-1G-8G-Android-4-0-7-inch-Capacitive-Touchscreen-Tablet-PC-with-WiFi-HDMI-Camera.html
[12:16:26] webninja: пока шел цена до 100 бачей упала
[12:17:50] slav0nic: я пока не придумал зачем мне планшет)
[12:18:25] slav0nic: # delete the last 10 lines of a file
sed -e :a -e '$d;N;2,10ba' -e 'P;D' # method 1
sed -n -e :a -e '1,10!{P;N;D;};N;ba' # method 2

мля O_o
[12:20:03] mishok13: блядь
[12:20:05] webninja: slav0nic я тоже не придумал, ну т.е. нет никаких требований чтобы даже сформулировать, поэтому купил что под руку попалось, был обзор на хабре этой штуки. ну теперь более менее понятно что нужно вообще от планшета.
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[12:22:03] slav0nic: как же я ненавижу писать bash скрипты по работе, ещё и под долбаных hp-ux
[12:24:50] levsha: /me продал свой планшет после года пользования
[12:26:22] slav0nic: я вот себе эмулятор сег дендей и тп заказал )
[12:26:33] slav0nic: на линупсе
[12:26:40] slav0nic: андроид что-то меня не заводит
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[12:35:24] webninja: ты чо )
[12:35:28] webninja: блин на андроиде это есть
[12:35:41] webninja: можно взять просто планшет сразу как джойстик
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[12:36:15] webninja: и рубится во все игры такого плана, я вот недавно закачал супер марио бросс 3 rom ) работает отлично
[12:36:45] mishok13: эээ
[12:36:53] mishok13: планшет как джойстик?
[12:37:15] webninja: ну типа с кнопками
[12:37:20] mishok13: мне кажется, ты не очень часто играешь в игры на приставке
[12:37:31] mishok13: *приставках
[12:37:56] mishok13: возьми в руки XBox'овский геймпад и сравни с планшетом
[12:38:01] mishok13: почувствуй разницу
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[12:39:35] webninja: http://habrahabr.ru/post/145028/
[12:39:37] webninja: ну как бы вот
[12:40:00] webninja: http://habrastorage.org/storage2/564/663/49e/56466349e00d5200a0168e028d57226d.jpg
[12:40:04] webninja: это девайс с андроидом
[12:40:28] webninja: предустановлены NES, Sega Mega Drive, Nintendo 64, GameBoyAdvance, MAME
[12:40:30] webninja: атас ваще
[12:41:39] webninja: а на обычных планшетах само собой кнопки виртуальные это не то, да
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[12:41:46] mishok13: 77 баксов == дерьмовый пластик, pad stick сломается моментально, шифты разболтаются через пару месяцев,
[12:41:54] mishok13: и т.д.
[12:42:15] mishok13: цены на handheld'ы отнюдь не с потолка берутся
[12:43:16] mishok13: батарея скорее всего не протянет больше полугода
[12:43:28] webninja: ну я не знаю не смотрел, ну вот то что пришло за 100 бачей от ONDA хорошо собрано.
[12:43:45] webninja: как называется?
[12:43:48] webninja: handheld?
[12:44:18] mishok13: handheld console == PSP, PS Vita, Nintendo 3DS,
[12:44:53] webninja: короче я думаю китай скоро будет заруливать по части планшетов
[12:45:05] mishok13: у планшета самое главное — батарейка
[12:45:24] mishok13: а судя по ценам, ставится самое дешевое говно с ресурсом на пару месяцев
[12:45:54] webninja: может быть
[12:45:57] mishok13: вон папа у меня купил китайский планшет, за полтора года ресурс батарейки от 8 часов без зарядки упал до 40 минут без зарядки
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[12:46:14] webninja: через полтора года можно новый взять.
[12:46:24] mishok13: охуенная логика
[12:46:40] webninja: ну да, так они обновляются постоянно, за 1.5 года девайс устареет
[12:46:57] mishok13: устареет для чего?
[12:47:11] mishok13: для чтения книг и лазания в интернетиках?
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[12:48:44] webninja: за 77 я бы тоже не взял, ну можно посмотреть что есть такого до 200 например.
[12:49:50] webninja: сама идея рубится в эмуляторы понравилась.
[12:50:14] xa4a: за 200 вон есть nexus 7 ^_^
[12:50:33] xa4a: теперь в нём 4 ядра и он почти не тормозит :)
[12:51:07] xa4a: и 12-core GPU
[12:51:57] webninja: это у вас там наверное за 200 баксов
[12:52:05] webninja: тут он будет по 30 тыщ лежать
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[12:52:35] webninja: или сколько там в гривнах гг
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[12:55:09] slav0nic: webninja, эмульку я себе http://game-consoles-worldwide.blogspot.com/2012/05/we-are-currently-developing-portable.html заказал, на андроиде вроде считается китайским ширпотребом, там даже есть известная проблема с тормозами звука
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[12:56:32] webninja: блин круто
[12:56:37] webninja: памяти маловато правда
[12:56:51] singularity: slav0nic: ты с Киева?
[12:56:55] slav0nic: ну и книги с e-inc, как по мне поприятней читаются, чем с обычного планшета, каждому своё, часто вижу как народ читает со старых нокий
[12:56:59] slav0nic: singularity, днепр
[12:57:05] singularity: :-(
[12:57:09] slav0nic: а что?
[12:57:16] singularity: я б купил
[12:57:21] slav0nic: ну есть новая почта
[12:57:22] singularity: как раз деньги есть
[12:57:25] slav0nic: не вопрос отправить
[12:57:44] slav0nic: могу за 1150, доставка будет рублей 60-70 =\
[12:57:51] slav0nic: хотя, 50-60
[12:58:13] singularity: не я стремаю
[12:58:22] slav0nic: %) чё?
[12:58:30] slav0nic: оплата по факту ж
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[13:19:20] gigimon: новая почта рулит
[13:19:31] webninja: что за новая почта?
[13:19:34] webninja: у нас вот старая
[13:19:43] webninja: херня какая-то
[13:20:03] webninja: 6 окошер больше 2х рабочих ни разу не видел и так в любом отделении
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[13:35:05] cutwater: webninja: это в / на украине?
[13:36:04] webninja: нет это в "энергетической супердержаве"
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[13:36:46] slav0nic: gigimon, после доставки из киева пакета грамм 400 за 70 грн, я как-то задумался)
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[13:40:33] slav0nic: из китая и то на шару доставляют)
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[13:44:08] alexey-grom is now QIP 2012 - всё работает. Качай на www.qip.ru
[13:45:13] alexey-grom: а что надо делать чтобы одновлять сессию? я в одном клиенте записи в бд вставляю, а в другой о них не знает. session.commit() делаю, что это может быть?
[13:46:02] alexey-grom: и в бд новые строки появляются, но второй клиент все равно ничего не знает
[13:46:18] alexey-grom: движок - мускул
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[13:55:32] gigimon: slav0nic: ну хз, не забывай, что еще ж прцоент за оплату на месте
[13:57:16] alexey-grom: вот чорт. мой косяк - я подумал что добавил запись, а на самом деле нет :)
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[14:14:38] webninja: да
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[14:24:44] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[18:24:42] webninja: бро лориен в тайланде уже ы
[18:24:46] webninja: я в августе еду
[18:25:01] webninja: огыешсук а ты когда?
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[18:58:46] webninja: а если я .profile поменял для текущего юзера в лине, как применить его?
[18:58:49] webninja: без ребута
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[18:59:41] xa4a: source ~/.profile
[18:59:44] xa4a: или . ~/.profile
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[19:06:54] levsha: "без ребута", капец
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[19:20:10] огыешсук: webninja: осенью, чего там летом то делать?
[19:20:26] огыешсук: webninja: где вы там поселились?
[19:21:02] webninja: ну я хз как там лориен, я надолго хочу.
[19:23:06] webninja: levsha что не так?
[19:23:43] webninja: огыешсук после лета сезон дождей как бы
[19:24:00] webninja: ну август вообще уже конец лета поэтому как раз
[19:24:25] огыешсук: не то чтобы дождей, но влажность в прошлом году была в ноябре сильная, да
[19:24:38] огыешсук: но раньше не вижу смысла туда ехать
[19:24:47] webninja: а ты в россии?
[19:24:49] огыешсук: да
[19:24:59] levsha: webninja: .profile имеет отношение к login shell. Это насколько нужно не понимать что и как работает если допускать вариант что для его применения нужно ребутнуть сервер?
[19:25:24] webninja: ну так я просто пользователь
[19:26:10] webninja: пройдет еще пара лет и может я буду понимать детально как там что работает.
[19:26:57] webninja: при чем тут сервер я на десктопе меняю.
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[19:30:31] levsha: какая разница то
[19:32:21] webninja: хм надо же source работает
[19:34:25] webninja: так это можно просто записать изменения и они сразу будут работать?
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[19:35:51] webninja: The source command in shell is used to execute commands from a file in the current shell. This is useful to load function or variables stored in another file.
[19:36:20] xa4a: webninja: перезагружаться в линуксе надо только чтобы ядро обновить
[19:36:29] xa4a: и то не всегда
[19:36:34] xa4a: всё остальное делается без перезагрузки
[19:36:45] webninja: ну я вообще под ребутом имел в виду логаут из сессии
[19:38:05] xa4a: смотря какой
[19:38:31] xa4a: если настройки шела меняешь - достаточно настройки шела перегрузить, или сам шел
[19:38:42] xa4a: иногда надо иксы перезапустить
[19:40:08] webninja: ну вот.
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[19:40:43] webninja: спасибо mr. xa4a )
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[21:08:50] aries.ua: Всем ку!
[21:09:11] aries.ua: Народ как переопределить виджет для поля загрузки файла?
[21:09:49] xa4a: в джанге?
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[21:12:55] aries.ua: lf
[21:12:58] aries.ua: да :)
[21:13:07] xa4a: widget=MyWidget, должно быть
[21:13:28] aries.ua: там просто два виджета CleatFileInput и FileInput
[21:13:37] aries.ua: оба используются
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[21:14:03] aries.ua: т.е если есть значение то клиир. Если нет, поле.
[21:14:21] aries.ua: Но мне надо вместо ссылки на файл (картинка), отображать картинку
[21:15:21] xa4a: посмотри, в каком из них отображается ссылка
[21:16:15] aries.ua: а как посмотреть?
[21:16:55] xa4a: открыть исходники
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