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[10:24:27] metall1c: всем привет
[10:25:02] metall1c: а что в методе clean_fieldname (в формах), я не могу получить доступ к данным остальных полей формы?
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[10:42:44] metall1c: в методе clean() у формы можно возбудить исключение для какого-то определенного поля?
[10:42:46] gigimon: metall1c: можешь, но не нужно
[10:42:53] metall1c: почему?
[10:43:03] gigimon: в clean_field надо делать валидацию только этого поля
[10:43:09] gigimon: в clean - валидацию нескольких полей
[10:43:24] metall1c: я не могу в clean_field получить доступ к данным другого поля
[10:43:36] metall1c: у меня валидация одного поля зависит от значения другого
[10:44:17] metall1c: как реализовать? только clean() вижу может дать доступ к значениям других полей через self.cleaned_data
[10:44:40] metall1c: self.cleaned_data в методе clean_field() содержит значение только своего поля
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[10:44:51] metall1c: gigimon: или я не прав и что-то не так делаю?
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[10:45:45] gigimon: ну cleaned_data содержит значения всех полей, но т.к. они записываются туда после выполнения clean_field то не факт, что там будет значение
[10:45:50] gigimon: поэтому и стоит в clean()
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[10:48:01] metall1c: т.е. чтобы получить доступ к значению другого поля мне надо использовать clean(), но он генерит исключение для поля __all__
[10:48:26] gigimon: доку по формам прошерсти и поймешь че как
[10:49:08] gigimon: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/forms/validation/#cleaning-and-validating-fields-that-depend-on-each-other
[10:49:12] gigimon: вот там сказано для поля
[10:56:59] metall1c: gigimon: спасибо, все получилось
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[12:49:14] metall1c: что-то не соображу как реализовать
[12:49:29] metall1c: надо сделать фоому добавления чего-либо, в ней есть поле типа select
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[12:50:02] metall1c: вот мне надо добавить варианты в этот select исходя из того, какие есть записи в определенной модели
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[12:50:38] metall1c: вообще это выпадающий список групп, т.е. мне надо выбрать в какую группу включить пользователя при добавлении
[12:50:55] metall1c: но проблема в том, что модель пользователей и модель групп между собой не связаны
[12:51:13] metall1c: так получилось, это унаследованная БД в кривом формате, ее нельзя изменить
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[12:51:41] metall1c: т.е. мне при добавлении пользователя надо построить select со списком групп
[12:51:44] metall1c: понятно объяснил?
[12:52:41] gigimon: да
[12:52:43] gigimon: и в чем проблема?
[12:52:53] gigimon: в __init__ формы заполняй нужный тебе селект
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[12:53:53] metall1c: как это в инит формы? т.е. кортеж с нужными селектами составить?
[12:54:07] gigimon: шас
[12:54:09] metall1c: так вручную понятно как это делается для поля ChoiceField, но мне же динамически нужно составлять
[12:54:13] gigimon: ну вообще да
[12:54:20] gigimon: ну
[12:54:28] gigimon: при создании формы динамически и суется
[12:55:18] metall1c: при создании формы - да, но если я добавил/удалил/переименовал группу, то что, мне в код формы лезть и добавлять/удалять/переименовывать руками список групп? :)
[12:56:44] gigimon: http://dpaste.org/eAvs4/
[12:56:54] gigimon: епт
[12:56:59] gigimon: в __init__ генери его и подставляй
[12:57:38] metall1c: я не понимаю где это, я думал ты про это http://dumpz.org/232456/
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[12:58:09] metall1c: аа, в методе __init__ можно составить список GROUPS ?
[12:58:41] gigimon: да
[12:59:03] metall1c: понял, щас погляжу, спс
[12:59:13] gigimon: ну только не так как у тебя, не groups составляешь, а в init делаешь тупл и его суешь филду
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[17:48:20] michael.sedletsky: всем привет. знаю что канал немного не тот, но сайтостроев тут достаточно а другого адекватного коммюнити на ум не приходит. подскажите как нагуглить мануалы по поводу оптимизации работы с дом. ну там, например, каждый раз когда мы делаем innerHTML = '' происходит обход дерева, читал такое ранее где-то не могу найти хоть убей...
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[23:12:40] Tony: посоветуйте замену для mongoengine
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[23:22:40] Tony: а потом сделать свою абстракцию?
[23:22:44] Tony: не, нахуй так жить
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[23:25:50] gigimon: Tony: тебе орм или что?
[23:26:14] Tony: gigimon, ага, хотя я уже кажется понял что по сути сорта говна
[23:26:20] Tony: все орм для монго
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[23:26:39] gigimon: блин, а я забыл что мы на работе заюзали
[23:27:00] Tony: ну их по идее mongoengine, mongokit, ming и minimongo
[23:27:06] Tony: еще что-то специально для django было
[23:27:16] gigimon: монгокит мы вроде юзаем
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[23:27:50] Tony: мне он показался худшим вариантом
[23:28:59] Tony: запись вида huita['fieldname'] вместо huita.fieldname мне чем-то напоминает php :)
[23:29:57] Tony: а mongoengine вроде всем хорош, но там такой пиздец внутри
[23:30:07] Tony: а нет не всем
[23:30:21] Tony: он не умеет делать id для вложенных коллекций
[23:30:29] Tony: т.е для вложенных документов
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[23:32:26] gigimon: допиши :)
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[23:34:36] Tony: там ее надо на 70% где-то переписать
[23:34:40] Tony: точней вообще всю переписать
[23:35:38] Tony:
if not (hasattr(self, '_meta') and
self._meta.get('allow_inheritance', True) == False):

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[23:35:47] Tony: вот над этим я мидитировал почти полчаса
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[23:37:22] gigimon: нууу, смысл имеет, но можно укоротить
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[23:37:56] Tony: == False вообще везде
[23:38:01] Tony: кошмар
[23:38:02] gigimon: гг
[23:38:13] Tony: еще .get(smth, None) во всех диктах
[23:38:17] gigimon: странные чуваки
[23:38:28] gigimon: ну мож для совместимости это?
[23:38:31] gigimon: с None
[23:39:07] gigimon: вроде ж до 2.6 не возвращало по умолчанию None
[23:39:25] Tony: в 2.5 уже возвращался
[23:39:32] gigimon: тогда хз
[23:39:37] gigimon: 2.4 нет смысла поддерживать
[23:40:37] Tony: да там смысл в том что есть вещи которые в 2.5 даже не будут работать
[23:40:45] Tony: они не очевидные и зарыты где-то допустим в эксепшн полей
[23:40:46] gigimon: %)
[23:40:48] Tony: просто никто не тестировал
[23:40:53] Tony: зато .get(smth, None) везде
[23:41:03] gigimon: а вдруг, не то вернет
[23:41:18] Tony: лол да
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[23:43:21] gigimon: никто кстати libcloud или cloudstack не юзает?)
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[23:47:54] Tony: зачем-то метоинформацию моделей сделали в dict а не классом
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[23:48:08] Tony: гвидо блядь завещал что аналог структуры из C это класс
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[23:48:36] Tony: при том напилили магии с наследованием метаинформации, вот захуй?
[23:50:23] gigimon: ыы
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