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[00:52:49] noobik: товарищи, делаю поиск регулярки:
a = re.findall(r'<div>.*?\((.*?)\)')
print a
['\x88\xa2\xa0\xad']
Это Иван. Если менять кодировку, то вернет другое. Как мне проерить ,иван там или не Иван?

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[00:53:59] noobik: мой сурс в утф-8, а файлы, в которых я ищу, могут быть разной кодировки
[00:55:29] V0id: так ты это, инпут-то перекодируй. как ты собрался сравнивать строки в неизвестных кодировках?
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[00:56:40] noobik: сделать что-то вроде b = a[0].encode('utf-8') ?
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[00:59:51] V0id: с высоты всех 10-ти сток, которые я написал на питоние, я бы сказал, что скорее что-то типа:
b = unicode(a[0], 'myInputEncoding')
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[01:03:51] noobik: да
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[01:04:01] noobik: я просто запутался со всеми этими кродировками
[01:04:23] noobik: сейчас добавил еще 1 ре, которые читает charset
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[02:35:57] xa4a: noobik, V0id: что вы глупости советуете
[02:36:14] xa4a: а, нет. только V0id :)
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[02:38:03] V0id: лучше же никто не посоветовал, а человеку помогло
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[02:38:24] V0id: дельные комментарии будут или обойдемся потешеным самолюбием?
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[02:48:13] xa4a: V0id: правильно - на входе данные раскодировать из какой-то внешней кодировки в юникод
[02:48:19] xa4a: в программе работать только с юникодом
[02:48:28] xa4a: и на выходе из программы - закодировать в нужную кодировку
[02:48:36] V0id: а я что посоветовал?
[02:48:54] xa4a: посреди программы закодированную строку в юникод раскодировать
[02:48:56] xa4a: не на входе
[02:49:03] xa4a: а уже где-то между обработками
[02:49:18] xa4a: а потмо ищи по программе, где у тебя байтстринги, а где юникоды
[02:51:40] V0id: что-то я не заметил никакого начала, конца и середны программы. я ему сказал, как сделать нормальную юникодную строку из того, что к нему приходит и понадеялся на то, что он сам догадается, куда это разместить. а судя потому, что у него "Иван" получался разным при разных входных данных, то "нормальной юникодной строкой" у него и не пахло в это месте.
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[11:52:31] singularity: Как можно узнать посещалку сайта?
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[13:34:35] gigimon: кто большой знаток xmpp?
[13:35:08] gigimon: расскажите, как называются в нем права и как их давать? в irc зовется voice, чтобы можно было говорить в конференции, а в xmpp?
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[13:54:20] V0id: в xmpp есть role и есть affilation. давать можно посылкой соответсвующей станзы. что куда слать пишут тут http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html/
[13:54:23] V0id: gigimon:
[13:54:52] V0id: xa4a: ты бы еще на гугл ссылку дал. вопрос был совсем другой
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[13:56:07] gigimon: V0id: спасибо кэп, этот хер я прочитал, вот только не увидел, что посылать для смены роли
[13:56:41] gigimon: а во
[13:56:43] gigimon: нашел
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[13:57:11] V0id: депутат?
[13:57:14] gigimon: мда, адиум явно этого не умеет, хоть исходники ковырять
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[13:58:21] andreyjkee: gigimon: что в гуе нет значит не умеет?))
[13:58:32] gigimon: andreyjkee: расскажи как
[13:58:33] gigimon: буду рад
[13:58:38] andreyjkee: ./help
[13:58:38] gigimon: нагуглить тож не получается
[13:58:43] gigimon: /help
[13:58:48] gigimon: и фигу)
[13:58:53] andreyjkee: 13:58:06 - Commands: affiliate, away, back, ban, busy, config, configure, dnd, help, invite, join, kick, mood, msg, nick, offline, part, ping, raw, register, role, say, topic.
Use /help <command> for more information.
[13:59:09] gigimon: у тебя ввод /help посылает его в чат
[13:59:09] andreyjkee: say test
[13:59:13] gigimon: у меня*
[13:59:19] andreyjkee: ага
[13:59:21] andreyjkee: странно
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[13:59:36] gigimon: адиум он такой, странный)
[13:59:46] gigimon: и /help было первое, что пришло на ум_
[13:59:46] andreyjkee: instantbird наше всё
[13:59:54] gigimon: он ужасно выглядит в маке
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[14:00:58] andreyjkee: я тоже раньше любил свистелики и перделки поэтому юзал кип пока они не стали туда пихать подвески для браузеров
[14:01:25] gigimon: andreyjkee: ну, у меня дефолтный адиум
[14:01:36] gigimon: просто под мак это единственное нативное от чего не тянет блевать)
[14:01:42] gigimon: ichat жуть и пиздец
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[14:01:46] gigimon: а больше и IM нету
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[14:03:00] V0id: noobik: тут говорят, что я тебя плохому научил. тыкай xa4a, пусть он тебе расскажет, как твою проблему решают четкие пацаны
[14:03:14] gigimon: у как возбудился V0id
[14:03:53] noobik: V0id: не переживай, твоя помощь мне подошла.
[14:04:18] noobik: у меня не настолько грандиозный проект :)
[14:04:46] V0id: noobik: быдлокодить в любом проекте неприяно, я считаю
[14:06:03] noobik: городить огород ради одного слова тоже смысла не вижу
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[14:15:57] noobik: а у кого-то есть обфускатор питоновского кода?
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[14:18:55] gigimon: что за чушь
[14:19:14] gigimon: почему каждый второй новичок ищет пути сокрытия своего кода?
[14:19:27] gigimon: да кому он нахрен нужен, код твой
[14:21:11] noobik: а по делу есть что?:)
[14:22:24] gigimon: да, обфускаторов питона нету
[14:22:34] gigimon: также как и спрятать код нельзя
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[14:22:39] noobik: а если найду?
[14:22:41] gigimon: ищи
[14:22:57] gigimon: как ты себе представляешь обфускатор питон кода?
[14:23:37] gigimon: да и щас еще кто-то обфусцирует код для сокрытия данных?
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[14:26:18] noobik: просто для того, чтоб снизить читабельность код а:)
[14:27:21] noobik: типа такого https://privatepaste.com/1b976c4dcd
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[14:30:29] V0id: а скомпиленые в байт-код кеши ведь можно юзать без исходников, не?
[14:30:43] gigimon: можно
[14:30:47] noobik: да
[14:30:48] gigimon: но они раскрываются легко
[14:30:56] noobik: можно даже на Си скомпилить наверное
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[14:31:11] gigimon: noobik: пф, сильно надо будет, за часик тупой заменой по коду все приведется к нормальному виду
[14:31:16] V0id: хз, я когда-то искал декомпилятор, но так нормального ничего и не нашел
[14:31:23] gigimon: есть ои
[14:31:26] gigimon: и сервисы есть
[14:31:34] gigimon: за 5 баксов метр pyc раскодируют
[14:31:40] noobik: gigimon: я знаю, что код на питоне не защищается
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[14:32:01] gigimon: какой use-case так сказать для этого?
[14:32:13] gigimon: если сайт, то твой код никто не видит
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[14:32:20] gigimon: если отдаешь заказчику, то он имеет право на код
[14:32:27] gigimon: зачем его обфусцировать?
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[14:33:08] gigimon: если ты продаешь продукт, то тот, кто его купил не будет перепродавать, будет - найдешь
[14:33:15] gigimon: если захочет допилить, его право
[14:34:01] noobik: так красивее же
[14:35:56] gigimon: как?
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[14:36:33] noobik: такими вот iiIIIiii11
[14:36:42] noobik: пыщ-пыщ еще надо
[14:37:05] gigimon: кхм...
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[15:37:10] singularity: в гугеле куча всяких декомпиляторов
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[15:38:17] noobik: !g гугель
[15:38:34] webninja: !g mishok13
[15:38:57] webninja: надо зафалловить, чо )
[15:39:23] xa4a: V0id: какой был вопрос? Если имелся в виду референсный ответ на вопрос, который тут в чате был, то не a[0].decode('utf-8'), а перед регекспом txt = txt.decode('utf-8') и потом регексп в re.U
[15:39:26] singularity: !g webninja
[15:39:39] webninja: ага гг
[15:39:59] singularity: !g webninja python
[15:40:16] webninja: не )
[15:40:16] singularity: !g webninja блог
[15:40:20] webninja: я юзаю ники разные
[15:40:29] noobik: !g silent_bob
[15:40:34] singularity: !g webninja пкфи
[15:40:54] V0id: > не a[0].decode('utf-8')
> а перед регекспом txt = txt.decode('utf-8')
*facepalm.jpg*
[15:41:23] noobik: V0id: ті о чем?
[15:41:41] singularity: а ті про шо?
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[15:45:32] singularity: когда уже планету на портале допилят?
[15:48:01] xa4a: V0id: ну давай, тогда ты уже аргументируй
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[15:48:38] xa4a: /help
[15:49:01] singularity: me
[15:49:15] singularity: ban xa4a
[15:49:22] singularity: ban banan
[15:49:59] singularity: /me kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[15:50:04] singularity: /me oy
[15:50:43] V0id: xa4a: ты докопался до моего ответа, объявив его глупостью и в корне неправильным, после полу суток пинания ты, в результате, вы дал практически тоже, что и говорил я, при этом утверждая, что твое решение принципиально лучше и теперь требуешь от меня аргументировать? абсурд сложно аргментировать, для этого нужен особый склад мозга
[15:51:40] singularity: V0id: с высоты всех 10-ти сток, которые я написал на питоние, я б
и не стыдно?
[15:51:49] webninja: xa4a Сусанин
[15:51:59] webninja: завел в болото!
[15:52:15] webninja: не видно не зги! какого ты х-я нам пудришь мозги! (с) )))
[15:52:42] V0id: singularity: а чего стыдиться?
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[15:56:04] xa4a: V0id: я не говорил, что твое решение в корне не правильное, но если тебя задело слово "глупость", то извини. На канале часто приходится сталкиваться с людьми, которые не знают что такое юникод, чем он отличается от utf-8 и т.д. Эти люди размножают плохой код, который сложно поддерживать. Поэтому я предпочитаю не отвечать на их вопросы ответами, которые поощряют их неведение юникода.
[15:56:30] noobik: вотЪ :)
[15:56:34] xa4a: лучше сразу посылать на !wtf unicode тогда большинство вопросов отпадет
[15:56:36] webninja: поддреживаю
[15:56:49] singularity: !wtf google
[15:56:49] webninja: есть статья хорошая сразу
[15:56:59] noobik: !wtf ping
[15:57:08] noobik: !wtf python
[15:57:09] singularity: silent_bob: врет же заразза
[15:57:24] noobik: !wtf wtf
[15:57:53] singularity: !wtf jafa
[15:58:16] noobik: приехали
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[15:58:28] singularity: wtf - - jafa <-как это понимать?
[15:58:38] singularity: !g jafa
[15:59:54] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
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[16:00:56] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
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[18:08:39] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
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[18:10:03] singularity: Как посмотреть уже хагруженые модули?
[18:11:05] singularity: *загру
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[18:15:59] singularity: Кто-то говорил что модуль string всегда загружен в озу но не импортирван(как то так)
[18:16:10] singularity: Как посмотреть эти модули?
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[18:26:19] xa4a: singularity: sys.modules
[18:28:33] singularity: не вижу стрингс
[18:28:39] singularity: а так мб
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[18:58:41] mrDoctorWhо.: а можно ли как-то через питоновский os.popen выполнить sudo -i и ввести запрошенный пароль?
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[19:00:42] V0id: ты уже попробовал и не получилось или спрашиваешь разрешения?
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[19:11:32] gigimon: mrDoctorWhо.: 1. используй subprocess 2. можно
[19:11:50] mrDoctorWhо.: gigimon: подскажи как именно
[19:12:17] gigimon: а ты пробовал? повторю V0id
[19:12:36] mrDoctorWhо.: да
[19:12:55] gigimon: и на чем запара?
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[19:13:29] mrDoctorWhо.: sudo: нет tty и не указана программа askpass
Sorry, try again.
sudo: нет tty и не указана программа askpass
Sorry, try again.
sudo: нет tty и не указана программа askpass
Sorry, try again.
sudo: 3 попытки ввода неверного пароля
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[19:13:43] gigimon: shell=True пробовал?
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[19:13:53] mrDoctorWhо.: только с ним и пробовал
[19:14:31] gigimon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1893870
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[19:16:20] mrDoctorWhо.: спасибо
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[19:19:52] mrDoctorWhо.: только как теперь в этом шелее выполнять команды?
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[19:40:36] xa4a: mrDoctorWhо: наверна запустить sudo bash, и посылать ему stdin?
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[20:32:14] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
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[20:55:33] singularity: я сейчас джанго хостинг роздупляю
[20:55:43] singularity: Кому нибудь интересно?
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[20:56:20] sakal: pyramid
[20:56:31] singularity: что?
[20:57:05] sakal: там django, а как же pyramid?
[20:57:35] singularity: Это некомне
[20:57:40] singularity: http://hosting4django.net/
[20:57:48] singularity: там шару дают
[20:58:02] singularity: думаю как свои модули доставить
[20:58:21] singularity: там ведь все через Direct admin
[20:58:52] sakal: без virtualenv?
[20:58:58] singularity: з
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[20:59:15] singularity: дать пароль?
[20:59:27] sakal: дык, там же на главной сказано: virtualenv
[21:00:42] singularity: ну там же нет командной строки
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[21:01:03] singularity: URL-адрес панели управления: http://95.211.120.207:2222/
[21:01:16] singularity: Логин: webpyorg
Пароль: 3D07W4hiox
[21:01:29] singularity: только я там лазю может и не пустить
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[21:03:53] singularity: http://hosting4django.net/knowledgebase/8/-Django-CMS-2.html а данных то к ssh нет
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[21:05:07] sakal: это кто же тебя учил публично выкладывать риквизиты хостинга в чатике? )
[21:05:20] singularity: ну бисплатно видь
[21:05:29] singularity: может кому интересно
[21:05:32] singularity: как и мне
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[21:16:37] singularity: а не ssh есть :)
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[21:20:19] singularity: а не знаете почему нету рута? и sudo не работает
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[21:23:02] sakal: тебе это не нужно
[21:23:41] singularity: прикольно у них там)
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[23:41:19] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
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[23:44:13] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
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