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[00:58:29] singularity: Вы что вымерли все?
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[10:06:12] ink08: нифига не бесплатный этот hosting4django.net, 30 дневная демо бесплатная
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[10:26:23] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[11:37:14] singularity: ну хоть чтото
[11:37:21] singularity: ты знаеш лучше?
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[11:44:50] singularity: а почему easy_install хуже pip?
[11:46:29] webninja: а чем лучше?
[11:46:37] xa4a: singularity: http://www.gramota.ru/class/coach/tbgramota/45_88
[11:46:46] xa4a: singularity: потому что pip умеет удалять
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[11:47:40] webninja: easy_install тоже умеет! берешь такой и sudo rm -r /usr/local/lib/python-dist/package
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[11:48:14] singularity: а где easy_install ?
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[11:49:40] singularity: webninja: а минутку...
[11:49:46] singularity: попробую
[11:49:50] webninja: стой
[11:49:52] webninja: ты чо
[11:50:02] webninja: удалишь папку сразу
[11:50:08] singularity: я знаю)
[11:50:25] webninja: тип недавно рассказывал
[11:50:35] webninja: ему кто-то так пошутил
[11:50:44] webninja: только вот так nohup rm -rf гг
[11:50:57] webninja: и он повелся
[11:51:24] singularity: xa4a: а как правильно написать?
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[11:52:38] singularity: знаеш -> знаешь
[11:52:45] singularity: я понял))
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[11:56:09] singularity: https://github.com/faif/python-patterns кто нибудь их использует? на питоне именно
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[11:57:55] singularity: https://github.com/languages/Bro хаха
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[12:21:46] xa4a: singularity: да, но нет.
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[12:26:41] tvorzasp is now сколько RoR на PHP не портируй, все равно Codeigniter получается
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[12:29:58] webninja: xa4a ты шаришь в генту?
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[12:32:55] blw0rm: >[10:56:09 AM] singularity: https://github.com/faif/python-patterns кто нибудь их использует? на питоне именно
Спасибо, пригодится)

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[15:20:15] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
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[15:21:09] singularity: На хабре пост интересный запостили
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[15:22:13] singularity: http://habrahabr.ru/post/149457/
[15:22:32] singularity: не могу одучиться читать коментарии
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[15:24:34] gigimon: к 2023
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[15:28:05] singularity: а хотелось бы
[15:28:29] singularity: а то живу в самое скушное время
[15:28:44] singularity: всех времен
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[15:32:20] sakal: сроки не то что наивные, они ваще не ясно для кого
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[15:33:02] gigimon: да и к тому же, я как понимаю, в их планах нет возврата астронавтов на хемлю
[15:33:07] gigimon: кто согалсится непонятно
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[15:38:55] singularity: >(13.08.2012 11:21:46) xa4a: singularity: да, но нет.
и как это понимать?
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[15:42:15] xa4a: singularity: использовать конструкции, похожие на те, что по ссылке, не зацикливаясь на названиях, и конкретных реализациях
[15:42:50] xa4a: то есть "решать задачи" вместо демагогии
[15:44:05] singularity: ну так ясно
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[17:19:06] ink08: как проще всего в django сделать логирование изменений базы?
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[17:23:59] andreyjkee: ink08: https://github.com/getsentry/sentry
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[17:25:13] xa4a: build status: failing :(
[17:25:29] xa4a: sно оно только для трейсбеков, видимо
[17:25:44] sakal: sentry всё больше для лога ошибок, а не для аудита
[17:26:01] sakal: и да, sentry активно развивается
[17:26:23] slav0nic: ну если только sql логировать то можно из коробки
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[17:26:35] slav0nic: django.db.backends логгеры есть
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[17:27:32] ink08: да мне бы просто запись вида "кто изменил, что менял, новое значение, старое значение"
[17:27:47] ink08: slav0nic: спс, гляну на django.db.backends
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[17:30:01] ink08: slav0nic: хотя мне кажется это не то, может лучше save() поменять?
[17:31:00] slav0nic: может
[17:31:28] ink08: а где можно взять текущее значение, не лезть же на ним в базу ?
[17:31:41] slav0nic: тебе виднее ;) менять можно и из админки и из формы, + надо всегда знать кто меняет (иметь доступ к реквесту)
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[17:33:06] andreyjkee: из request все можно взять)
[17:33:15] slav0nic: ink08,https://github.com/slav0nic/slav0nic_42test/blob/master/basicapp/models.py#L75 по-моему такое надо было делать на тесты в 42cc)
[17:33:37] andreyjkee: ты это для админки хочешь? там же вроде и так отображаются последние действия
[17:33:56] slav0nic: допили под себя
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[17:34:47] ink08: andreyjkee: в админке не совсем то, что надо
[17:35:58] slav0nic: ink08, глянь мой кодез, и дальше пляши
[17:36:09] ink08: slav0nic: спс, уже смотрю
[17:36:15] slav0nic: сделай просто свою модельку
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[17:38:51] slav0nic: хотя я не помню момжно ли из инстанса достать что на что меняется, но из pre_save сигнала думаю мона
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[17:39:28] slav0nic: как - заёб ковырять В) pdb в руки и глянь чё там есть, по идее _initial_fieldname старое значение
[17:39:52] cutwater: утро
[17:39:55] cutwater: slav0nic: так может мы все таки его забаним? =)))
[17:40:15] slav0nic: cutwater, )
он вроде угомонился
[17:40:24] cutwater: ну ок
[17:40:35] cutwater: давно я ничего на форум не писал
[17:40:36] slav0nic: да и иногда бодрит скучные будни В))
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[17:40:47] slav0nic: да я тоже не особо) да и не кодил %)
[17:41:04] cutwater: ага. вот покодить кроме работы не шибко удается
[17:41:11] cutwater: все хочется чего-то странного написать
[17:41:19] cutwater: типа своего файл-менеджера
[17:41:23] slav0nic: надо будет С вспомнить студ времён, поковырять pcoketbook SDK)) но всё дальше хеллоу ворлдов не идёт
[17:41:35] cutwater: но я проблему чисто внутреннюю до сих пор не решил. например надо хранить конфиги
[17:41:44] cutwater: есть 10 способов разных по удобству и извращенности
[17:41:47] cutwater: надо выбрать один
[17:41:55] cutwater: какой? какой лучше? какой удобней:
[17:42:03] slav0nic: mc устраивает)
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[17:53:07] ink08: cutwater: за что меня банить? о_О
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[17:53:43] andreyjkee: прикольно, в пайчарме юмл появился
[17:53:45] andreyjkee: в eap'e
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[17:56:38] singularity: ink08: это про форум вроде
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[17:56:51] singularity: про odnochlena (?)
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[18:11:50] slav0nic: singularity, да
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[18:59:11] webninja: гг
[18:59:22] webninja: бля на канале эрланга какой-то тоталитаризм
[18:59:25] webninja: жосткий
[19:01:19] levsha: это же хорошо
[19:02:07] singularity: вай ?
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[19:40:51] огыешсук: webninja: Есть ещё erlang-talks, оффтопик там весь.
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[20:47:22] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
[20:47:58] singularity: а давно гугл сменил фавикон?
[20:48:23] singularity: судя по моей хистрори
[20:48:25] singularity: вчера уже была
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[20:48:53] singularity: я слоупок :(
[20:49:32] singularity: как внезапно даже без статьи на хабре
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[22:24:57] singularity is now Когда ты говоришь какую-то нелепую хуйню, то главное делай вид, будто ты знаешь что делаешь.
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[22:29:17] biert: лол
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[22:31:07] singularity: я что давно уже?
[22:31:22] biert: че
[22:31:39] singularity: а что "лол " ?
[22:32:15] biert: засмеялся из того что ты писал о фавиконе гугла
[22:33:25] singularity: а давно уже сменили?
[22:33:51] biert: не вкурсе
[22:34:02] biert: давно не был за компьютером
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[23:06:37] singularity: Value Phone это что?
[23:07:28] singularity: Хотю сграбить ebay и не знаю как переводится
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[23:09:59] biert: http://lenta.ru/news/2012/07/24/scutterist/
[23:10:42] gigimon: чуваки, знаю что не по теме, но посоветуйте кино для расслабления)
[23:10:44] gigimon: комедию
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[23:20:54] aries.ua: Глубокие глотки :D
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[23:22:16] biert: the new kids turbo
[23:23:05] biert: gigimon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6hwjSXUUv8
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