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[04:54:54] neoascetic: __import__ питоновский требует, чтобы 4м параметром был список или строка... и ругается на юникодные строки, сцуко. как отучить?
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[05:01:07] neoascetic: другой вопрос. балуюсь "from __future__ import unicode_literals"
а как указать, что вот это вот - должно быть именно строкой, а не юникодом? явно вызывать str()?
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[08:27:21] neoascetic: объясните пожалуйста, зачем многие товарищи (авторы django-cms, например) хранят компилированные файлы переводов в репозитории
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[12:51:28] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[13:09:00] gigimon: чуваки, никто незнает что будет на pycon в этом году?
[13:09:04] gigimon: а то фирма отправляет :)
[13:09:15] gigimon: украинском
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[13:12:14] sakal: вроде же была предварительная программа
[13:12:16] sakal: на сайте
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[13:17:44] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
[13:18:22] gigimon: пока там только 2 темы
[13:18:26] sakal is now online
[13:18:30] gigimon: функциональное на питоне и динамические изменения
[13:20:18] xa4a: в этом году будут тролли
[13:20:23] xa4a: как и в прошлом
[13:20:27] xa4a: и в следующем
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[13:23:43] gigimon: :D
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[13:23:50] gigimon: никто не едет случае?
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[15:04:29] Typhon: gigimon: я и "группа товарищей"™ едем
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[15:12:15] gigimon: Typhon: слушателями или доклад?
[15:13:18] Typhon: gigimon: пока слушателем, может и на доклады разродимся
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[15:16:27] xa4a: троллями же)
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[15:40:27] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[15:47:36] Typhon: ^_^
[15:47:41] Typhon: и возмутителями спокойствия
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[20:25:29] webninja is now dnd
[20:26:06] webninja: господа!
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[20:26:49] webninja: например на сервере разбит hdd на разделы
[20:26:49] evrial is now xa
[20:27:07] webninja: /dev/sdb3 <<< тут дофига места. мне туда файлы нужно сохранять ээм как заюзать то его?
[20:27:29] webninja: STORAGE_ROOT = os.path.join('/dev/sdb3', 'storage') ?
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[20:28:25] webninja: блин как погуглить я даже хз
[20:28:32] dicos is now offline
[20:29:18] xa4a: примонтируй его
[20:29:22] xa4a: к файловой системе куда-то
[20:29:27] xa4a: он у тебя хоть отформатирован?
[20:29:30] xa4a: ты где его взял?
[20:29:37] webninja: хз был ) я просто сервер заказал
[20:29:45] webninja: зафигачил туда мини-гугл
[20:29:50] xa4a: то есть на нём данных нет?
[20:29:56] xa4a: на разделе
[20:30:03] webninja: через некоторое время смотрю чото не то. смотрю логи пишет места нет смотрю а там
[20:30:31] webninja: root@c-r041-u0075-04:/dev# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb2 30G 30G 0 100% /
tmpfs 4.0G 0 4.0G 0% /lib/init/rw
udev 4.0G 140K 4.0G 1% /dev
tmpfs 4.0G 208K 4.0G 1% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb3 1.8T 203M 1.7T 1% /home
[20:30:39] webninja: нету
[20:30:43] webninja: данных
[20:30:44] xa4a: а, ну так он у тебя в /home вмонтирован
[20:30:53] webninja: а блин
[20:31:02] xa4a: mkdir /home/hui
[20:31:05] webninja: хаха, все просто оказалось
[20:31:07] webninja: ага ) спасибо
[20:31:14] xa4a: STORAGE_ROOT = os.path.join('/home/hui/storage', 'storage') ?
[20:31:17] xa4a: ага.
[20:31:38] webninja: ну да так и сделаю )
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[20:33:47] огыешсук: В хетцзнере практикуют такую разбивку:
# df [0] (root@right-things.com)
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs 1.0T 131G 842G 14% /
udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev
tmpfs 3.2G 336K 3.2G 1% /run
/dev/disk/by-uuid/8658baa9-a78d-406b-8ae4-3038552c2998 1.0T 131G 842G 14% /
tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock
tmpfs 6.3G 350M 6.0G 6% /tmp
tmpfs 6.3G 132K 6.3G 1% /run/shm
/dev/md1 496M 54M 418M 12% /boot
/dev/md3 1.7T 309G 1.4T 19% /home

В / -- терабайтик. Хватает.
[20:34:42] webninja: норм
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[20:37:15] webninja: щаз взял амазон EC2 хочу посмотреть чо там вообще
[20:37:36] webninja: а ваще седня смотрел цены на железо в хецнере
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[20:37:53] webninja: Intel® Core™ i7-2600 Quad-Core 32 GB DDR 3 RAM 2 x 3 TB SATA 6 Gb/s HDD; 7200 rpm (Software-RAID 1)
[20:37:55] webninja: 59 евро
[20:38:33] webninja: объемы памяти раз в год удваиваются стабильно
[20:40:38] webninja: щаз еще опенс стэк есть, это ваще фантастика
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[23:18:11] bugi: Всем привет. Кто-то работал с google Real-Time Bidding системой?
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[23:28:18] gigimon: webninja: опенстэк сраное гавно
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[23:28:29] gigimon: которое нифига не работает
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[23:28:45] webninja: да ладно? откуда инфа?
[23:29:07] gigimon: я работаю с клаудами
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[23:29:22] gigimon: из опенсурс клаудов щас cloudstack лучше всех работает
[23:29:30] gigimon: на openstack каждый пилит че хочет
[23:29:51] gigimon: там есть 3 типа авторизации, там есть несоклько реализация подключаемых стораджей, только ниодна не работает
[23:30:11] gigimon: даже у компании-основателя (rackspace) он нифига не работает нормально
[23:30:14] webninja: ну все равно значит есть решения для создание облака
[23:30:20] gigimon: cloudstack, да
[23:30:28] gigimon: на нем пара облаков есть
[23:30:29] webninja: а чо еще есть?
[23:30:34] gigimon: опеннибула
[23:30:40] gigimon: но те так се, в плане развития и работы
[23:30:43] webninja: а кто то тут работал в hives
[23:30:46] gigimon: а так, смотря что тебе от клауда надо
[23:30:49] webninja: там вроде чото пилят на облаках
[23:31:09] gigimon: если надо ток виртуалки пускать, то тебе и вебморды простой хватит
[23:31:17] gigimon: или proxmox
[23:31:33] gigimon: лучшее облако у амазона
[23:31:35] gigimon: как ни крути
[23:31:54] webninja: не ) мне еще не скоро нужно будет.
[23:32:25] gigimon: от опенстека уже некоторые гиганты отказываются
[23:32:35] gigimon: т.к. за пару лет и пару миллионов баксов ничего не сделали (:
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[23:33:49] levsha: в Сколково, наверное, делали
[23:34:03] gigimon: если бы
[23:34:16] gigimon: просто нет четкого roadmap и каждый участник пилит то, что ему надо
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[23:34:25] gigimon: в итоге миллион велосипедов
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