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[15:38:54] cutwater: товарищи, а чего с логами то?
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[15:40:14] cutwater: ясно...это оказывается со вчера с часу дня уже сутки тут тишина
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[15:45:05] cutwater: то что include у них весьма примитивный
[15:45:13] cutwater: он позволяет сделать route_prefix
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[16:57:39] slav0nic: у меня о фреймворках сложилось мнение, что есть 3 типа:
- одни писаные студентами задротами, аля django, bottle, flask
- другие олдскульные программеры за 40 zope, repoze, pyramid, turbogears
- и профессура аля web2py

студенты юзают всё модное и простое, профессура пихает кучу ненужного гавна, ну и олдскул пишет такое, что чтоб писать на этом, надо убить месяц на вход + иметь опыт с чем-то из студенческого)
[17:00:11] xa4a: slav0nic: первые два типа будет точнее определить как: написанные питонистами и написанные джавистами
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[17:01:01] slav0nic: ну отчасти да) те кто за 40- прожженные энтерпрайзщики
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[17:04:21] slav0nic: plone никто не гонял? сколько оно озу жрёт?
[17:04:51] slav0nic: а то после zenoss у меня нехорошие ассоциации со всем что на zope в плане потребления ресурсов)
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[17:26:13] cutwater: а хочется что-то такое между олдскулом и простотой
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[17:26:31] cutwater: не такое монструозное, но легко расширяемое и не вызывающее блевотное чувство как расширения фласка
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[17:43:45] xa4a: cutwater: ну пиши на джанге, чего сней-то не так?
[17:43:51] xa4a: вон уже даже можно свою модель юзера делать
[17:44:08] xa4a: slav0nic: plone же - CMS. зачем он?
[17:45:39] slav0nic: ради потыкать, шибко популярен судя по к-ву плагинов и любви к нему у крупных компаний
[17:45:46] slav0nic: cnn вон юзает
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[20:11:55] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[23:14:20] slav0nic: http://forbes.ua/business/1339145-google-zaplatit-za-ukrainskij-startap-bolee-30-mln
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