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[00:14:14] Typhon: xa4a: а какже пайкон? %)
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[10:57:38] ilnurgiii: всем привет
[10:58:01] ilnurgiii: вопрос не по теме коны
[10:58:04] ilnurgiii: конфы
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[10:58:32] ilnurgiii: в JS что значит criteria = new Object();
[10:58:43] ilnurgiii: какой новый объект создается?
[10:59:01] ilnurgiii: просто объект или что это такое может быть?
[10:59:23] ilnurgiii: а дальше в коде идет criteria.LocationInformationClass = "BasicLocationInformation";
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[11:00:31] mrDoctorWho.: с каких пор js и python одно и то же?
[11:00:44] ilnurgiii: т.е.
[11:00:58] ilnurgiii: я ж написал что вопрос не по теме конфы.
[11:01:17] ilnurgiii: ну если низя тута такие вопросы задавать, то ладно
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[11:13:47] mishok13: ну тебе надо читать про обьектную систему в JS
[11:14:02] mishok13: а не пытаться выучить язык использую конференцию в качестве учебника
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[11:15:38] mishok13: конечно, есть офигенный ресурс от мозиллы, но я думаю вначале тебе будет очень тяжело там — https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript/Guide/Details_of_the_Object_Model
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[12:30:39] ilnurgiii: да ресурсы то есть. просто под руку скрипт попался, и там я эту строка не понял. хотел у знающих спросить что это. а ответить одним ответом не могут знающие.
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[12:30:48] ilnurgiii: я же не весь синтаксис у вас спросил
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[12:30:59] ilnurgiii: ну да ладно. всем откликнувшимся спасибо
[12:31:12] ilnurgiii: в принципе это везде так ))))))
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[15:51:36] gigimon: чуваки, а никто незнает случаем фреймворков для нагрузочного тестирования всего и вся? (дописать модуль чтобы можно было и т.п.).
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[16:40:20] gigimon: я думаю оно веб онли
[16:40:24] gigimon: а мне, к сожалению, надо не веб...
[16:40:35] gigimon: а сервис нагружать
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[16:59:00] Typhon: gigimon: tsung посмотри. там правда иксимиели всякие. что у тебя за приложение, кто пользователи, какие интерфейсы?
[17:00:52] gigimon: Typhon: нет приложения, переписываем просто архитектуру, хотим заюзать rabbitmq. Надо потестить как на нашей логике он будет работать
[17:01:32] gigimon: клиентов к рэбиту предполагается под 10к
[17:02:07] gigimon: на эрланге =\
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[17:02:12] gigimon: ченить питоновое б
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[17:02:24] gigimon: но наверно такого нет
[17:02:41] Typhon: 10к читателей или писателей? %)
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[17:03:00] gigimon: и писателей и читателей
[17:03:39] gigimon: предполагается, что много много клиентов будут что-то писать в рэбит, другой сервис читать из него и писать в него "ответы"
[17:04:13] gigimon: тут скорее проверка не сколько выдержит именно кролик, а проверка как хорошо он в нашу архитектуру войдет
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[17:08:16] Typhon: gigimon: и ты хочешь весь поток сообщений через кролика прогонять?
[17:08:21] gigimon: да
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[17:12:40] Typhon: gigimon: а нельзя сразу от паблшеров в потребителей гадить сообщениями разве? (олсо, пишут что в жава-клиенте есть бенчмаркинг какой-то для кролика). а так вообще я бы цунг смотрел и эмулировал писателей/читателей им
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[17:16:47] gigimon: Typhon: да тсунг хорошо, но он на эрланге
[17:17:08] gigimon: Typhon: а сразу клиентам нет, нельзя, т.к. у них не может быть белого ипа
[17:17:15] gigimon: и они могут работать за натом
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[17:18:29] Typhon: энивей, сразу думайте, как масштабировать кролика %) ну и что, что на эрланге? :) насколько я помню, сценарии работы там вообще xml'ями задаются.
[17:19:00] gigimon: ну, всю логику чтоли на xmle? ужас же (: а эрланг я незнаю и как-то пока не хочется
[17:19:18] gigimon: кролик мастер-слейв умеет + раундробин днс
[17:21:54] Typhon: а клиенты вы сами пишете? что-нибудь в духе STUN'а заимплементить может? :)
[17:22:23] xa4a: я тоже эрланка не знал, пока не попробовал tsung
[17:22:45] xa4a: а потом мне захотелось в формочки постить многострочные POST данные
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[17:23:07] xa4a: пришлось переписать как он xml парсит :\
[17:23:10] xa4a: и не пожалел :)
[17:23:18] Typhon: gigimon: олсо, можешь написать генератор xml'ей из питона
[17:23:25] Typhon: будет у тебя питоно-дсл для цунга
[17:23:36] gigimon: Typhon: клиента на питончике пишем, tsun низя
[17:24:06] gigimon: может тогда проще на питоне самому и написать нагружалку (:
[17:24:14] gigimon: stun*
[17:24:31] Typhon: а почему нельзя? задолбаешься с мультипроцессингом, например
[17:25:01] gigimon: требования заказчиков
[17:25:51] gigimon: сервис (наш) не должен быть инициатором связи с клиентом (тоже нашим, но установленого у клиента)
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[17:26:13] gigimon: у нас так сказать клиент-серверная фиговина
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[17:27:56] xa4a: клиент-серверная фиговина подразумевает, что серверу пофиг на чём клиент написан
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[17:27:57] Typhon: так в STUN'е же клиент инициирует связь
[17:29:07] gigimon: Typhon: хм, может я плохо понял, но почитаю подробнее, как устанавливается
[17:29:13] gigimon: да и tcp понадежнее как-то
[17:29:36] gigimon: xa4a: ну эм, мы предоставляем клиента написаного нами на нашем языке
[17:29:42] gigimon: причем тут пофигизм написания?
[17:29:53] gigimon: да и кролику тоже насрать откуда сообщения в него прийдут
[17:30:21] Typhon: gigimon: STUN и поверх тцп можно
[17:30:28] gigimon: погляжу тогда, спс
[17:30:46] gigimon: просто хотим от централизованной системы, перейти как-то распределенной...
[17:31:00] gigimon: пока идей кроме как amqp не нашли
[17:31:11] gigimon: распределенная по обмену сообщениями*
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[17:35:16] Typhon: мм, а какая же с кроликом распределённая? когда всё через него проходит.
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[17:40:04] gigimon: ну, сейчас у нас сделано совсем убого. Есть 1 сервер, который никак не масштабируется, писаный на пхп. К нему подключаются клиенты (python демоны линуксовые) по тсп каждый раз открывая коннект, и пересылая по нему данные (сообщения). После отправки сообщения демон закрывает коннект. Когда серверу надо отправить что-то, он открывает коннект к демону и шлет сообщение, все сообщения в xml и зашифрованы. В среднем, сейчас около 5 сообщений в минуту на каждого клиента (а их около 6к)
[17:40:14] gigimon: и вот эта часть трещит по швам (:
[17:41:48] gigimon: а кроллик, поидее, решит проблему с коннектами между сервер и демонами (клиентами), т.к. он вполне расширяем, + даст возможность сделать распределенным сервер
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[17:44:22] gigimon: по тестам на сайте кролика (и по тем что нашел), на 1 сервере с 40гигами озу он вполне 35-40к сообщений в секунду держит
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[17:59:28] mrDoctorWho.: не напомните, как питоном декодить что-то вроде %D0%A0%?
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[18:00:09] mrDoctorWho.: вспомнил
[18:00:24] mrDoctorWho.: что-то вылетело из головы
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[18:02:46] mrDoctorWho.: urllib.unquote
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[22:41:02] Tony: кто юзал bluetooth мыши? неужто все так косячно работают?
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[22:41:54] levsha: у меня bt мышь. Но bt только между мышкой и приёмником. Дальше приёмник изображает из себя usb мышь
[22:42:00] levsha: всё работает на ура
[22:43:01] Tony: у меня hidd ощущение что протокол немного не тот
[22:43:32] Tony: типа скроллом крутишь, а оно курсор в правый верхний угол уводит
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[22:59:46] Tony: похоже правда с протоколом проблема
[22:59:59] Tony: сенса дикая у мыши, делаю меньше через xset и начинается пиздец
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[23:03:02] xa4a: Tony: у меня нормально работала
[23:03:19] Tony: у меня еще мышь rapoo
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[23:04:50] xa4a: ноут леново, гента, http://static.buytheprice.com/pimages/iproduct/1035.jpg
[23:05:10] Tony: это единственная bluetooth мышь что я нашел
[23:05:18] Tony: везде обычные беспроводные
[23:05:21] Tony: радио т.е
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