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[01:21:40] py_two: все знают, что я нуб в html и веб программировании. Я не буду пытаться строить из себя, чего не представляю. Я учусь и поэтому я буду спрашивать даже самое нубское:)
[01:21:55] py_two: http://forum.htmlbook.ru/index.php?showtopic=43194
[01:22:05] py_two: уже второй день сижу не могу разрулить сие
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[01:40:44] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[08:15:25] webninja: блин
[08:15:44] webninja: а если я форму нарисовал с помощью jquery то как ее засабмитить правильно?
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[14:39:36] Ranwise: http://habrahabr.ru/post/167559/
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[14:45:23] aries.ua: саблим текст наше все.
[14:45:39] aries.ua: монстры на яве должны подохнуть
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[14:58:50] xa4a: aries.ua: а чо в саблиме такого крутого?
[14:58:54] xa4a: он даже круче вима?
[14:59:45] aries.ua: легкость и настраиваемость. А в третьей версии появятся переходы.
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[15:00:02] огыешсук: А чего -- их до сих пор не было?
[15:00:06] Ranwise: 3 версия только платная
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[15:01:10] aries.ua: так и вторая платная :)
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[15:01:42] Ranwise: ну триал типа вечный же
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[15:03:12] огыешсук: Да пофиг на платный не платный. Мы программисты же, а не школоло.
Вот то, что он нафиг никому не нужен при наличии емакса -- вот это да.
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[15:08:56] xa4a: aries.ua: а почему бы я хотел перейти с вима на саблайм?
[15:09:04] xa4a: и в каком смысле лёгкий?
[15:09:20] xa4a: и настраиваемый - круче вима или емакса?
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[15:10:48] aries.ua: зайди на сайт саблима - почитай
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[15:11:04] aries.ua: модули можно и свои слздавать - они на питоне
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[15:14:42] огыешсук: /me . o 0 (будто в виме модули на брайнфаке)
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[15:15:46] xa4a: aries.ua: в виме тоже на питоне
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[15:17:12] aries.ua: вим мне показался более тяжелым в настройке
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[15:18:40] xa4a: то есть не "лнгкость и настраиваемость", а "легкость настройки" ты имел в виду?
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[16:24:07] aries.ua: xa4a: почему выбрал саблимтексе: легкая среда (в сравнении с эклипсом, нетбинсом и прочими поделками на яве - самолет). Простые настройки и хоткеи. Достаточно дописать все что надо в двух файлах. Сами файлы в формате JSON. Удобно их хранить и восстанавливать, если надо. Много плагинов, которые написаны на питоне. Если чего-то нет - можно и самому написать. Но пока все батарейки устраивают. Есть система проектов. Чего не хватало, так это переход по функциям, вроде в тройке это будет. Еще много хороших цветовые гамм. Так как я пишу - python, javascript, xml/xsl/jsp, php, css, html - то хватает за глаза.
[16:24:39] aries.ua: ну как-то так :)
[16:25:13] aries.ua: пробовал настраивать вим и эмакс, пока вкуришь, то и охладевает запал ими пользоваться
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[16:32:33] огыешсук: СГДВ?
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[17:40:09] pytwo: Вим настолько хорош и логичен, что половину хоткеев я понял без мана. По логике нажал хоткей и опа - вим сделал то, что нужно
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[17:43:16] xa4a: запищал?
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[17:44:06] pytwo: Запищал и начал все портить потом
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[18:11:38] aries.ua: Подскажите, а как в VIMe сделать?
- подсветку для (python, JS, css, html, php)
- с левой стороны дерево навигации по проекту/директории
- закладки открытых файлов
- переход на декларацию функции/класса
(попробую снова освоить vim :) )
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[18:15:55] огыешсук: Всё кроме дерева -- встроенный функционал. Для дерева есть плагины.
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[18:22:59] xa4a: первое - set syntax=on, второе - NERDTree, третье - https://github.com/thisivan/vim-bufexplorer, четвёртое - зависит от языка
[18:23:09] xa4a: для питона хорошо работают ropevim и jedi-vim
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[18:31:14] pytwo: Всегда хотел у тебя,xa4a, спросить. Для всех яп какой плаг осуствляет автодополнение апи ?
[18:31:49] xa4a: не понял вопроса
[18:31:58] xa4a: ну там есть omnicompletion встроенный
[18:32:13] xa4a: который ищет слова в открытых буферах независимо от яп
[18:32:34] xa4a: но опыт показывает, что иногда специализированные плагины лучше справляются
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[18:33:30] pytwo: Мне встроенного по буфферам хватает. Мне именно автодополнение апи имен по всем языкам
[18:35:02] xa4a: что за апи навсех языках?
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[18:40:19] pytwo: Ну для питона список стандартных апи, для си в венде свой список
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[18:46:44] xa4a: это не задача редактора, в общем-то
[18:46:51] xa4a: такскать библиотеки апи за собой
[18:47:11] xa4a: ну и поддерживать один плагин со всеми библиотеками - геморно и малополезно
[18:47:24] xa4a: у каждого юзера же свои потребности
[18:47:30] xa4a: поэтому модульность, всё такое
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[18:51:19] pytwo: Та не либы, а словари со списком апе
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[18:51:45] pytwo: Чувствую это надо делать самому и подключать словари просто
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[18:56:56] xa4a: я так и сказал
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[19:02:02] inlanger: Всем привет. Никто не подскажет какие-нибудь сайты, где есть обзоры разных python скриптов интересных? Новости может какие… Недавно почти дописал свою очередь задач простую, потом наткнулся на python-rq и понял что мне нужен такой )
[19:02:45] xa4a: reddit.com/r/python
[19:03:11] xa4a: http://www.doughellmann.com/PyMOTW/
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[19:04:14] inlanger: вот она, рыба моей мечты :) спасибо!
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[20:15:34] gigimon: inlanger: pypi же :)
[20:15:37] gigimon: и гитхаб
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[20:16:27] xa4a: там много шума
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[21:25:59] Ranwise: http://dou.ua/lenta/articles/salary-report-dec-2012/
[21:26:48] Ranwise: python в лидерах
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