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[01:44:03] py_two: я могу тупить конечно сильно, но спросить мне больше не у кого: Итак, есть django-registration. 1) мне нужно расширить модель регистрации. 2) мне нужны профиля пользователей. Стоит ли связываться с django-profile ?
[01:44:26] py_two: только что погуглил основательно, но так и не понял что именно лучше крутить
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[02:20:02] py_two: хорошая новость: завтра приезжает видяха к человеку, который будет ее перепаивать. Совсем скоро я днем не буду флудить в конфе:)
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[03:43:35] xa4a: линукс решето! http://lwn.net/Articles/539884/
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[10:33:30] metall1c: всем привет, никто не запускал джанго-проект через apache + mod_wsgi + virtualenv ?
[10:34:12] metall1c: вобщем-то запустил, почти все работает, единственный косяк, при попытке открытия админки получаю сообщение: DatabaseError, unable to open database file
[10:34:18] metall1c: БД у меня sqlite
[10:34:43] metall1c: сам сайт открывается, т.е. БД видит, путь к файлу прописан правильно, права на файл БД 666
[10:35:24] metall1c: я так понимаю ошибка при попытке записи, падает при запросе INSERT INTO "django_session"....
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[10:42:43] metall1c: попробовал записать из самого сайта, тоже самое, т.е. получается проблема только при записи
[10:42:54] metall1c: на чтение БД работает, на запись нет, что может быть?
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[10:46:52] metall1c: блин, еще на каталог, где лежит БД нужны права на запись
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[12:11:14] slav0nic: metall1c, апач - архаизм
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[14:45:19] metall1c: slav0nic: а что надо? нгинкс?
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[14:56:25] metall1c: slav0nic: уже есть куча виртуалхостов с php и мод rewrite, поэтому ставить отдельно нгинкс под несколько джанго-проектов смысла не вижу
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[15:13:23] MAVr is now — Уважаемые пассажиры! Убедительно просим вас не аплодировать экипажу до полной остановки самолета. Спасибо!
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[15:21:03] gigimon: metall1c: у тебя голый апач без нгинкса?
[15:21:04] gigimon: ужс
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[15:22:18] metall1c: gigimon: да, а замчем мне нгинкс? у меня если суммарная посещаемость всех виртуалхостов в пределах 1000чел/день, то нафиг мне эти городульки?
[15:22:36] gigimon: память же уменьшить
[15:22:52] metall1c: мне хватает памяти
[15:22:59] metall1c: у меня выделенный сервак, там почта и веб
[15:23:23] metall1c: и 2Гб оперативки
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[16:13:32] cutwater: mishok13: вот все хотел спросить. вы ведь пишете на фласке. как живете с тем, что его развивать Армин не хотит и на тройку очень неохотно ему его портировать
[16:14:35] mishok13: откуда сведения про то, что не хочет развивать?
[16:14:42] mishok13: на тройку нам плевать
[16:14:53] tvorzasp: http://asvetlov.blogspot.ru/2013/02/rupycon2013.html
[16:15:21] cutwater: вот сидишь и думаешь... чего бы такое взять покрутить... webob ?
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[16:15:55] mishok13: я бы сказал, что мы гораздо больше на селери и алхимию завязаны, чем на фласк
[16:16:07] cutwater: алхимия ж на тройке работает вроде как
[16:17:13] mishok13: Светлов со своей пропагандой тройки может идти на все четыре стороны
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[16:18:38] mishok13: меня совершенно не парит что py3k поддерживается sqlalchemy
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[16:19:00] mishok13: если Майк скажет, что алхимия со следующего релиза не поддерживает 2.x — тогда будет о чем говорить
[16:19:08] cutwater: эх... если бы =)
[16:19:36] cutwater: но вообще меня больше интересует сам процесс и когда же уже 3кой станет можно пользоваться.
[16:19:37] mishok13: делать это сейчас — трата времени, busy work
[16:19:46] mishok13: дык пользуйся хоть сейчас
[16:20:00] mishok13: пирамида бежит под тройкой
[16:20:01] cutwater: ну дык речь о том что ни веркцойга ни фласка под тройку нет
[16:20:27] cutwater: webob есть
[16:20:31] cutwater: пирамида есть
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[16:21:58] mishok13: ну вот, значит есть чем пользоваться
[16:22:10] gigimon: джанга тоже вон подтягивается
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[16:22:22] cutwater: ну джангу не предлагать =)
[16:22:24] mishok13: уже пятый год подтягивается
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[16:23:08] gigimon: ну, сейчас уже даже работает
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[16:23:20] gigimon: cutwater: пирамида тогда
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[16:27:13] mishok13: кстати, вот Армин отвечает, весьма по делу: http://asvetlov.blogspot.nl/2013/02/rupycon2013.html?showComment=1361880489602#c7949237665206986209
[16:27:51] mishok13: ключевая фраза: "The standard library in many of such cases decided to just force unicode in places where they do not belong."
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[16:28:06] mishok13: это между прочим касается не только упомянутого Армином urllib
[16:28:18] mishok13: это еще и модуль os, как оказалось
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[16:28:46] mishok13: и shutil и многие другие
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[16:29:57] mishok13: в итоге появилась такая херня как os.fsencode и os.fsdecode
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[16:30:15] mishok13: getenv/getenvb !
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[16:40:20] slav0nic: что-то sublimetext такой крутой, что минуту реплейсит 1 символ в файле 200к =\
[16:40:37] gigimon: %)
[16:43:19] slav0nic: хотя может и плагины виноваты
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[16:49:35] xa4a: cutwater: а что с джангой не так?
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[17:35:49] cutwater: xa4a: ну ты же знаешь, с джангой все не так
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[17:38:32] xa4a: нет, не знаю
[17:38:43] xa4a: вот для нового проектика взял джангу, пилю по выходным
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[17:41:18] tvorzasp: о, и как она тебе?
[17:41:31] tvorzasp: мне пока пока все нравится)
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[17:44:39] cutwater: xa4a: ну как бы это уже неоднократно обсуждалось, что чтобы получить из джанги нормальный фреймворк надо выкинуть шаблонизатор, ORM, с ними админку, и останется от джанги роутинг запросов.
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[17:46:23] xa4a: это нормальный фпеймворк для чего?
[17:46:26] slav0nic: и заменить админку на ... ?
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[17:47:29] xa4a: cutwater: у меня пока нет хайлоада, да и вообще клиентов :) поэтому скорость шаблонов меня вполне устраивает
[17:47:47] xa4a: ORM тоже, т.к. запросов сложных не будет, скорее всего
[17:47:51] xa4a: по крайней мере из джанги
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[17:48:55] xa4a: ну и у меня никакой асинхронности пока не планируется
[17:49:08] xa4a: и джанга отличненько так работает
[17:49:09] xa4a: чяднт?
[17:49:11] slav0nic: в дажнге уже давно шаблоны кешируются
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[19:49:57] stavniak1: Всем привет ! Можно нубский вопрос задать ? )
[19:50:26] xa4a: прочитай топик
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[20:00:42] stavniak1: http://dumpz.org/456605/ По ссылке код ) вычисляет наибольший общий делитель. мне не понятно там одно у цикла while условие выхода a и b = 0. после выхода из цикла функция print распечатывает сумму a+b. собственно вопрос почему вывод 10 ведь должна быть сумма двух нолей ?? сори если глупость спрашиваю =)
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[20:08:12] xa4a: "у цикла while условие выхода a и b = 0" - не верно
[20:09:33] xa4a: у цикла while условие выхода: not (a!=0 and b !=0), по правилу де-моргана его можно переписать как a == 0 or b == 0
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[20:13:36] stavniak1: спасибо. тоесть можно заменить while a!=0 and b!=0 на while a==0 or b==0 ??
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[20:22:03] xa4a: stavniak1: нет
[20:22:14] xa4a: это противоположные выражения
[20:22:25] xa4a: while not (условие выхода)
[20:22:37] xa4a: условие выхода == a == 0 or b == 0
[20:22:59] xa4a: not (условие выхода) == not (a == 0 or b == 0) == a!=0 and b !=0
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[20:27:13] stavniak1: большое спасибо. запись while not (a==0 or b==0) мне кажется понятней
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