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[01:58:03] gigimon: xa4a: чет фигня этот ghost.py, вообще не открывает ниодин сайт
[01:58:08] gigimon: а спиннер тож непонятный
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[02:11:51] gigimon: ghost.py глючный :(
[02:12:02] gigimon: спиннер непонятно как достать js и выполнить агрх
[02:25:38] gigimon: хотя может ipython мешает
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[02:35:23] xa4a: gigimon: ни того, ни другого не видел ни разу
[02:35:52] gigimon: да
[02:35:56] gigimon: вся проблема в ipython
[02:36:03] gigimon: запустил из скрипта, все ок
[02:36:09] gigimon: збс
[02:36:17] gigimon: правда тяжело будет дебажить
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[17:56:10] Singularity: шо
[17:56:16] Singularity: deisler:
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[18:09:16] xa4a: gigimon: winpdb
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[18:11:02] gigimon: xa4a: что я на маке буду делать с winpdb? :)
[18:11:12] gigimon: та деюажить думаю можно и пайчармом, попробую
[18:11:15] xa4a: читать документацию
[18:11:25] xa4a: а потом использовать
[18:11:53] xa4a: winpdb, внезапно, кроссплатформенный встраиваемый дебагер
[18:11:56] gigimon: Platform independent, and tested on Ubuntu Gutsy and Windows XP.
[18:12:06] xa4a: его можно даже из-под mod_wsgi запускать
[18:12:06] gigimon: ну попробуем
[18:12:09] gigimon: клево
[18:12:13] gigimon: но название)
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[18:12:33] gigimon: ну, пока до дебага не дошел
[18:12:38] gigimon: вот надо будет, буду искать
[18:12:44] gigimon: xa4a: ты дебаг тулзы используешь?
[18:12:52] xa4a: gigimon: в основном ipdb
[18:12:57] xa4a: и много логирования
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[18:16:58] Singularity: я вот Vimium осваиваю
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[18:18:28] xa4a: вроде, уже модно Vrome
[18:18:50] xa4a: но это всё говно, по сравнению с pentadactyl :(
[18:20:12] Singularity: pentadactyl чем он так хорош?
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[18:21:18] Typhon: > he most effective debugging tool is still careful thought, coupled with judiciously placed print statements
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[18:28:20] Singularity: лень ставить лисицу
[18:28:38] Singularity: но мне и мне и вимиум нормЪ
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[18:33:40] gigimon: извращенцы вимовые (:
[18:34:51] pytwo: Я дебагом занииался в венде
[18:35:08] pytwo: В линуксе хз как оно
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[19:28:25] bliznezz: Украина получила кириллический домен.Укр
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[19:32:01] Singularity: пітон.укр
[19:32:03] Singularity: ?
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[19:33:58] Singularity: http://python.su/forum/topic/20836/
[19:34:13] Singularity: посмотрите что фишхук пишет
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[19:38:26] xa4a: Singularity: человек с железным терпением. И проницательностью
[19:38:35] xa4a: в отличии от ТС
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[19:41:14] Singularity: xa4a: а ты многих знаешь лично?
[19:41:23] Singularity: с джабера и форума
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[19:41:40] xa4a: с форума вообще никого не знаю
[19:42:01] xa4a: с джабера пару человек видел
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[20:52:38] py_two: нет, принял решение начать программировать без плагинов
[20:52:47] py_two: сначала надо разобраться как оно есть на самом деле
[20:52:59] py_two: а потом уже можно применять плагины и их кастомизировать
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[21:23:35] webninja: как
[21:23:39] webninja: это без плагинов?
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[21:36:22] xa4a: он про вим, видимо
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[21:52:05] py_two: xa4a: нет, я про django
[21:52:13] py_two: вручную создать регу, восстановление пароля и тд
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[21:52:58] py_two: разобраться как оно там все работает. Просто в django-reg как раз такой функционал и реазизован. Но со старта подключить и работать с ним невозможно т.к нет экспы кодинга
[21:53:13] py_two: а экспу можно поднять самостоятельно разработав такой функционал
[21:53:20] py_two: вот и вся сказка про белого бычка
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[22:00:27] Singularity: py_two:ну хз
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[23:24:55] Singularity: gentoo это ппц
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[23:28:13] xa4a: чего?
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[23:50:31] webninja: ну хз проще разобраться гг
[23:50:34] webninja: хотя когда как
[23:50:41] webninja: бесит когда что-то отваливается при апдейте
[23:52:45] Singularity: mybox etc # time emerge gnome (326 packages have been emerged) real 520m44.532s user 339m21.144s sys 146m22.337s
[23:54:17] py_two: Singularity: а DE и будут отваливаться
[23:54:24] py_two: Singularity: на всех дистрибах
[23:54:31] xa4a: py_two: не туда
[23:54:35] xa4a: Singularity: один раз - можно
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[23:57:02] py_two: xa4a: та че там не туда ? На генте всякие де когда использовал - они при апдейтах частенько сыпались
[23:58:11] py_two: xa4a: потому что де тянут мильярд зависимостей, где-то какашка всеравно проберется
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[23:59:13] xa4a: py_two: про отваливаться не тому участнику
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