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[16:31:20] snowy_white: привет. Я написал небольшой сервер\клиент и столкнулся сослудующей проблемой:
есть строчка sock.send("Текст сообщения")
если я сам пишу текст, то он уходит без проблем
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[16:32:22] snowy_white: если содержимое я меняю на переменную, из которой берётся текст сообщения, то получаю соощение об ошибке:
TypeError: must be string or buffer, not builtin_function_or_method
[16:32:55] xa4a: snowy_white: а ты читал, что оно тебе пишет?
[16:33:18] snowy_white: пишет что должна быть стринговая переменная так?
[16:33:23] xa4a: не только
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[16:33:33] xa4a: ещё not builtin_function_or_method
[16:33:44] snowy_white: с этого момента поподробнее
[16:33:53] xa4a: TypeError: must be string or buffer, not builtin_function_or_method
[16:34:01] xa4a: это про аргумент
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[16:36:30] snowy_white: по правде сказать, не понимаю о каких встроенных функциях и методах идёт речь
[16:37:31] xa4a: !python builtin functions
[16:37:39] xa4a: !g python builtin functions
[16:37:49] xa4a: это встроенные функции
[16:38:02] xa4a: иксепшн говорит, что ты передал встроенную функцию вместо строки
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[16:40:48] snowy_white: я делаю так, a = input .. sock.send(a). Как тогда лучше будет передать введённое с клавы сообщение sock.send?
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[16:41:38] xa4a: hint: у тебя в "a" не то, что ты думаешь
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[16:45:30] snowy_white: сделал так:
a = raw_input(' ') - всё ушло нормально. Спасибо

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[16:51:16] snowy_white: парни. Подскажите ещё, есть ли литература о том, как можно создавать формы с обьектами? Примерно как в Delphi?
[16:51:31] snowy_white: только на питон само собой
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[16:52:19] xa4a: !g pyside
[16:52:47] xa4a: только э..
[16:52:56] xa4a: как в делфи вряд ли выйдет
[16:53:20] xa4a: ну есть графическая среда для рисования Qt форм: QtCreatror
[16:53:31] xa4a: но она из коробки с питоном не связана
[16:53:38] xa4a: так что есть выбор:
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[16:53:50] xa4a: а) писать ручками код, как в ссылке выше в разделе Tutorials
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[16:54:16] xa4a: б) рисовать форму в qtcreator, экспортировать её в *.qml формате и приделывать к ней функциональность на питоне
[16:54:48] snowy_white: попробую и так и так
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[17:07:24] emese: еще есть pygtk и glade/gazpacho
[17:08:52] snowy_white: glade тоже ведь на либах gtk. А тут недавно пеерц главный у гномов заявил что не будет больше гном под линь разрабатывать
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[17:09:04] snowy_white: так что если ли смысл? Под Qt тока затачивать
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[17:09:31] xa4a: snowy_white: а зачем формочки десктопные писать, кстати?
[17:09:35] xa4a: напиши веб-приложение
[17:09:43] xa4a: и запускай сервер локальный на питоне же
[17:09:53] xa4a: и показывай в нативном браузере, какой у юзера есть
[17:10:13] snowy_white: да у меня глаза разбегаются))) Я не думал что питон настолько мощьный и гибкий язык
[17:10:22] snowy_white: что можно и так и сяк)
[17:10:37] emese: ну гном и гтк это разные вещи же
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[17:15:56] snowy_white: я думаю, что бы дальше глубоко изучить питон и его сетевые штучки дрючки, создать клиент для xmpp
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[20:33:53] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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