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[15:20:05] XTerm: Подскажите, естьли для пайтона либы для удобного юзанья диапазонов ИП-адресов: 192.168.0.0/16; 192.168.0.5-80; 192.168.*.60; etc ?
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[15:29:15] XTerm: ммм, судя из описания это либа конвертирования _единичных_ адресов в разные нотации. Она мне выдаст список адресов изходя из заданных условий? (см выше)
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[15:38:37] Typhon: в 3ем, емнип в стдлибе что-то было даже для работы с айпи адресами и прочим
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[16:14:19] ink08: подскажите, может есть библиотека, которая делает lookup ASN и выдает все её префиксы?
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[16:42:28] slav0nic: вопрос по distutils, есть ли необхзодимость включать test_suite='runtests.runtests' в пакет ? То есть runtests есть в пакете, но в яйце его не будет
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[17:52:00] _lorien: slav0nic: не понял вопрос, но что мешает проверить? %)
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[17:53:39] slav0nic: проехали, причём тут проверить
просто я не знаю помимо запуска setup.py test когда ещё может понадобиться test_suite
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[18:44:31] py_two: xa4a: прив. чем ты в вим пользуешься для комментирования тегов django ?
[18:44:43] xa4a: ничеи
[18:44:44] xa4a: м
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[18:45:00] py_two: xa4a: вручную комментируешь ?
[18:45:13] xa4a: да
[18:45:25] xa4a: с учётом того, что я джангу пишу раз в месяц в выходные - в самый раз
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[19:05:24] _lorien: у кого-нить есть опенсорц, юзайщий граб? ссылки собираю
[19:06:19] ink08: мм, открой любой линукс :)
[19:06:32] ink08: там есть /boot/grub :)
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[19:06:49] _lorien: не
[19:06:56] _lorien: http://grablib.org - эта хрень
[19:07:38] ink08: https://bitbucket.org/lorien/grab - хм :)
[19:07:42] ink08: это твоё чтоли :)
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[19:08:41] _lorien: да
[19:08:52] _lorien: мне нужны ссылки, щас переделываю http://grablib.org сайт
[19:09:16] ink08: попробуй на гитхабе поиском
[19:09:27] ink08: что-то типа import grab
[19:09:56] _lorien: ну ка ща гляну
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[19:11:41] _lorien: чё-то там нету поиска точного по строке
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[19:13:43] _lorien: фиг чё найдешь там с его smart поиском
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[19:15:55] xa4a: вот бы был какой-то сервис, который бы умел искать по всем опен-сорсным исходникам. .. oh wait..
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[19:25:14] gigimon: xa4a: вы ж его закрыли
[19:25:53] _lorien: представляю размер индекса этого сервиса
[19:25:57] _lorien: и ресусры на его поддержание
[19:26:20] _lorien: каждый день сотни васей пупкиных открывают новый гавнопроект на бакете и гитхабе
[19:26:29] _lorien: и ещё сотня делают форки, чтобы никогда в них не коммитнуть
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[19:27:51] xa4a: _lorien: винты, вощем-та дешёвые же
[19:28:07] _lorien: ага, память тоже дешёвая и cpu дешёвые
[19:28:09] xa4a: и его все любили.. почти как ридер :(
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[19:28:15] _lorien: осталось купить несколько серверов и в путь
[19:28:19] _lorien: трафик тоже дешёвый
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[19:28:40] _lorien: надо каждый день качать много инфы, парсить её
[19:28:48] _lorien: индекс держать в ram
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[19:29:11] _lorien: самое забавное, что проекты изменяются
[19:29:14] _lorien: надо учитывать изменения
[19:29:14] xa4a: я думаю, что по меркам гугла совсем незначительные ресурсы
[19:29:55] _lorien: если у тебя есть ресурсы гугла, то можно так думать, а иначе какой смысл в таких раздумьях?
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[19:31:24] _lorien: короче, считаю, это очень сложная задача - парсить хотя бы битбакет + гитхаб
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[19:31:57] xa4a: ну как бы да, у меня есть представления о ресурсах гугла)
[19:32:31] _lorien: что у него за ресурсы? цифры в студию
[19:32:57] xa4a: цифры нельзя
[19:33:18] _lorien: давай, что можно
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[19:33:35] xa4a: но в некоторых сервисах, когда свободного места остаётся пара петабайт - это уже emergency
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[19:34:27] _lorien: что за сервисы? гугловые?
[19:34:54] xa4a: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/177267/we_are_the_google_site_reliability_team_we_make/c82vigm
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[19:35:20] _lorien: да по ссылкам можно мильон найти постов
[19:35:24] _lorien: интересен разговор с живым человеком
[19:36:23] xa4a: цифры конкретно говорят, что нельзя рассказывать, кроме того, что уже опубликовано
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[19:37:06] _lorien: я думал, ты к гугл имеешь отношение, потому и спрашивал
[19:37:16] _lorien: ссылочки гуглить я умею, эт. неинтересно
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[19:40:15] Singularity: _lorien: давай поиграем
[19:40:40] _lorien: в что?
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[19:46:09] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
[19:46:16] _lorien: пони снова с нами
[19:46:30] slav0nic: сервак ребутил)
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[19:51:05] slav0nic: о теперь 8 ядер)
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[19:59:00] slav0nic: чёт не пойму нахрена джанговский компайлмесседж и запуск тестов вывод плюёт в stderr
[19:59:16] _lorien: через logging видимо
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[20:29:27] Singularity: Тупой вопрос: зачем джангисту уметь писать Makefile?
[20:29:53] _lorien: тупой ответ: чтобы не задавать тупых вопросов
[20:30:15] _lorien: /me ходит на курсы троллинга
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[20:30:56] _lorien: я вот не умею писать make файлы, хотя джангу юзаю много лет
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[20:31:30] _lorien: иногда юзают make для задач автоматизации, всякие частые действия выносят в makefile, но я юзаю для этого fabric
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[20:33:19] xa4a: Singularity: чтобы быть разносторонне развитым человеком
[20:33:25] xa4a: чтобы писать на джанге мейкфайлы не нужны
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[20:35:03] Singularity: зачем быть разносторонне развитым человеком?
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[20:39:02] _lorien: видимо, singularity ходит в параллельный поток в школу троллинга
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[20:39:28] Singularity: http://south.aeracode.org/ это типа юмор что у них там ошибки на странице?
[20:40:09] xa4a: Singularity: да, это юмор
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[20:42:40] _lorien: всё нормально, это славоник сервер перезагружает
[20:43:57] Singularity: _lorien: какой славоник?
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[20:44:52] _lorien: хз, трётся тут тип какой-то с таким ником
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[21:13:58] Singularity: _lorien:я знаю что тебе надо
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[21:26:14] Singularity: а руские переводят часы?
[21:26:29] Singularity: будет три часа разницы?
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[21:55:58] _lorien: у меня щас час ночи почти
[21:56:07] _lorien: но я хз, переводим ли мы часы
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