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[00:26:15] py_two: >>> from django.views.generic.simple import direct_to_template
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: No module named simple
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[00:26:59] py_two: я перешел на gentoo x86_64. Версия django видимо другая и данные функции перенесли
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File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/registration/backends/default/urls.py" in <module>
22. from django.views.generic.simple import direct_to_template
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[00:33:54] py_two: интересно, а чего это пип поставил Django Version: 1.5.1 ?
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[13:25:06] bazileus: подскажите
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[13:26:40] bazileus: почему когда я подключаюсь по нттп через прокси (urllib2)
у меня сниффер показывает один полный путь запроса
[13:26:49] bazileus: а когда без прокси, то другой
[13:27:07] _lorien: покажи тот и другой пути
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[13:28:28] bazileus: http://site.ru/cgi-bin/script - без прокси
http://site.ruhttp://site.ru/cgi-bin/script - с прокси
[13:28:59] bazileus: это здесь мне вчера посоветовали траффик сниффать
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[13:33:06] bazileus: _lorien: это может прокси добавлять?
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[13:34:32] _lorien: какой прокси, ты когда траф снифаешь, ты снимаешь исходящий трафик, который до прокси не дошёл ещё
[13:34:42] _lorien: чё-то в коде не так сделал, наверное
[13:34:49] bazileus: смотри
[13:35:03] bazileus: я посылаю пост-запрос серверу
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[13:35:09] bazileus: без прокси один ответ
[13:35:13] bazileus: с прокси другой
[13:35:24] bazileus: а через браузер с прокси все как надо
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[13:35:59] _lorien: ну значит код кривой у тебя
[13:36:07] _lorien: раз через браузер всё ок
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[13:36:45] bazileus: readybrowser = urllib2.build_opener(proxy_support, proxy_auth_handler, urllib2.HTTPCookieProcessor(cookie)) - с прокси
readybrowser = urllib2.build_opener(urllib2.HTTPCookieProcessor(cookie)) - без прокси
[13:36:52] bazileus: вот и всё различие
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[15:24:50] aries.ua: Народ, вот хочу посоветоваться, что выбрать. Стоит задача разработать продукт. Продукт внутренний, т.е много чего будет обмениваться через JSON (API) я бы даже сказал что более 99%. Админка не нужна. Т.е будет своя реализация пользователей/групп/прав доступа. Фронтенд будет только на ExtJS. Т.е модуль темплейтов не нужен. Основа получение данных GET/POST. Обработка в базе данных.

Вот думаю какой фреймворк взять. Вроде хорошо знаю джангу. Но монстра юзать в таком проекте сомнительно. Фласк... Но как-то они долго тянут с третьим питом. Что еще есть?
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[15:26:48] RanWise: bottle c 3 вроде работает
[15:27:08] aries.ua: Да, хотелось бы что нить скоростное, как и фласк
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[15:28:58] emese: RanWise: хотел тебя насчет ХПИ спросить
если не ХПИ, то что — КПИ?
энивей, на каком языке в ХПИ преподают? учиться тяжело? насчет заочки что-нибудь знаешь?
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[15:29:19] RanWise: emese: в хпи вроде на русском
[15:29:22] RanWise: я там не учился
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[15:29:35] RanWise: кпи это в киеве там подороже
[15:29:53] emese: экзамены по украинскому надо сдавать, не знаешь?
ну да
а где учился?
[15:30:02] RanWise: на мой взгляд в хпи учиться легко и многое решается за деньги
[15:30:10] RanWise: я учился в хнуре
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[15:30:41] RanWise: да зно нужно но если иностранцы то вроде там же сдается экзамен на русском
[15:30:46] RanWise: так же и в хнуре
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[15:31:00] emese: хнур — лучше?
где-то видел рейтинг, хпи на третьем месте по Украине
[15:31:03] emese: неплохо
[15:31:09] emese: съездить к вам, чтоле
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[15:31:29] RanWise: на 3 месте так там много сотрудников и универ довольно старый
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[15:31:58] RanWise: у меня там сестра учится говорит что не сильно хорошо учат, бывает что учат то что устарело давно
[15:32:04] RanWise: типа пхп 4 лабы
[15:32:14] emese: хотяб не паскаль
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[15:32:22] RanWise: она на прогера что то такое
[15:32:38] emese: как на твой взгляд первая пятерка украинских технических вузов выглядит?
[15:32:54] RanWise: та даж незнаю
[15:32:57] emese: как у вас с международными дипломами кстати? если это не наебка
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[15:33:24] RanWise: я вот слышал что в некоторые фирмы тупо не берут студентов из хпи
[15:33:26] aries.ua: а что скажете по поводу web.py?
[15:33:34] emese: интересно, почему?
[15:33:34] RanWise: типа сиклума или глобал лоджика
[15:33:41] emese: слишком умные?
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[15:33:46] RanWise: может знают уровень обучения
[15:33:49] emese: хм
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[15:34:49] RanWise: кпи не плох
[15:35:01] emese: какие есть варианты еще, вообще
может я что-то упустил
кпи, киевский имени Шевченко, хпи, хнур
львовская политехника, еще что-нибудь?
[15:35:02] RanWise: вообще смотря что тебя интересует
[15:35:06] emese: кпи — дороговато
[15:35:24] emese: заочка по компьютер сайнс
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[15:35:53] emese: но если не прям щас поступать, а через год-два, может пойдет
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[15:36:07] RanWise: я незнаю как там заочка, есть харьковфорум может там создать тему по поводу хпи хнуре
[15:36:20] RanWise: вообще на дипломы щас не сильно смотрят
[15:36:22] emese: надо попробовать
вообще только начал ресерчить
[15:36:45] emese: да я знаю
все равно нужно иметь
за бугор там
или хотя бы в ту же украину (я россиянин)
[15:36:47] RanWise: тут многие соображающие студенты с комп наук работают со 2х курсом и бывает даже не доучиваются
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[15:37:28] RanWise: ну в хнуре точно можно сдать экзамены по русскому и другим, атестаты егэ незнаю подходят или нет
[15:38:16] RanWise: на комп науки и програмную инженерию нужны математика анг и укр язык вместо анг можно физику
[15:38:33] emese: лучше бы вместо укр можно было физику :)
[15:38:35] RanWise: математика не ниже 140 балов по нашему зно
[15:38:38] emese: кстати английский это годно
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[15:38:48] emese: всего сколько? 200?
[15:38:51] RanWise: да
[15:39:00] emese: те 70 по стобальной
[15:39:04] RanWise: подкурсы есть но это если тут живеш
[15:39:04] emese: не так плохо
[15:39:12] emese: что такое подкурсы?
[15:39:23] emese: подготовительные курсы видимо
[15:39:27] RanWise: ага
[15:39:38] RanWise: физака математика укр язык
[15:39:50] emese: блин украинский это печально
[15:40:01] emese: красивый язык, но учить долго
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[15:40:28] emese: ладно, спасибо
[15:40:35] emese: еще поресерчу
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[15:41:19] RanWise: хнуре лет 60 назад от хпи отделился
[15:42:02] RanWise: радиотехнический факультет а потом через какое то время открыли тут компьютерные специальности
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[15:43:16] emese: возможно это мало чего значит, сейчас
в новосибирске факультету комп. сайнса десяти лет, тем не менее он на шестом месте по стране
[15:43:24] emese: *десяти лет нет
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[15:43:54] RanWise: да толку если самому не заниматся все равно где учится
[15:44:17] RanWise: в вузах долго программы обновляются
[15:44:19] emese: это верно, конечно
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[15:44:41] RanWise: ленивые преподы
[15:44:56] emese: тем не менее, я не знаю толковых спецов, которые нигде не учились
[15:44:58] RanWise: выучить что то новое, методички переписать
[15:45:07] emese: а зачем оно им?
[15:45:21] RanWise: обычно преподы в универах мало работали с реальными проектами
[15:45:34] RanWise: тем более новое преподам и не нужно да
[15:45:42] RanWise: и так денег платят
[15:46:00] emese: ну у них своя профессия, у нас своя
много им у вас платят?
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[15:46:26] RanWise: преподам? там зависит от званий
[15:46:44] RanWise: вообще ставка вроде около 300 баксов
[15:46:50] emese: мда
[15:46:59] RanWise: желание новое учить убивает)
[15:47:11] RanWise: те что доценты у тех может 400-500
[15:47:21] emese: этого хату хоть снять хватит?
[15:47:23] RanWise: обычно с сессий кормятся но это по разного
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[15:47:28] emese: бугага
[15:47:37] RanWise: с заочником, дипломы курсовые
[15:47:53] RanWise: у некоторых по 1,5 ставки
[15:48:11] RanWise: да работают в основном пенсионеры
[15:48:20] RanWise: у них квартиры есть
[15:48:24] emese: печально у вас дела, у нас впрочем не многим лучше
[15:48:37] emese: ну это чтобы уровень цен узнать вопрос был скорее
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[15:48:50] RanWise: так это еще программирование, грубо говоря кроме компа и времения ничего и не нужно
[15:49:01] RanWise: а если какая нибудь железячная наука
[15:49:10] emese: ага, не то что химикам всяким
[15:49:18] emese: ну или так, да
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[15:49:34] RanWise: ну шаурма 2-3 бакса стоит)))
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[15:50:12] emese: по моим наблюдениям шаурма везде одинаково стоит
[15:50:26] emese: как ни странно
[15:50:29] RanWise: мясо разное:))
[15:50:34] emese: это возможно
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[15:53:42] RanWise: так что рейтинги это дело такое
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[15:54:07] RanWise: вроде большой рейтинг а преподы попадутся которым денег нужно или ниче незнаю
[15:54:11] RanWise: знают
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[16:01:15] emese: может это и хорошо
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[16:01:22] emese: я все сам умею, мне корка нужна только
[16:01:47] RanWise: в россии нету вузов для заочки?
[16:01:55] emese: в россии призыв есть
[16:02:13] emese: я уклоняюсь, поэтому не вариант
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[17:18:09] obivan: чем заменить такой код?
[17:18:10] obivan: http://pastebin.com/UVRz8kNh
[17:18:36] obivan: приходится делать так для каждого топика
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