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[00:31:04] singularity: fuzzy: а как поправить то что в консоле темы выглядят плохо ? в gvim норм
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[00:35:03] fuzzy: можно проверять, в консоли ли ты, и если да - загружать другую тему
[00:35:41] singularity: а как заставить перечитать конфиг ?
[00:36:25] singularity: а то я выхожу и опять захожу что-бы зделать :BundleInstall
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[00:38:22] singularity: Похоже для YouCompleteMe надо vim свежее ...
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[00:42:47] fuzzy: :source
[00:42:47] proto_21h: всем привет
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[00:43:07] singularity: proto_21h: всем привет
[00:43:17] singularity: просто привет...
[00:43:30] proto_21h: почему?
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[00:43:52] proto_21h: у мну особенный привет
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[00:45:11] singularity: proto_21h: первый раз в этой конференции ?
[00:45:12] proto_21h: тут все продвинутые программисты?
[00:45:14] proto_21h: да
[00:45:36] proto_21h: я решил изучать питон, вот искал единомышленников
[00:45:44] proto_21h: нашел эту конфу
[00:45:57] singularity: Похоже я один хэлловордер тут :)
[00:46:13] proto_21h: почему?)
[00:46:32] proto_21h: я тоже такой же) если имеешь ввиду что тока начал питонить)
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[00:52:08] proto_21h: singularity: тут?
[00:52:14] singularity: lf
[00:52:19] singularity: да
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[00:53:26] proto_21h: singularity: ты начинающий кодер на питоне?
[00:54:12] singularity: proto_21h: тип того. Иногда бывают припадки сесть что-то поковырять
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[00:54:54] proto_21h: ну прогу для вывода"хелло ворд" писал?)
[00:55:11] singularity: да
[00:55:57] proto_21h: а какой источник обучения юзаешь?
[00:56:07] proto_21h: книгу , сайт какой может?
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[01:00:08] singularity: proto_21h: гуглю на каждый чих
[01:00:24] singularity: скиенну вот хочу прочитать...
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[01:00:59] singularity: http://goo.gl/fdZGR
[01:01:43] proto_21h: могу предложить вариант
[01:02:15] singularity: давай
[01:02:29] proto_21h: совсем для начинающих http://www.codecademy.com/
[01:02:36] singularity: не
[01:02:40] proto_21h: пробовал?
[01:02:46] proto_21h: но есть и бука
[01:03:00] singularity: я слишком ленив
[01:03:03] proto_21h: Лутца
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[01:05:54] proto_21h: смарел литературу на рутрекере?
[01:07:17] proto_21h: http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3958297
[01:07:33] singularity: да
[01:07:44] singularity: да
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[01:09:47] singularity: время которое надо мне для прочтения всех книг что я хочу прочитать больше длительности жизни среднестатистического человека
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[01:15:10] gigimon: чуваки
[01:15:16] gigimon: зачем вам книги?
[01:15:20] gigimon: осильте туториал
[01:15:34] gigimon: затем потратьте часик и просмотрите стандартную библиотеку
[01:15:52] gigimon: затем начните писать что-то свое и юзайте стандартную либу + гугл
[01:15:57] gigimon: + чтение чужого кода
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[01:21:21] proto_21h: думаешь это эффективно?
[01:23:21] singularity: да
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[01:25:55] singularity: Python , Ruby, html5, css3, js
[01:26:43] singularity: proto_21h:
[01:26:54] singularity: ты это умеешь ?
[01:27:00] singularity: аа
[01:27:03] proto_21h: je
[01:27:15] singularity: оу
[01:27:16] proto_21h: перваые два тока изучаю)
[01:27:17] singularity: ?
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[01:29:51] proto_21h: ну питон и руби на стадии изучения, пока на них ничего не пишу
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[01:30:36] proto_21h: а так сайты простенькие делаю с использованием хтм, цсс и сркиптов
[01:31:42] proto_21h: питон выбралкак язык универсальный
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[01:42:30] singularity: ммм
[01:43:03] singularity: да этим можно даже пользоваться :yes:
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[02:11:58] singularity: я что неправильно выхожу з вима? :wq
[02:13:17] singularity: а пох
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[14:50:32] py_two: QQ ZQ
[14:50:52] py_two: QQ = :wa, ZQ = qa
[14:51:12] proto_21h: бот?
[14:51:15] py_two: *qq and zq
[14:51:27] proto_21h: что это?
[14:51:59] py_two: singularity: это тебе альтернативный ответ на вопрос: я что неправильно выхожу з вима? :wq
[14:52:40] fuzzy: ;x
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[14:56:20] singularity: все ок
[14:56:56] singularity: proto_21h: команды Vim
[14:57:39] proto_21h: яс
[14:57:45] py_two: н
[14:57:53] proto_21h: ты под никсами сидишь?
[14:58:11] proto_21h: кстати
[14:58:27] proto_21h: есть ли разница для программирования какую ось юзать
[14:58:29] proto_21h: ?
[14:58:38] singularity: lf
[14:58:40] singularity: да
[14:58:43] proto_21h: прсто заметил многие программисты под никсами кодят
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[15:00:50] fuzzy: proto_21h: под юникс большее разнообразие средств разработки
[15:01:08] fuzzy: но чтобы начать питон это не слишком существенно
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[15:03:21] proto_21h: спс
[15:04:13] proto_21h: fuzzy: давно на пайтоне пишешь?
[15:04:28] py_two: fuzzy: дело тут в другом. под вендой неудобно с питоном работать
[15:04:44] fuzzy: py_two: чем не удобно?
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[15:04:52] singularity: кодировки
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[15:05:16] fuzzy: что с ними?
[15:05:29] fuzzy: в юниксах те же самые кодировки
[15:05:33] singularity: некоторые пакеты надо компилять
[15:05:42] fuzzy: в юниксе тоже
[15:05:46] singularity: ну да
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[15:06:02] singularity: в венде просто не так удобно и прозрачно
[15:06:04] py_two: fuzzy: многие модули к питону в сорсах лежат, их нужно собирать вручную. Для этого требуется ставить gcc и танцевать с бубном.
[15:06:21] fuzzy: py_two: рили? а кроме gcc под виндой нет компиляторов?
[15:06:45] py_two: fuzzy: модули не собирутся вижуал студио
[15:06:45] fuzzy: я считал, что сорцы модулей под виндой собирать так же, как и в юниксе: python setup.py build какой-то
[15:06:52] singularity: MinGW
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[15:07:00] fuzzy: а он уже найдёт нужный компилятор и сделает как надо
[15:07:12] fuzzy: proto_21h: под юникс проще поставить компилятор
[15:07:18] py_two: fuzzy: под вендой там все через клоаку
[15:07:25] fuzzy: но опять же, если ты не видишь пока разницы, то для тебя её нет
[15:07:52] fuzzy: использовать юникс только потому что "все крутые спецы" используют его - не надо
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[15:08:27] singularity: "и сделает как надо " <- да конечно
[15:08:28] singularity: почему ?
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[15:09:45] RanWise: proto_21h: на виртуалки может поставить линукс, выучить основные команды
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[15:10:51] proto_21h: ну у меня есть не большой опыт пользователя фряхи....но как кодер я там ничего не юзал..ни компилил и т.д
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[15:25:26] singularity: http://www.mrdoob.com/projects/chromeexperiments/google-gravity/
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[15:26:19] proto_21h: 0_o
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[16:39:37] singularity: ^WR
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[16:52:44] singularity: что за хрень выше ?
[16:53:00] singularity: я хочу табами рулить а там такое ?
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[17:14:47] singularity: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Vim_visual_mode_block_change.gif это как называется ?
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[17:22:20] fuzzy: block visual mode - ^V
[17:22:33] fuzzy: потом I - вставит текст во всех строках
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[17:33:54] singularity: а это просто :)
[17:34:22] mironich: Привет всем, не кто случаем не в курсе где качнуть чистую винду (RTM) версию, XP.
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[17:36:54] singularity: на оффсайте
[17:37:04] singularity: а xp хз
[17:37:41] fuzzy: а зачем хр?
[17:37:45] fuzzy: семёрка вон же
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[17:40:19] mironich: Комп очень древний. Ну и ключ я на XP взял уже. Если даже в 7 аеро и.т.д поотрубать думаеца всеравно поболее XP будет рес-сов кушать.
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[17:43:31] singularity: http://www.microsoft.com/uk-ua/download/details.aspx?id=1231
[17:43:37] singularity: ты не искал
[17:44:28] singularity: а нет
[17:44:31] singularity: не то
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[17:52:56] singularity: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=33656
[17:53:08] singularity: оно ? 650 мб
[17:54:43] mironich: Сча гляну. Вот кст. мд5 нужного образа 44143210b620491eb1d21efc0b1a630a
[17:55:01] mironich: Но везде где он лежит или ссылки битые или сидовнету.
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[17:57:28] mironich: Вроде оно... Но я не понял утилиту для валидации где запускать... На виртуалке с пиратской вин Оо.
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