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[00:37:26] AlexZenon: http://www.flickr.com/new/ 50 обещали, кажется.
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[02:54:06] singularity: AlexZenon: спасибо
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[02:57:03] singularity: как в джанге сгенерировать роуты по имеющимся url ?
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[03:05:05] fuzzy: singularity: {% url %}?
[03:05:17] fuzzy: from django.core.urlresolvers import reverse
[03:05:26] fuzzy: (это я по памяти написал)
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[03:05:47] singularity: нет, например я написал кучу функций в views
[03:05:55] singularity: и что бы
[03:06:31] singularity: названия фунции было за URI
[03:07:06] fuzzy: ща что?
[03:07:09] fuzzy: за что?
[03:07:13] fuzzy: ты о чём говоришь?
[03:07:53] singularity: def about(request): генерировал url(r"^about$", viesws.about , name= about)
[03:07:59] singularity: вот
[03:08:21] singularity: или это в CBV есть ?
[03:08:36] singularity: Я так и не осилил
[03:09:08] fuzzy: вряд ли
[03:09:30] fuzzy: и я не совсем уверен, что ты этого хочешь..
[03:09:36] singularity: почему ?
[03:09:45] singularity: хочу вроде :)
[03:10:23] singularity: я хочу менше писать тупого повторяющегося кода
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[03:10:42] fuzzy: может у тебя слишком тупые вьюхи?
[03:10:50] fuzzy: и ты хочешь вместо них использовать какой-то staticfiles?
[03:10:53] singularity: возможно
[03:10:56] fuzzy: а
[03:11:00] singularity: нет не статик
[03:11:17] fuzzy: там какой-то шорткат для вьюхи, которая сразу шаблон рендерит
[03:11:21] singularity: СBV вроде подходит, но у меня башка уже не варит
[03:12:00] fuzzy: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.2/ref/generic-views/#django-views-generic-simple-direct-to-template
[03:12:08] singularity: from django.shortcuts import render ?
[03:12:50] singularity: не читал что там написано
[03:12:54] singularity: но
[03:13:07] singularity: urlpatterns = patterns('django.views.generic.simple',
(r'^foo/$', 'direct_to_template', {'template': 'foo_index.html'}),
(r'^foo/(?P<id>\d+)/$', 'direct_to_template', {'template': 'foo_detail.html'}),
)
[03:13:31] singularity: 'direct_to_template <= это повторяется
[03:13:47] fuzzy: это 1.2
[03:13:49] singularity: 'foo_index.html' это можно сгенерировать по шаблону
[03:13:59] fuzzy: да, django.shortcuts.render - похоже
[03:14:05] singularity: не понял про 1.2
[03:14:16] fuzzy: ссылка - на доку версии 1.2
[03:15:01] fuzzy: а не хочешь повторять одинаковый код - генерируй динамически
[03:15:02] singularity: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.4/ref/generic-views/#django-views-generic-simple-direct-to-template
[03:15:02] fuzzy: питон же
[03:15:08] singularity: я не умею
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[03:16:26] fuzzy: views = [url('/%s' % name, direct_to_template, '%s_index.html' % name, name=name) for name in ['about', 'contact', 'hui']]
[03:16:37] fuzzy: urlpatterns = patterns('', *views)
[03:17:42] singularity: я об этом думал . а как импортировать с файла имена всех функций ?
[03:18:18] fuzzy: можешь сделать в файле список, типа SIMPLE_VIEWS = []
[03:18:27] fuzzy: и декоратор для вьюх, который их запихивает в этот список
[03:18:57] singularity: ну это руками надо делать.
[03:19:37] fuzzy: import this
[03:19:45] fuzzy: explicit is better than implicit
[03:19:46] singularity: ну и что
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[03:21:01] singularity: метаклассы нифига explicit is better than implicit
[03:22:42] singularity: тупой вопрос: .pyc это вроде как код собраный по разных файлах, да ?
[03:23:10] fuzzy: нет
[03:23:20] fuzzy: это байткод, скомпилированный из одного файла
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[03:24:54] singularity: чем байткод отличается от асамблерного кода ?
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[03:25:36] fuzzy: тем, что асемблерный код выполняется процессором (железякой), а байткод - интерпретатором
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[03:26:28] fuzzy: ладно, асемблерный код компилируется в машинный код, который выполняфется железякой
[03:27:23] singularity: байткод -> асемблерный код -> машинный код. как странно
[03:27:28] py_two: fuzzy, привет. Есть возможность собрать монолитный бинарник из py ?
[03:27:59] py_two: меня не устраивает как pyexe собирает. Мне надо монолит, чтобы его можно было обработать протектором
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[03:28:12] singularity: py_two: это с интепритатором и модулями
[03:28:15] singularity: ?

[03:28:21] fuzzy: py_two: да
[03:28:31] singularity: а тебе под линукс ?
[03:28:40] fuzzy: singularity: а что это у тебя за стрелочки?
[03:29:16] singularity: "->" -> "затем в "
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[03:29:36] fuzzy: вряд ли кто-то переводит байткод в асемблерный код
[03:29:37] singularity: * "->" == "затем в "
[03:29:41] fuzzy: и асемблерный в машинный
[03:29:55] fuzzy: насколько я понимаю асемблерный - это как отдельный ЯП
[03:29:56] singularity: ладно, асемблерный код компилируется в машинный код, который выполняфется железякой
[03:30:08] singularity: а ну мб
[03:30:26] fuzzy: в случае питона у тебя нет асемблерного кода
[03:30:31] py_two: fuzzy: как ? Мне нужно и под вин и под линукс
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[03:31:09] fuzzy: py_two: самораспаковывающийся архив
[03:31:23] fuzzy: надяжно - никак
[03:31:26] fuzzy: надёжно
[03:32:11] singularity: а в qbit torrent есть опция качать последовательно ?
[03:32:36] py_two: fuzzy: примеры есть где-то ?
[03:33:05] fuzzy: у меня нет
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[03:38:57] py_two: fuzzy: ну это типа создать криптоконтейнер в пе с барахлом, которое создало pyexe и передать на него управление ?
[03:39:24] singularity: криптоконтейнер ?
[03:39:26] fuzzy: я не знаю, что за криптоконтейнер, о котором ты говоришь
[03:40:09] singularity: вроде в upx можно пароль поставить
[03:40:37] py_two: singularity: да не пароль мне надо. Просто упаковать всё в один exe, чтобы можно было упаковать от дизасма бинарник
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[03:41:39] fuzzy: py_two: просто, ещё и бесплатно этого не сделать
[03:42:05] py_two: fuzzy: монолитный exe или упаковать ?
[03:42:06] singularity: мне кажется ты не знаеш о сx_freez
[03:42:33] fuzzy: py_two: сокрыть код
[03:42:55] py_two: fuzzy: я сам сокрою
[03:43:22] fuzzy: так а какой ещё дизасм?
[03:44:15] py_two: singularity: ага, спасибо посмотрю
[03:44:26] singularity: !g py2exe
[03:44:35] singularity: !g py2app
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[03:46:18] singularity: а кто нибудь пользуется штуками вроде pappet, chef, vargant ?

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[07:09:21] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[07:51:30] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[13:45:36] opka: всем привет! Подскажите: делаю залив файла (500 мб, multipart) на сайт через браузер - отправляется по 2-3 Мб. Если отправлять через pycurl - то по 1 мб. Где это пропатчить и как слать больштие куски?
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[14:54:12] singularity: http://django.2scoops.org/ кстати кто читал ?
[14:54:33] singularity: мне кажется очень круто
[14:55:53] slav0nic: вода водой, я даже купил когда она вышла
[14:55:57] slav0nic: очередная книжка ниочём
[14:56:38] singularity: ну хз
[14:56:51] slav0nic: там тупо поверхностно всё
[14:57:28] bliznezz: привет, slav0nic, как отдыхается?
[14:57:39] singularity: а есть что не вода?
[14:57:53] slav0nic: singularity, github.com )
[14:58:09] slav0nic: bliznezz, жена c малой у тёщи, хоть могу покодить :P
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[14:58:38] singularity: я наверно не умею github.com нормально експултирвать
[14:58:59] bliznezz: slav0nic: у меня наоборот, сегодня все приехали на все выходные.
[14:59:22] slav0nic: singularity, да посмотри код от контрибюторов самой джанги + топ 10 приложений мелких
[15:00:59] singularity: Кстати здесь есть новички ?
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[15:02:30] singularity: я хочу попробовать протестировать социальные фичи github например послать пул реквест и тд...
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[15:03:12] singularity: а почему люди так не любят grapelli &
[15:03:14] singularity: ??
[15:03:41] gigimon: много вопросов у тебя не по теме канала
[15:04:01] singularity: jr
[15:04:08] slav0nic: по-тому что голубой цвет близок гейропейцам %)
[15:04:09] singularity: больше не буду
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[15:04:20] slav0nic: я грапелли не юзаю
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[15:04:58] slav0nic: а так, оно для заказчика может быть более приятным чем скучный дефолт
[15:04:58] singularity: на форуме пару раз вместо грапели джанго-сьют советуют
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[15:09:08] singularity: а какие есть аналоги south ?
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[15:27:59] gigimon: singularity: а зачем тебе аналоги?
[15:28:28] singularity: хочу посмотреть
[15:29:25] singularity: обычно для каждой приблужы по 3-4 варианты
[15:31:47] slav0nic: django-evolution
[15:33:06] slav0nic: и nashvegas
только соуз аля стандарт
[15:33:13] nickname: почему в мск такой дорогой инет для юрлиц?
[15:35:09] singularity: так всегда
[15:35:26] singularity: вы ведь его будете нагружать 24*7
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[19:25:16] Magister Yoda: Можно ли выполнить ЖабаСкрипт на странице, средствами Python?
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[19:32:19] mishok13: да, например selenium
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[19:35:34] singularity: ты лучше посмотри что он делает
[19:35:42] singularity: с дебагером
[19:35:50] Magister Yoda: mishok13: Как мне поможет элемент таблицы Менделеева?
[19:36:28] singularity: !g python selenium
[19:37:20] Magister Yoda: singularity: да, я уже нашёл) просто пошутил... Он эмулирует или управляет лисой?
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[19:38:41] singularity: скорей эмулирует
[19:39:10] singularity: Magister Yoda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AugQn3SdvxY
[19:39:30] singularity: ты ведь парсиш что-то ?
[19:39:39] Magister Yoda: singularity: ноуп...
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[19:49:57] fuzzy: icfpc, кстати, если кто-то пропустил
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[19:54:17] singularity: а кто будет участвовать?
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[20:29:21] Magister Yoda: mishok13: я не могу его поставить... selenium. Возможно проблема в том, что я Виндоузятник...
[20:30:28] Magister Yoda: http://pastebin.com/dUiA0CZ8 ...
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[20:38:11] mishok13: ну я тебя за ручку водить не буду
[20:38:18] mishok13: селениум у нас прекрасно и на винде бежал
[20:39:22] Magister Yoda: mishok13: у меня постоянно траблы возникают при установке либ из сырцов. вроде VS стоит, а всё равно ничего не собирается =(
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[20:39:52] mishok13: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/121/234/LOOK_AT_ALL_THE_FUCKS_I_GIVE.gif?1304869942
[20:40:10] Magister Yoda: круть
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