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[00:12:54] py_two: fuzzy: а какая по стандарту ширина строки кода ? И какую используешь ты ?
[00:13:08] fuzzy: стандарта питона нет
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[00:13:19] fuzzy: я использую ту, которая у меня в стайл-гайде на работе прописана - 80
[00:15:08] py_two: fuzzy: а 80 не мало ?:)
[00:15:13] fuzzy: нет
[00:15:21] fuzzy: в самый раз
[00:15:32] py_two: fuzzy: а для си тоже юзается 80 ? Или для всего и вся 80 ?
[00:16:39] fuzzy: у нас гугл-стайл-гайды
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[00:16:43] fuzzy: питон: http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/pyguide.html?showone=Line_length#Line_length
[00:16:52] fuzzy: си: http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/cppguide.xml?showone=Line_Length#Line_Length
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Each line of text in your code should be at most 80 characters
long
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[11:11:55] xryun: Мысль такая.Предположим есть функция принимающая некий аругмент.Скажем
def function(a,b):
if a>b:
print a
else:
print b
Вопрос стоит о том-какую проверку ставить первую,если известно что в 95 процентах a>b.Так сказать-вопрос чтобы избежать ненужных проверок и движений.Теоретически ведь проверку на (a>b)?
[11:13:02] Magister Yoda: xryun: а прогнать и так, и так и посмотреть время выполнения?
[11:13:30] xryun: Magister Yoda, вот чего не умею,того не умею.
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[11:14:25] xryun: У меня есть некоторые функции но до сих пор не знаю как протестировать их на скорость в различных ситуациях.Например два конкурирующих алгоритма поиска.
[11:15:21] xryun: Может средство подскажте?)
[11:15:35] Magister Yoda: xryun: ну самы простой вариант - запускаешь оба алгоритма с одинаковыми рандомными значениями и делаешь, скажем, 1000 раз каждый ну и измеряешь время =)
[11:15:52] Magister Yoda: xryun: а вообще конечно это извращение, то что я написал
[11:16:23] xryun: ну я думаю есть что то что бенчмарки(наверное так) может измерять.
[11:17:00] xryun: Преположим у меня есть нехилый такой массив данных.Вот как на нем замеры провести?
[11:17:26] Magister Yoda: xryun: есть
[11:17:47] Magister Yoda: xryun: я бы знал... :D
[11:18:03] xryun: Magister Yoda, откройте тайное знание непосвященным)
[11:18:28] Magister Yoda: xryun: Я такой же нуб, как и ты, а может даже ещё более
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[14:31:20] AlexZenon: xryun: кажется, это называется профайлер, и оно встроенное в сам Питон. :-)
[14:31:29] singularity: а как правильно очистить удалить virtualenv ?
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[16:24:44] evch26: Подскажите, как запускать веб-сервер, БД от имени их пользователей, а не от рута?
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[16:34:36] evch26: скрипт веб-сервера или системы?
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[18:38:23] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[20:16:36] singularity: вот есть какой-нибудь пакет который использует переменные типа settings.CASE и которые не описаны в документации. Вопрос: есть ли какой инструмент который может показать их список ?
[20:19:24] singularity: epydoc генерирует то что есть уже например, а grep пока ниасилил
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[20:34:24] gigimon: singularity: рекурсивный греп по проекту или поиск в pycharm тебе поможет
[20:35:06] singularity: пичаль(
[20:35:25] singularity: ну я пока epydoc помучаю
[20:37:36] gigimon: странные вещи ты желаешь
[20:41:10] singularity: почему ? я вот случайно наткнулся на пару таких настроек
[20:41:26] singularity: думаю может еще есть
[20:46:51] Magister Yoda: Проблема... Вот, например, пробую установить lxml из исходников. В итоге вываливаются ошибки http://pastebin.com/1xsAnXGm . Под Ubuntu это решалось установкой python-dev, а под Windows не знаю как быть. И в итоге многие библиотеки не могу установить из-за подобного рода ошибок. Некоторые могу конечно из бинарников установить, но не для всех они есть. Вот ещё пример - обновление matplotlib. http://pastebin.com/465UnTfE по-началу вроде даже всё нормально, а потом вываливается с ошибкой. Может есть что-то типа apt-get для Win? Вроде и VS всяких версий стоит, и всё равно ошибки падают =(
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