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[02:41:17] py_two: Magister Yoda: в венде с питоном сложно(с модулями)
[02:41:27] py_two: Magister Yoda: если есть возможность отказаться от венды - лучше отказаться
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[06:24:27] : slav0nic установил(а) тему: python.su | Сначала поищи ответ на docs.python.org | Теперь поищи в google.com | Код постить в dumpz.org | Хочешь задать вопрос - просто *задай* его! | Правила написания хорошего кода: http://➡.ws/pep8 | Логи: http://logs.python.su
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[06:38:51] py_two: Венде :)
[06:39:25] py_two: Автолополнение рулез на цианоген)
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[11:41:40] Magister Yoda: py_two: возможности нет, ибо я бывает поигрываю в игрули...
[11:42:54] Magister Yoda: py_two: а что не так с cygwin'ом? много мучений?
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[11:59:53] py_two: Magister Yoda: аааа, так ты ГЕЙмер ?:)
[12:00:06] Magister Yoda: py_two: чуть-чуть
[12:00:30] py_two: раз не пи*рас ?
[12:00:57] py_two: всё, меня сейчас порвёт. Надо идти спать:)
[12:01:21] Magister Yoda: py_two: объясни что с cygwin'ом
[12:01:33] py_two: Magister Yoda: там в том предложении акцент был на первых трех буквах и ты ответил что чуть-чуть. Объясни:)))
[12:02:01] Magister Yoda: py_two: смиЩНО!
[12:02:16] Magister Yoda: py_two: чуть-чуть геймер.
[12:02:29] py_two: Magister Yoda: да все норм с ним. Ставь и юзай:)
[12:02:55] Magister Yoda: py_two: там какие-то определённые настройки нужны ил ещё-что-то?
[12:03:50] py_two: http://s2.ipicture.ru/uploads/20130811/o5xFVSqM.jpg
[12:04:07] Magister Yoda: py_two: к чему бы это?
[12:04:10] py_two: цвета классные. Это я снимал
[12:04:51] Magister Yoda: py_two: да ты фотограф...
[12:04:55] py_two: с андроида HDR снимок
[12:05:25] py_two: Magister Yoda: я и фотограф и пейсатель и пахарь и....:)
[12:06:15] Magister Yoda: py_two: какие настройки нужны для цугвина, чтобы либы Пайтона компилились без проблем?
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[12:18:49] py_two: Magister Yoda: поставь и посмотри что да как
[12:19:49] py_two: я юзал его много лет назад, первые версии. Мне не понравилось. Сейчас он наверное вырос очень, но т.к я давно его не юзал - помочь тебе в нем не смогу.
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[17:33:28] Magister Yoda: py_two: думал - а чо я буду 10 раз всё ставить - поставил на инсталл всё из cygwin'а. Уже часа 4 ставится. Дошло до mysql-test-5.5.31-1, а уже овер 7 гб.
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[17:56:34] singularity: https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar/blob/master/debug_toolbar/models.py я не понял. а почему здесь нет моделей ?
[18:00:23] fuzzy: может потому что оно ничего в базе не хранит?
[18:10:45] Magister Yoda: эм... в cygwin'е bash, а я хз как-там что. Как называется командная строка, в которой есть sudo и пр.
[18:10:47] Magister Yoda: ?
[18:14:55] fuzzy: bash
[18:15:01] fuzzy: sudo - это программа отдельная
[18:15:06] fuzzy: независмая от шелла
[18:15:17] fuzzy: в cygwin она вряд ли есть
[18:15:28] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: я просто в юниксах не особо
[18:15:36] Magister Yoda: окей
[18:15:37] fuzzy: почитай книжку
[18:15:41] Magister Yoda: а apt-get?
[18:15:48] Magister Yoda: как его поставить?
[18:17:09] fuzzy: и apt-get вряд ли
[18:17:18] fuzzy: это специфично для дебианов
[18:17:53] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: ну дак а как поставить то апт-гет?
[18:18:42] fuzzy: хз
[18:18:51] fuzzy: в цигвине свой менеджер пакетов, вроде
[18:18:51] Magister Yoda: пичаль-точка
[18:18:58] fuzzy: кажется, даже с виндовым гуем
[18:19:04] fuzzy: но я бы лучше поставил gentoo-prefix
[18:19:10] fuzzy: там всё почти как в настоящем генту
[18:19:19] fuzzy: по крайней мере установка пакетов
[18:19:31] fuzzy: менеджер пакетов, как минимум
[18:19:35] fuzzy: может компилять не надо
[18:20:09] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: мне надо привычное для меня апт-гет - как его сделать в сугвине? никак? тогда можешь подсказать что-то конкретное для того чтобы компилить либы для пайтона под сугвином
[18:21:09] fuzzy: не могу
[18:21:28] Magister Yoda: пичаль
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[18:23:14] fuzzy: могу подсказать виртуалку
[18:23:19] fuzzy: или генту-префикс :)
[18:24:42] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: а как я тебе под виртуалкой скомпилирую бинарники для винды?
[18:25:17] fuzzy: ну, во-первых можно
[18:25:23] fuzzy: mingw ключевое слово
[18:25:29] fuzzy: yj z ,s ghjcnj rjvgbkbhjdfk lkz kbyercf
[18:25:36] fuzzy: но я бы просто компилировал для линукса
[18:25:42] fuzzy: и использовал бы их в линуксе
[18:26:54] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: мне не удобно кодить под линуксом
[18:27:10] fuzzy: почему? может проще сделать удобно под линуксом?
[18:27:17] fuzzy: чем скомпилировать под виндой
[18:27:28] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: не те ощущения...
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[18:28:05] fuzzy: ну тогда генту-префикс
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[18:29:50] Magister Yoda: что это?
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[18:31:43] singularity: fuzzy: так это место для моделей, незачем туда пихать что попало
[18:34:48] fuzzy: Magister Yoda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az1RR60s5n4
[18:34:50] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: не вижу кнопки download... :D
[18:34:57] fuzzy: я тоже :(
[18:35:07] fuzzy: но судя по видео она где-то есть)
[18:36:27] fuzzy: я его определённо как-то ставил на винду 4 года назад
[18:37:35] fuzzy: а, вот же: Windows users can find the documentation and ISO images for the Interix port of Gentoo Prefix on our mirrors <http://distfiles.gentoo.org/experimental/prefix/x86-interix/>.

[18:37:35] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/experimental/prefix/x86-interix/current/
[18:38:01] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: блин, но нашёл я раньше) просто позже скинул ссылку
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[19:50:30] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: под восьмёрой не тянет...
[19:51:19] Magister Yoda: Unsupported Windows Version! Please be aware that Microsoft SUA does not support Business/Home/Starter Editions of newer Windows Versions.
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[19:56:48] singularity: Magister Yoda: а режим совместимости там есть ? Переходи на линукс уже и не парься xD
[19:58:03] Magister Yoda: singularity: есть,, но не помог
[19:58:10] Magister Yoda: сейчас узнаем что такое SUA
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[19:59:15] Magister Yoda: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35512 узнал... качаем...
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[20:18:09] Magister Yoda: Что-то нифига не понимаю, вроде там для Win8. запускаю пишет - установите SUA через добавление или удаление компонентов Windows. Иду туда - нет там SUA =(
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[21:20:03] fuzzy: sua - это для gentoo prefix?
[21:20:56] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: нет
[21:21:10] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications
[21:21:21] fuzzy: я понял
[21:21:25] fuzzy: а для чего оно?
[21:21:42] Magister Yoda: По идее эта штука должна быть в компонентах винды, но её там нет...
[21:21:58] fuzzy: может у тебя винда не такая?
[21:22:07] fuzzy: например, у тебя какой-то хоум эдиш
[21:22:09] Magister Yoda: fuzzy: она нужна чтобы генту префикс поставить
[21:22:21] Magister Yoda: нет, у меня проф, причём лицуха
[21:23:06] fuzzy: а
[21:23:11] fuzzy: ну так это. позвони в микрософт ^_^
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